Scan of my biggest purchase ever.

[Topnotchsy]

As someone who has bought and sold probably double digit Santana gold refractor rcs, I firmly stand by my statements. Also, you talk about Santana having a down year (you did say for him), but was he or was he not still in the Cy Young discussion (wasn't a front runner, but he was in the discussion)?

You've sold numerous copies, so you definitely remember how the Finest Gold Ref's had dropped considerably during his final season in Minnesota.

As for his being in the Cy Young discussion, living in NY I can tell you that after his "slow" start, people were not quick to warm up to him.

My statements are not being made on the basis of a single player, but more of years and years of study of the entire market. I can give you examples that support every statement I made in the last post.

I sold 3 above $450 (2 of them over 500) in his last season with Minnesota. During the season last year, I witnessed two of them auction off and fail to get to $285... Something that never happened in all his years in Minnesota.

Which other star player left Minnesota in the prime of his career? Cuz I can't really think of one.

You sold 3 for above $450 on eBay his last year in Minnesota? I seem to recall prices in the $200-$300's on eBay (I recall this clearly as I had paid around $500 for mine, and was worried that the card might never revert back to those prices.)

I'm not referring necessarily to players who left Minnesota in the middle of their careers, not sure what you mean by that statement.

It's clear that regardless of the market, a great player who plays his whole career in one city gains a large following. Examples include Cal Ripken, Tony Gwynn, Kirby Puckett. All were great players who played for a single team, and all had great followings despite their markets. This seems to indicate that every market is large enough to sustain high prices for a player who plays there his whole career, and has close to two decades to develop a serious following.

In bigger cities though, you'll find that players who spend their entire career in one city see much higher prices. Derek Jeter is the most obvious example. Kevin Youkilis is a nice player who is building a big following in Boston where he has been his whole career. The potential in the large cities is far greater.

Another factor that large cities offer is the potential to be in more big games, and have more publicity. Arod was loved in Seattle, and was there for a long time. Still, his greatest prices on his RC's and RC Auto's have been when he got hot in NY, despite the fact that he might be the most disliked player in NY.

 

[crowhop]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":12gmrjhn]He's not going anywhere. He's from St. Paul and is practically worshiped locally. With the new stadium opening next year, the PR crisis that would ensue if he left would devastate the organization. He can name his price and the Twins have no option but to agree to it.

Craig

I disagree. And this guy sums it up pretty good why...

http://twinsgeek.blogspot.com/2009/01/signing-joe.html

He completely ignores the PR nightmare that would result. From a business perspective they have to sign him because the hit they would take if they don't outweighs the money hit they would take for signing him. Whether he is worth the money isn't relevant to 95% of Twins fans.

Craig[/quote:12gmrjhn]not so fast...

Sincerely,
John Smoltz

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":8iar30li]He's not going anywhere. He's from St. Paul and is practically worshiped locally. With the new stadium opening next year, the PR crisis that would ensue if he left would devastate the organization. He can name his price and the Twins have no option but to agree to it.

Craig

I disagree. And this guy sums it up pretty good why...

http://twinsgeek.blogspot.com/2009/01/signing-joe.html

He completely ignores the PR nightmare that would result. From a business perspective they have to sign him because the hit they would take if they don't outweighs the money hit they would take for signing him. Whether he is worth the money isn't relevant to 95% of Twins fans.

Craig

not so fast...

Sincerely,
John Smoltz[/quote:8iar30li]

Smoltz is what....67 years old? Mauer will only be 27 when his contract is up. Big difference between letting someone walk at the end of his career than one entering what is supposed to be your prime.

Craig

 

[MOFNY]

awesome card! And BTW, if anyone can PM me with some scanner info it would be greatly appreciated. I hate having to take everything out of one touches to scan them. Sorry to hijack the thread but I too am interested.

CanoScan 4400F

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What price are we talking about?

$89 dlvd on newegg