Shelby Miller or Michael Wacha

[shayscards79]

Despite this late season/post season run of Wacha's, I still think MIller has better stuff.

Who would you choose between the two?

 

[matfanofold]

1 hour ago I may have said Wacha...

 

[Jaypers]

Well clearly the Cards chose Option B, for purposes of the postseason.

Option A is being held captive in a dungeon.

 

[Austin]

Well clearly the Cards chose Option B, for purposes of the postseason.
Option A is being held captive in a dungeon.

They didn't choose Wacha over Miller because of talent.
Miller was having arm fatigue at the end of the season and had thrown 170+ innings, so St. Louis decided to shut him down like Strasburg.

Miller's still on the WS roster, but only to be used in an extreme emergency, like in a 25-inning game and he's the only pitching option left.

 

[Super Mario]

Wacha all day long. This kid having this kind of stuff in the bigs under a year being out of college?

His upside is retarded.

Shelby's is great too. But Wacha has a Wainwright presence. He is a beast. Shelby will be a solid number 2. Wacha is a number one ace.

 

[rookieaddict]

I feel like Wacha is safer, will give you better average results over the season. Miller has great stuff for sure, and will have flashes of greatness; but I don't think he has it between the ears to attain that next level.

 

[rookieaddict]

FWIW, I think Shelby is with a new team next year; he's their biggest chip towards a new shortstop.

 

[sigma_chi]

Wacha has only 2 pitches at this point and has yet to see the league for a second time. That is the biggest test for any young pitcher...making adjustments after the league has adjusted to you. He might be very good in time but the RedSox showed how teams will start scouting him and adjust their approach. Until he develops the curveball I think he will be average

 

[PujolsCollector]

FWIW Joe Strauss reported that Miller was held out not just because of game situations. Maybe an internal battle with that guy, probably gone very soon.

 

[sigma_chi]

FWIW Joe Strauss reported that Miller was held out not just because of game situations. Maybe an internal battle with that guy, probably gone very soon.

I honestly don't think there's anything like that going on but who knows. The kid had hit the proverbial rookie wall and his arm just looked dead late in the season. Why he was ever left on the roster for the WS is baffling to me because to listen to Matheney talk even after the 1st game there was no intentions to use he or mujica.