Ryan Braun's issued PED statement

[hive17]

Presented without comment. Thoughts?

Ryan Braun issues apology, details of PED use - JSOnline

 

[js0000001]

Not going to help the value of his cards.

 

[nyc3]

Had he issued this last year instead of trying to destroy a person doing their job he would be on my list of good guys. Sadly this is because MLB had proof and he knew it. This "apology" is a farce and anyone who buys it is a moron.

 

[A_Pharis]

I like that he takes full responsibility. I hate that he took so long to do it - especially after all he had already said.

That said - I understand what he means by telling himself he did nothing wrong for so long that he actually started to believe it. I've never done it, but I know that's something that can happen.

 

[A_Pharis]

Had he issued this last year instead of trying to destroy a person doing their job he would be on my list of good guys. Sadly this is because MLB had proof and he knew it. This "apology" is a farce and anyone who buys it is a moron.

Of course this is damage control - but that doesn't make it all BS.

 

[P_Manning 18]

He is only taking full responsibility because he was caught. If the MLB didn't have so much on him.... he never would have changed his tune.

 

[nyc3]

Of course this is damage control - but that doesn't make it all BS.

Apologizing after someone has proof in my opinion makes him full of it. So he is covering his rear, he really isnt sorry. He is sorry he got caught and if they had no solid proof he would still be talking trash.

 

[hive17]

He is only taking full responsibility because he was caught. If the MLB didn't have so much on him.... he never would have changed his tune.

I would like MLB to verify that they never showed him any of their evidence. If that's true, it moves the needle slightly for me.

The only thing I like about this statement is that it basically ties up the storyline. All questions have basically been answered. He can get boo'd for the rest of his career, but the issue is basically settled; that's good for the rest of the Milwaukee organization and players.

 

[js0000001]

I would like MLB to verify that they never showed him any of their evidence. If that's true, it moves the needle slightly for me.

The only thing I like about this statement is that it basically ties up the storyline. All questions have basically been answered. He can get boo'd for the rest of his career, but the issue is basically settled; that's good for the rest of the Milwaukee organization and players.

So you think he is telling the truth now?

 

[nyc3]

 

[oddballer]

And I still do not believe him. Not a bit.

Testosterone creams and lozenges could not provide as much of a boost of T/E ratio that he reportedly tested positive for.

He says these things because they sound less harsh to the average couch potato fan who's only knowledge of PEDs is that of an XL pizza.

Athletes are not going to use a cream and lozenge without using an injectable testosterone. It would not be worth it. And any PED-pushing "doctor" would never recommend a cream/lozenge cycle because these guys are pros.

It is all nonsense. These bigtime athletes who use PEDs are using injectables, with creams and lozenges, as well as post-cycle anti-estrogen regimens. Unless we are all supposed to sit here and pretend to be naive children, we need a real admission.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen ... and Jose Canseco is STILL TO THIS DAY the only honest athlete when it comes to PEDs in the clubhouse.

If Ryan Braun was only using creams and lozenges, then Barry Bonds was using flaxseed oil.

**** with half-truths and half-baked excuses.

 

[Pine Tar]

I read the statement and first off let me say dude had a great writer. And he should have apologized little bit more to the guy threw under the bus. And welcome the lawsuit that will follow, I'm sure.

But the most thing the statement I thought it lacked was it should have said at the end.

"For all the things mentioned above and for my actions I talk full responsibly. And this is why I'm will be retiring from Baseball effective immediately".


Anyhing short of that is a joke to all of Baseball and It's fans.

 

[oddballer]

It's like a drug addict saying "oh I did cocaine but I only smoked it I never injected it!" You know, because that makes it better.

"Oh I did testosterone, but I only rubbed it on my knees and sucked on a lollipop flavored lozenge, I never injected it into my butt cheeks!"

facepalming all day to these rationalizations and half-truths. I could care less if these guys get caught. The only thing that ticks me off is that they keep lying after being caught.

 

[jbhofmann]

He probably should have apologized for calling Dino an anti-Semite (ESPN, Yahoo Sports).

 

[James52411]

I'm with [MENTION=10603]oddballer[/MENTION] in thinking that he is still not telling the entire truth. His story has the benefit of absolving him of intentionally using a PED as it implies that his use was accidental and that he learned that he had mistakenly done so after the fact. There are a lot of rumors that UMiami program has long history using PEDs. I'm inclined to believe that he's used them for quite a long time.

 

[hive17]

He probably should have apologized for calling Dino an anti-Semite (ESPN, Yahoo Sports).

Has there been a non-anonymous source that has verified that? The only thing I've seen so far is that when players that Braun supposedly called (Tulo, Votto) were asked about it, they denied it ever happening.

 

[hive17]

So you think he is telling the truth now?

Truth or not, anything else tat comes out or people go looking for will be less than a fraction of any one part of this travesty. I don't care about his actual "apology", I care that this statement adds some semblance of finality to the thing; that lessens the weight on the rest of the organization.

 

[hive17]

I read the statement and first off let me say dude had a great writer. And he should have apologized little bit more to the guy threw under the bus. And welcome the lawsuit that will follow, I'm sure.

But the most thing the statement I thought it lacked was it should have said at the end.

"For all the things mentioned above and for my actions I talk full responsibly. And this is why I'm will be retiring from Baseball effective immediately".


Anyhing short of that is a joke to all of Baseball and It's fans.

You expect all cheaters to retire from baseball? Are you waiting on a statement like that from Nelson Cruz? I'm asking honestly. Or does Braun's specific situation and "character" make a difference?

 

[Austin]

Apologies are always good, if they're sincere.

However, why did Braun wait so long?
Why didn't he apologize as soon as he accepted the suspension?

Did Braun's lawyers and PR people really have to take this long to craft Braun's apology?
Did they get focus groups to read the apology to make sure it sounds honest and sincere?

If he would have just apologized immediately, from the heart without a script obviously written and edited by PR people, fans would forgive him much easier.

 

[hive17]

If he would have just apologized immediately, from the heart without a script obviously written and edited by PR people, fans would forgive him much easier.

No they wouldn't. Braun is XXXXed 4 Life with this. That's why, for me, it doesn't even matter if he's telling the truth. It changes nothing. All it does is allow a whole bunch of people to keep battering him from a different angle. And he probably deserves it.