So who you got tomorrow getting in the HOF?

[ChasHawk]

We know McGwire used because he finally admitted it, half-assedly as it was.

And my answer for Sosa, Gonzalez, et al is the same as Bagwell. There must be SOME reason the writers won't vote for these guys.

They were baseball's sweethearts for years, so I doubt there's just some conspiracy by a bunch of guys who just don't like Sammy Sosa and Jeff Bagwell.

Simple explanation for Sosa - he's not eligible. LOL.

True, not till next year because he effed around and delayed his retirement.

 

[elmalo]

It will probably help if Biggio gets in first and mentions Bagwell in his speech which people expect him to do....Jeff Kent could also help. If Biggio doesn't get in next year, he will have to wait for a while......

Who says that they werent on anything?

 

[elmalo]

Just curious, but has there EVER been anything more than conjecture and mild speculation with regards to Bagwell and PED usage? If not, is this really all it takes now to vilify? Please, give me ANY players name you may think is above/beyond PED usage and I am 100% positive I can connect some dots atop of the 'he played in the PED era' tabloid header, and make the same conclusions. Point being, either we all start to respect the sancity of 'innocent until proven guilty' (exactly as you would like to be treated) or shut the Hall down all together.

The ramped speculation and damaging opinion being spewed by some here is just incredibly ignorant.

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Very calm, cool, and collective thank you!

I am just slightly saddened by some who intend to crucify on speculation. Without a doubt the same bunch who would cry the loudest if they were being found guilty based on fruitless speculation.

Is there any "proof" that Barry Bonds took PEDs? How about Gagne? Sammy Sosa? Juan Gonzalez?

Gagne admitted to using steroids during his career. Do you need more proof than that? Bonds admitted to "unknowingly" taking a cream which turned out to be laced with steroids.

And that, my friends, is leaps and bounds more incriminating than anything anybody has on Jeff Bagwell at this point.

Now, anybody is certainly entitled to their opinion; however, when their guilty verdict is based solely on conjecture, then we have a problem.

The "cream" that Bonds took was a masking agent. It wasnt a steroid. The "cream" is something that you take to pass a drug test. It raises your EPT.

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

And my answer for Sosa, Gonzalez, et al is the same as Bagwell. There must be SOME reason the writers won't vote for these guys.

They were baseball's sweethearts for years, so I doubt there's just some conspiracy by a bunch of guys who just don't like Sammy Sosa and Jeff Bagwell.

The reason is not conspiracy, it's conjecture.

 

[Pinbreaker]

Barry Larkin is the only inductee

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

Bagwell gained about 10 percent to get up over 50.

 

[AMAZIN HOF COLLECTOR]

Bagwell gained about 10 percent to get up over 50.

Within striking distance..........but the next few years are loaded with potential and will be just as hard!

 

[Pinbreaker]

The voting..

Barry Larkin 495 (86.4%)
Jack Morris 382 (66.7%)
Jeff Bagwell 321 (56.0%)
Lee Smith 290 (50.6%)
Tim Raines 279 (48.7%)
Edgar Martinez 209 (36.5%)
Alan Trammell 211 (36.8%)
Fred McGriff 137 (23.9%)
Larry Walker 131 (22.9%)
Mark McGwire 112 (19.5%)
Don Mattingly 102 (17.8%)
Dale Murphy 83 (14.5%)
Rafael Palmeiro 72 (12.6%)
Bernie Williams 55 (9.6%)
Juan Gonzalez 23 (4.0%)
Vinny Castilla 6 (1.0%)
Tim Salmon 5 (0.9%)
Bill Mueller 4 (0.7%)
Brad Radke 2 (0.3%)
Javy Lopez 1 (0.2%)
Eric Young 1 (0.2%)
Jeromy Burnitz 0
Brian Jordan 0
Terry Mulholland 0
Phil Nevin 0
Ruben Sierra 0
Tony Womack 0

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Welcome Barry!

 

[JEBJJA]

Welcome Barry!

Who the heck voted for these guys?
Vinny Castilla 6 (1.0%)
Tim Salmon 5 (0.9%)
Bill Mueller 4 (0.7%)
Brad Radke 2 (0.3%)
Javy Lopez 1 (0.2%)
Eric Young 1 (0.2%)

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