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Since 2001 has there been an 'iconic' card...?
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George_Calfas
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How is the 89 UD set iconic? IMHO it is not but the Jr is.
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matfanofold
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Yeah, I agree...
Not to mingle over words, but I think the 89' UD set is a historic set, but the Griffey is an iconic card. If that makes sense...
Topnotchsy
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First UD set ever, first set to break to $1 barrier (if I am remembering what I've read accurately.) UD took baseball cards to a new level with that set (just compare it to 80's Topps and Donruss...) While a lot of that is forgotten, I believe it played a major role in the way people viewed the UD Griffey.
pootshwan
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The way cards are produced now I dont think there will ever be iconic cards the same way there were back in the day. Not too many people can afford those cards when they come out and the fact that they are purchased to be collectibles in the first place makes it more difficult as well. The 84 Mattingly is iconic bc the hobby was huge back then and everyone had a chance to get the card, same with the Griffy. The 52 Mantle is iconic bc a lot of people actually had that card in thier childhood, most didnt hold onto it, however it was much more a part of their childhoods than a Strasburg signed Bowman Chrome is to a lot of kids today. When I was growing up I had about 10 male cousins who were all around the same age, we all clooected cards like crazy. I have a lot of younger cousins and none of them collect cards. They all love sports, they could care less about cards. I think the hobby has changed too much to have any iconic cards.
George_Calfas
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While the set was important and new for the time the set is not iconic, IMHO. The Jr is iconic due to the player and the meteoric prices (for the time) as it dueled with the 82 TT Ripken.
Says the guy with the red variation Howard auto in his sig.
Make that the non-iconic red variation lmao!
TBTwinsFan
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I am very, very sorry, but I had too.
In all seriousness, I think that Jim Thorpe Absolute Memorabilia card that had his stitched name is pretty iconic.
The 2007 Topps Jeter/Bush/Mantle.
An iconic card has to be a base card, like the ones from previous eras. The Jeter got a ton of publicity outside of the hobby, and unlike the other higher-end cards listed above, it was sought after by more non-collectors than any other card I can remember.
An iconic card has to be a base card, like the ones from previous eras. The Jeter got a ton of publicity outside of the hobby, and unlike the other higher-end cards listed above, it was sought after by more non-collectors than any other card I can remember.
uniquebaseballcards
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Its fair to say there hasn't been a more iconic set for more than a generation, and perhaps over the last 25 years. Just about everyone looked to complete it, people purchased packs just to say they did so. It was the first time we collectors purchased by the box.
The iconic '52 Mantle was the first card of the sixth series. What's the first card of the iconic '89UD set...? Yup, you guessed it!
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matfanofold
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Along with that, I believe an iconic card has to stand the test of time, and unfortunatly for this specific card, it has been all but forgotten. Iconic, in my opinion? No...
Ghumbs
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Previous eras only had base cards.
I agree with what some of you said. In order for there to be an iconic card, you need an iconic player and we just havent had one since Pujols. So while I dont think we have one now, there are a handfull of cardsr right now that may have the potential.
mlbsalltimegreats
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I have to agree with this, infact the whole set is iconic in some way. Its been 7 years since release and the set (and that card) are still heavily collected. Almost every card posted on here has died out in some way. As for the Strasburg, way to early to call Iconic, if in 5-10 years that card is still high in demand and collected then it can be constituted as iconic, Just my thoughts.
George_Calfas
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Set collecting and box buying were not by-products of the 89UD set.
Brewer Andy
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The decrease in active collectors as elmalo pointed out is certainly a factor as well. If you went to any middle school in the country how many kids could even tell you what the Strasburg card looks like? Would the ones that could even be in agreement on which card we're talking about? When every kid collected packs for. 25¢ and iconic players only had 2 or 3 cards their rookie year it was pretty easy to know these things
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MOFNY
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I think we will have to wait awhile until players from this era are HOF eligible. I could see some cards from 2005 Bowman Chrome getting there. Braun and Verlander maybe.
I do agree with the Ruth Jumbo. GU was the dominant subset gimmick of the last 12 years.
Many of the 500 homerun club GU bats were introduced after 2001 as well.
I do agree with the Ruth Jumbo. GU was the dominant subset gimmick of the last 12 years.
Many of the 500 homerun club GU bats were introduced after 2001 as well.
1989 Upper Deck ushered in the era of "premium" modern baseball cards and the production boom of the 1990s. People remember the 1989 Griffey because it was the cornerstone chase rookie card of the era in which millions tried their hand at card collecting. Those people remember the chase for Upper Deck packs and Griffey rookies and thus the set and card are both iconic and will continue to be so because Griffey has had an all-time great HOF career.
As for the original question, I would agree that the 2010 Strasburg Bowman autograph is probably the best call because of the hype surrounding it and the fact that it brought a lot of lapsed collectors back into the hobby to try the Strasburg lottery on a few packs or boxes. However, the card will only go down in hobby history as iconic if Strasburg ultimately makes the HOF. Furthermore, it is less iconic than the Griffey because the hobby is much smaller these days.
As for the original question, I would agree that the 2010 Strasburg Bowman autograph is probably the best call because of the hype surrounding it and the fact that it brought a lot of lapsed collectors back into the hobby to try the Strasburg lottery on a few packs or boxes. However, the card will only go down in hobby history as iconic if Strasburg ultimately makes the HOF. Furthermore, it is less iconic than the Griffey because the hobby is much smaller these days.
markakis8
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I disagree, if those cards are not iconic by this point, they will never ever reach that status.
