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Cleveland Indians Top 20 Prospects for 2009



All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change. Don’t get too worried about exact rankings at this point, especially once you get out of the top 10. Grade C+/C guys are pretty interchangeable depending on what you are looking for.



1) Carlos Santana, C, Grade B+: His future could look a lot like Victor Martinez’s past.

2) Matt LaPorta, 1B-OF, Grade B+: Plate discipline slippage after trade is a bit worrisome, but small sample and past track record keeps me confident at this point.

3) Adam Miller, RHP, Grade B: Grade A arm, Grade C health record. I think he will be better off in relief.

4) Beau Mills, 1B, Grade B: Another power bat with impressive home run upside. Not sure how they will fit all these guys into the lineup.

5) Hector Rondon, RHP, Grade B: Good arm, good stats, not sure why he isn’t ranked more highly by other sources.

6) Lonnie Chisenhall, SS, Grade B-: Promising and projectable bat. Questions about home run power and probable move to third base preclude higher grade right now.

7) Nick Weglarz, OF, Grade B-: Excellent strike zone judgment, power should continue to grow. Bad defense an issue.

8) David Huff, LHP, Grade B-: Successful finesse lefty type, Jamie Moyer upside, but could struggle like Sowers.

9) Carlos Rivero, SS, Grade B-: I buy into the second half improvement. Want to see more home run power, and faces move to third base.

10) Scott Lewis, LHP, Grade C+: Similar to Huff, perhaps not quite as much stuff.

11) Michael Brantley, OF-1B, Grade C+: Love the combination of walks, speed, and very low strikeout rate. Lack of power precludes higher grade but he should be useful.

12) Kelvin De La Cruz, LHP, Grade C+: Projectable lefty made good progress in ’08, but command still worrisome.

13) Wes Hodges, 3B, Grade C+: A solid bat, but glove at third base has slipped and he may not hit enough for first.

14) Matt McBride, C-OF, Grade C+: Very interesting bat, good plate discipline with power potential, a sleeper for ’09.

15) Luis Valbuena, 2B, Grade C+: Solid middle infielder acquired from Mariners. Some pop and speed.

16) John Meloan, RHP, Grade C+: I think he fits better in the pen than in the rotation. Needs to sharpen command.

17) Zach Putnam, RHP, Grade C+: Personal favorite from the 2008 draft. Very good arm, a good hitter too, does he start or relieve?

18) Trevor Crowe, OF, Grade C+: Made some progress after poor 2007. Could be solid fourth outfielder.

19) Rob Bryson, RHP, Grade C+: Intriguing power arm acquired in Sabathia deal. A bit under the radar but I like him.

20) Chen-Chang Lee, RHP, Grade C+: Sidearm guy signed out of Taiwan has very good stuff.

21) Cord Phelps, 2B, Grade C+: Polished Stanford product, some pop in bat, needs to improve glove.

22) Bryce Stowell, RHP, Grade C+: 2008 draftee signed too late to play, but looked great in summer ball, could be sleeper for ’09.



Others: Abner Abreu, 3B; Eric Berger, LHP; John Drennen, OF; Tim Fedroff, OF; Chris Gimenez, C; Jared Goedert, 3B; Trey Haley, RHP; T.J. House, LHP; Chuck Lofgren, LHP; Carlos Moncrief, RHP; Josh Rodriguez, INF; Jeremie Tice, 3B; Josh Tomlin, RHP; Neil Wagner, RHP; Steven Wright, RHP.



As usual, don’t sweat so much about where the Grade C+/C types rank exactly on this list. After I get past the top 10 I don’t worry so much about exact placement, since I’m trying to concentrate on the book right now. Some of the Grade C guys could be C+ in the book, and vice versa.



SYSTEM IN BRIEF

Trades have helped restore some depth to the top of the system. I love Santana and I think his breakthrough was for real. I’m not sure how they are going to jam LaPorta, Weglarz, Mills, and Hodges onto the same roster, since all of them will probably end up at first base eventually. Someone will end up as trade bait obviously. Chisenhall and Rivero are third base candidates more than shortstops in the long run but both have strong bats.

On the pitching side, you’ve got a couple of finesse lefties in Huff and Lewis ready for major league trials. Power arms Miller and Meloan can help in the pen. I prefer them as relievers due to Miller’s durability problems and Meloan’s command backslide in ’08. There are several other arms at the lower levels like Rondon and De La Cruz who have a ton of potential but will need more development time. I also like several of the 2008 pitching draftees. Putnam, Stowell, and Berger are nice college selections, but projectable high-upside high school arms like Haley and House are also interesting, if further away.

