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Setting The Record Straight - PEDRO MARTINEZ

Is Pedro Martinez a Hall of Famer?


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Vagrant

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One of the two ONLY pitchers, in my opinion, that have not been connected to PED that literally were unhittable during their prime years in the late 90's and early 00's. The other is Randy Johnson.

For my money, Randy Johnson was more intimidating in the early 90's with that 100 MPH heat than he was in his late 30's when that slider really became the primary weapon. He was far more effective then, once he learned to utilize the secondary stuff, but to me the intimidation factor wasn't as strong.

With Pedro, the man had three or four pitches that could spin a batter out of the box and he was so tiny it looked ridiculous. In terms of making batters look silly and the demeanor he had on the mound, Pedro scared me to death and I wasn't even in the box.

First ballot without a second thought.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
elmalo said:
You guys really think there arent any pitchers taking steroids?

Who ever said that? Pedro is as good a candidate as any for having abused steroids, but there is no proof or hear-say at all. Until a player is officially outed, he is clean.
I agree. He is first ballot. But everyone talks about the steroid era for hitters. It is just as prevelant with pitchers.
 

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elmalo said:
sportscardtheory said:
elmalo said:
You guys really think there arent any pitchers taking steroids?

Who ever said that? Pedro is as good a candidate as any for having abused steroids, but there is no proof or hear-say at all. Until a player is officially outed, he is clean.
I agree. He is first ballot. But everyone talks about the steroid era for hitters. It is just as prevelant with pitchers.

And Bill Gates has a lot of money.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
Pedro is as good a candidate as any for having abused steroids, but there is no proof or hear-say at all. Until a player is officially outed, he is clean.

Unless you happened to be Jeff Bagwell, who have never been proven to be a juicer, yet he seems to be guilty of taking steriods in the opinion of a large number of people.
 

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cvn66 said:
sportscardtheory said:
Pedro is as good a candidate as any for having abused steroids, but there is no proof or hear-say at all. Until a player is officially outed, he is clean.

Unless you happened to be Jeff Bagwell, who have never been proven to be a juicer, yet he seems to be guilty of taking steriods in the opinion of a large number of people.

It's definitely a bit of hypocrisy. But most pitchers wouldn't bulk-up if they were abusing steroids, so it is just a lot harder to tell physically whether they MAY have used. I do think that Bagwell is getting an unfair shake seeing that he has never been officially linked to steroids.
 

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JoshHamilton said:
I don't care about stats

Pedro is the only player in major league history to bitchslap Don Zimmer

That alone makes him a first ballot HOFer

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