Sixers were robbed

[phillyfan0417]

Even though it looks like they'll get some delayed justice and howard will be out for game 6, Dwight howard should have been thrown out of game 5 at the time he elbowed Dalembert. the rule on this is very clear!


A player, coach or trainer must be ejected for:
(1) A punching foul
(2) A fighting foul
(3) An elbow foul which makes contact above shoulder level


If this does happen, sixers could be wrapping this up in 6!

 

[aw00d05]

So were the Bulls...No flagrent when Miller lost a tooth had 5+ stitchies because Rondo hit him in the face...Then the refs delay it for 5 minutes so Miller has to think about the shots and he misses one...

 

[mlbsalltimegreats]

So were the Bulls...No flagrent when Miller lost a tooth had 5+ stitchies because Rondo hit him in the face...Then the refs delay it for 5 minutes so Miller has to think about the shots and he misses one...

The difference between the 2 was that Rondo's was NOT intentional as Dwight Howards Was. Miller missed the shot because he sucks!

 

[KOBEARODLT]

who cares dalembert, theo ratass and reggie evans have been shoving dwight all series, i wish he was able to slug all of them in the face.

 

[Kutzy]

So were the Bulls...No flagrent when Miller lost a tooth had 5+ stitchies because Rondo hit him in the face...Then the refs delay it for 5 minutes so Miller has to think about the shots and he misses one...

The difference between the 2 was that Rondo's was NOT intentional as Dwight Howards Was. Miller missed the shot because he sucks!

Intent isnt everything. To be honest, I think it was a flagrant. Considering the timing and the series I see why they didnt call a Flagrant. However, the fact they didnt call at least a tech on it, causes me even more issues. That was a borderline flagrant and an obvious Tech or worse. I think there was horrible officiating on that call.

 

[aw00d05]

So were the Bulls...No flagrent when Miller lost a tooth had 5+ stitchies because Rondo hit him in the face...Then the refs delay it for 5 minutes so Miller has to think about the shots and he misses one...

The difference between the 2 was that Rondo's was NOT intentional as Dwight Howards Was. Miller missed the shot because he sucks!

No because he was bleeding and missing 2 teeth...You can't say Rondo didn't mean to foul him hard on it which=intentional foul...He clearly tried to hit him in the face to make him miss the wide open shot. But who cares, Mavs moved on :grouphug:

 

[KandKCards]

Howard needs to be suspended a game for that, no question about it. Rondo also came NOWHERE near the ball and clearly wrapped his hand around Miller's head/neck, which should have been flagrant.

 

[mlbsalltimegreats]

So were the Bulls...No flagrent when Miller lost a tooth had 5+ stitchies because Rondo hit him in the face...Then the refs delay it for 5 minutes so Miller has to think about the shots and he misses one...

The difference between the 2 was that Rondo's was NOT intentional as Dwight Howards Was. Miller missed the shot because he sucks!

Intent isnt everything. To be honest, I think it was a flagrant. Considering the timing and the series I see why they didnt call a Flagrant. However, the fact they didnt call at least a tech on it, causes me even more issues. That was a borderline flagrant and an obvious Tech or worse. I think there was horrible officiating on that call.

Good point but I think where I have the Problem is when they called a clear path foul on Scalabrine when he could have let the play go and try to block the shot at the rim and then possibly hit him in the head which would have resulted in a Flagrent 1. Scalabrine wrapped him up for 2 reasons 1) so that the other player dint get an easy bucket 2) so that way Scalab dint have to swipe at the ball at the rim and possibly hit him in the head resulting in the Flagrent 1 . By the way Scalab was ahead of said player when they called the clear path foul. How does it relate to the Rondo play? It was a lose lose situation that resulted in the bulls scoring on the inbounds, when they got the ball back, and the Bulls having 2 more points than they should have. We got screwed on that play. So I am glad they let Rondo off with just a foul and not a Flagrent 1. If you watch the play Rondo was going for the ball as he was clearly looking straight at it when he swipped for it. Our normal reactions are to swipe what we are looking at and not what we are not. I could see why Rondo thought he has a chance at the ball because Brad Miller is slow so I am sure in his head he thought he had a legitimate chance at getting a finger or 2 on it. In the end I think as good/exciting as this series is the Refs have been horrible for both sides.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

There were enough bad calls both ways in the Celts/Bulls game that it all balances out. Personally, if they called a flagrant on that last call I would be quitting the NBA and that stands if I was a fan of either team. Basketball used to be a physical sport before all the new age pansy NBA rules, but to decide an overtime playoff game like that is absolutely wrong.

 

[aw00d05]

There were enough bad calls both ways in the Celts/Bulls game that it all balances out. Personally, if they called a flagrant on that last call I would be quitting the NBA and that stands if I was a fan of either team. Basketball used to be a physical sport before all the new age pansy NBA rules, but to decide an overtime playoff game like that is absolutely wrong.

Why if it was 2 minutes into the game it would be called, why not 2 seconds left, that's my problem with it, but still the Bulls blew it even if they got screwed on that.