Weglarz is too low imo even though his power numbers were down.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks Sickels' list are crap? How he comes up with some of this stuff is beyond me. His one liners are just so half-ass to me.

Adam Miller #3? Come on.

Nick Weglarz #7 behind Rondon and Chisenhall? Really...
 

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NECpilgrims8 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sickels' list are crap? How he comes up with some of this stuff is beyond me. His one liners are just so half-ass to me.

Adam Miller #3? Come on.

Nick Weglarz #7 behind Rondon and Chisenhall? Really...
Why would you buy the book if you got the full reports?
 

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dchurg said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sickels' list are crap? How he comes up with some of this stuff is beyond me. His one liners are just so half-ass to me.

Adam Miller #3? Come on.

Nick Weglarz #7 behind Rondon and Chisenhall? Really...
Why would you buy the book if you got the full reports?

First off, why would I want to buy his book, especially based on his crazy rankings and half-ass desciptions?

Second, BA sells their book and their reports are much more in-depth for the top 10. Heck, they even have chats for their prospect lists. What a concept!

BP also goes into more detail and they too, sell a book.
 

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NECpilgrims8 said:
dchurg said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sickels' list are crap? How he comes up with some of this stuff is beyond me. His one liners are just so half-ass to me.

Adam Miller #3? Come on.

Nick Weglarz #7 behind Rondon and Chisenhall? Really...
Why would you buy the book if you got the full reports?

First off, why would I want to buy his book, especially based on his crazy rankings and half-ass desciptions?

Second, BA sells their book and their reports are much more in-depth for the top 10. Heck, they even have chats for their prospect lists. What a concept!

BP also goes into more detail and they too, sell a book.
Thats not the point..He has been selling his book for awhile so obviously someone is buying it. If he posted everything in the book on the net for free then no one would buy it. It has nothing to do with the quality of material..
 

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dchurg said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
dchurg said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sickels' list are crap? How he comes up with some of this stuff is beyond me. His one liners are just so half-ass to me.

Adam Miller #3? Come on.

Nick Weglarz #7 behind Rondon and Chisenhall? Really...
Why would you buy the book if you got the full reports?

First off, why would I want to buy his book, especially based on his crazy rankings and half-ass desciptions?

Second, BA sells their book and their reports are much more in-depth for the top 10. Heck, they even have chats for their prospect lists. What a concept!

BP also goes into more detail and they too, sell a book.
Thats not the point..He has been selling his book for awhile so obviously someone is buying it. If he posted everything in the book on the net for free then no one would buy it. It has nothing to do with the quality of material..

It has everything to do with the quality of the material, and yes it is exactly the point. I didn't say list everything on the website for free.

In order to sell something, you have to captivate an audience and make them want more. Personally, I think he does a pretty crappy job of it and he also makes some really awful lists to boot.

There's always some buyers for EVERY product, but that doesn't make them good products.

His site is crap. Plain and Simple. Yup, I said it. Crapola.
 

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NECpilgrims8 said:
dchurg said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
dchurg said:
NECpilgrims8 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sickels' list are crap? How he comes up with some of this stuff is beyond me. His one liners are just so half-ass to me.

Adam Miller #3? Come on.

Nick Weglarz #7 behind Rondon and Chisenhall? Really...
Why would you buy the book if you got the full reports?

First off, why would I want to buy his book, especially based on his crazy rankings and half-ass desciptions?

Second, BA sells their book and their reports are much more in-depth for the top 10. Heck, they even have chats for their prospect lists. What a concept!

BP also goes into more detail and they too, sell a book.
Thats not the point..He has been selling his book for awhile so obviously someone is buying it. If he posted everything in the book on the net for free then no one would buy it. It has nothing to do with the quality of material..

It has everything to do with the quality of the material, and yes it is exactly the point. I didn't say list everything on the website for free.

In order to sell something, you have to captivate an audience and make them want more. Personally, I think he does a pretty crappy job of it and he also makes some really awful lists to boot.

There's always some buyers for EVERY product, but that doesn't make them good products.

His site is crap. Plain and Simple. Yup, I said it. Crapola.
Why do you keep bringing it back to yourself...it has nothing to do with you individually..

I said "why would you buy his book if you got the full reports"...I wasn't talking about you individually I was just saying in general why would anyone buy anything they can get legally for free? It has nothing to do with your opinions on it. I was just stating why he only gives his one-liners...
 

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