 

[KandKCards]

There were enough bad calls both ways in the Celts/Bulls game that it all balances out. Personally, if they called a flagrant on that last call I would be quitting the NBA and that stands if I was a fan of either team. Basketball used to be a physical sport before all the new age pansy NBA rules, but to decide an overtime playoff game like that is absolutely wrong.

While I agree that the underlying problem is the inconsistent rule enforcement, it's hard to say it "evened out" when the call in question may well have determined the game.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

There were enough bad calls both ways in the Celts/Bulls game that it all balances out. Personally, if they called a flagrant on that last call I would be quitting the NBA and that stands if I was a fan of either team. Basketball used to be a physical sport before all the new age pansy NBA rules, but to decide an overtime playoff game like that is absolutely wrong.

Why if it was 2 minutes into the game it would be called, why not 2 seconds left, that's my problem with it, but still the Bulls blew it even if they got screwed on that.

Because either way it's a judgment call. Some refs would call it and some wouldn't. I think if he doesn't come out spitting blood but the hit was equally as hard we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

I agree that the bulls blew it. If you get hit in the face like that it only gets worse with time. He should have swallowed some blood and gone to the line right away to shoot.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

There were enough bad calls both ways in the Celts/Bulls game that it all balances out. Personally, if they called a flagrant on that last call I would be quitting the NBA and that stands if I was a fan of either team. Basketball used to be a physical sport before all the new age pansy NBA rules, but to decide an overtime playoff game like that is absolutely wrong.

While I agree that the underlying problem is the inconsistent rule enforcement, it's hard to say it "evened out" when the call in question may well have determined the game.

It evened out because there was a terrible blocking foul called on rondo at the end when Rose slipped on a layup. There was a terrible foul called on Tony Allen (not on the three) when Gordon got off a clean shot and fell after the ball was in the air. There was a questionable break away foul on Scalabrine. There was a questionable blocking foul on Scalabrine. If any of those don't happen then the "flagrant" at the end doesn't decide the game. Even if it was a flagrant he still misses the free throws and the bulls have 2 seconds (i think that's what they put back on the clock) to hit another shot.

 

[G $MONEY$]

Its official Dwight is suspended for game 6.

 

[KandKCards]

There were enough bad calls both ways in the Celts/Bulls game that it all balances out. Personally, if they called a flagrant on that last call I would be quitting the NBA and that stands if I was a fan of either team. Basketball used to be a physical sport before all the new age pansy NBA rules, but to decide an overtime playoff game like that is absolutely wrong.

While I agree that the underlying problem is the inconsistent rule enforcement, it's hard to say it "evened out" when the call in question may well have determined the game.

It evened out because there was a terrible blocking foul called on rondo at the end when Rose slipped on a layup. There was a terrible foul called on Tony Allen (not on the three) when Gordon got off a clean shot and fell after the ball was in the air. There was a questionable break away foul on Scalabrine. There was a questionable blocking foul on Scalabrine. If any of those don't happen then the "flagrant" at the end doesn't decide the game. Even if it was a flagrant he still misses the free throws and the bulls have 2 seconds (i think that's what they put back on the clock) to hit another shot.

Lol, I sure hope you are just using those as examples and realize how many calls the Celtics have gotten in this series.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

There were enough bad calls both ways in the Celts/Bulls game that it all balances out. Personally, if they called a flagrant on that last call I would be quitting the NBA and that stands if I was a fan of either team. Basketball used to be a physical sport before all the new age pansy NBA rules, but to decide an overtime playoff game like that is absolutely wrong.

While I agree that the underlying problem is the inconsistent rule enforcement, it's hard to say it "evened out" when the call in question may well have determined the game.

It evened out because there was a terrible blocking foul called on rondo at the end when Rose slipped on a layup. There was a terrible foul called on Tony Allen (not on the three) when Gordon got off a clean shot and fell after the ball was in the air. There was a questionable break away foul on Scalabrine. There was a questionable blocking foul on Scalabrine. If any of those don't happen then the "flagrant" at the end doesn't decide the game. Even if it was a flagrant he still misses the free throws and the bulls have 2 seconds (i think that's what they put back on the clock) to hit another shot.

Lol, I sure hope you are just using those as examples and realize how many calls the Celtics have gotten in this series.

Yea, didn't my first post say that there were bad calls on both sides? Those were just examples, but there are plenty going the other way. That's why I'm saying in the last couple minutes the officials should be a little easier on the whistles. Let the players decide the game, not the officials.

 

[ryanhoward06]

who cares dalembert, theo ratass and reggie evans have been shoving dwight all series, i wish he was able to slug all of them in the face.

So Dwight potentially causing serious damage is a good thing? Just because Dalembert, Theo, and Evans play good hard basketball doesn't give him the right to take a cheap shot.

All class.

 

[ffgameman]

Sixers might get lucky....it's possible Courtney Lee is out for the remainder of the playoffs. Might have to have surgery on his sinuses after the elbow from Howard.

I know he's a rookie but he has been a key player for the Magic in the playoffs. Ouch.

 

[BGSRCGUY]

Sixers got blown out, even without howard.