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I'll bet the long-term value for poker cards is HUGE. In 2054, they will be just clamoring for Hellmuth autos.

/sarcasm

Funny you say that, Shannon Elizabeth's auto from 2007 Poker goes for $400. Greg Raymer's 2006 $300. Joe Hachem's 2006 $300.

This is more than Heyward sterling 9.5 autos.

Not saying "invest" in poker, but the big names hold solid value as teh guys sign WAY less.

PLUS, there is a Stu Ungar 1 of 1 cut! It is the only known Ungar cut signature in the marketplace.
BG

Notice I said "long-term value". In 50 years, I would be willing to bet that these poker cards will be near worthless.


Yeah, collectibles tends to go down in value as time past. Just like the early baseball or Hockey cards. lol.
Hellmuth will worth less and less the more he accumulate WSOP bracelets. He was at 11 the last time I check, his cards will drop in 50 years when he'll be at 25+. Good point.

Baseball has a rich history and is a slice of Americana, that is why the prices rise with time. You really think that anyone will give a shat about Phil Hellmuth or any other poker player of the past in 50 years? I doubt it. I'm not trying to be a downer, I'm simply pointing out that I believe the long-term potential for poker cards is grim because there is not much history involved with poker. Who was the best poker player of 1875? 1925? 1950? 1975? 1985? Who the hell knows and who cares.
 

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here's my QUAD from last set -

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I'd pick up that Orel H.!


very cool quad

I also would like the Orel
 

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sportscardtheory said:
huntah said:
sportscardtheory said:
razorent said:
sportscardtheory said:
I'll bet the long-term value for poker cards is HUGE. In 2054, they will be just clamoring for Hellmuth autos.

/sarcasm

Funny you say that, Shannon Elizabeth's auto from 2007 Poker goes for $400. Greg Raymer's 2006 $300. Joe Hachem's 2006 $300.

This is more than Heyward sterling 9.5 autos.

Not saying "invest" in poker, but the big names hold solid value as teh guys sign WAY less.

PLUS, there is a Stu Ungar 1 of 1 cut! It is the only known Ungar cut signature in the marketplace.
BG

Notice I said "long-term value". In 50 years, I would be willing to bet that these poker cards will be near worthless.


Yeah, collectibles tends to go down in value as time past. Just like the early baseball or Hockey cards. lol.
Hellmuth will worth less and less the more he accumulate WSOP bracelets. He was at 11 the last time I check, his cards will drop in 50 years when he'll be at 25+. Good point.

Baseball has a rich history and is a slice of Americana, that is why the prices rise with time. You really think that anyone will give a shat about Phil Hellmuth or any other poker player of the past in 50 years? I doubt it. I'm not trying to be a downer, I'm simply pointing out that I believe the long-term potential for poker cards is grim because there is not much history involved with poker. Who was the best poker player of 1875? 1925? 1950? 1975? 1985? Who the hell knows and who cares.

History of poker goes back to 1973 with the first WSOP main event. They were 10 paying 10,000$ at that first tournament.
Today they are more than 6,000 people to pay that amount to have a shot at the bracelet. I can name you every single winner since than and in 50 years I will be able to name you 1973-2060 if I'm still alive. 1973 to date is a pretty short history compare with baseball, that's why.

It's history in the making. You would probably be the type of person laghing of those collecting basabell cards back in the early 1900's.
 

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huntah said:
sportscardtheory said:
huntah said:
sportscardtheory said:
razorent said:
[quote="sportscardtheory":2kquedgn]I'll bet the long-term value for poker cards is HUGE. In 2054, they will be just clamoring for Hellmuth autos.

/sarcasm

Funny you say that, Shannon Elizabeth's auto from 2007 Poker goes for $400. Greg Raymer's 2006 $300. Joe Hachem's 2006 $300.

This is more than Heyward sterling 9.5 autos.

Not saying "invest" in poker, but the big names hold solid value as teh guys sign WAY less.

PLUS, there is a Stu Ungar 1 of 1 cut! It is the only known Ungar cut signature in the marketplace.
BG

Notice I said "long-term value". In 50 years, I would be willing to bet that these poker cards will be near worthless.


Yeah, collectibles tends to go down in value as time past. Just like the early baseball or Hockey cards. lol.
Hellmuth will worth less and less the more he accumulate WSOP bracelets. He was at 11 the last time I check, his cards will drop in 50 years when he'll be at 25+. Good point.

Baseball has a rich history and is a slice of Americana, that is why the prices rise with time. You really think that anyone will give a shat about Phil Hellmuth or any other poker player of the past in 50 years? I doubt it. I'm not trying to be a downer, I'm simply pointing out that I believe the long-term potential for poker cards is grim because there is not much history involved with poker. Who was the best poker player of 1875? 1925? 1950? 1975? 1985? Who the hell knows and who cares.

History of poker goes back to 1973 with the first WSOP main event. They were 10 paying 10,000$ at that first tournament.
Today they are more than 6,000 people to pay that amount to have a shot at the bracelet. I can name you every single winner since than and in 50 years I will be able to name you 1973-2060 if I'm still alive. 1973 to date is a pretty short history compare with baseball, that's why.

It's history in the making. You would probably be the type of person laghing of those collecting basabell cards back in the early 1900's.[/quote:2kquedgn]

I don't laugh at any collectible. I'm not laughing at poker cards. I'm saying that I don't think the market will raise or maintain their value in the future. It's only my opinion.
 

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And heaven forbid if somebody should want to collect for the joy of collecting rather than trying to flip them 50 years down the road...even though the value will hold for the big names, especially since poker has been steadily increasing in popularity.

Stop spreading the Razor hate.
 

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And heaven forbid if somebody should want to collect for the joy of collecting rather than trying to flip them 50 years down the road...even though the value will hold for the big names, especially since poker has been steadily increasing in popularity.

Stop spreading the Razor hate.
Good point Magnet. This is actually the first Razor product I've seen that I like and would consider buying. That Johnny is pretty sweet.
 

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Stop spreading the Razor hate.

I didn't even realize these were Razor cards until Brian responded to my post, so you fail on that front. I'm NOT saying anything other than that I don't believe the value will sustain or ever rise in the distant future for poker cards, no more no less. I'm not talking about their collectibility or asking why people collect them. Of course they are collectible and everyone is allowed to collect what they want. That was not my point or my intent to imply otherwise.
 

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Here's from last set also...the impossible cards to get :

Todd Brunson in red ink variation :
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Some Shannon Elizabeth's :
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sportscardtheory said:
razorent said:
sportscardtheory said:
I'll bet the long-term value for poker cards is HUGE. In 2054, they will be just clamoring for Hellmuth autos.

/sarcasm

Funny you say that, Shannon Elizabeth's auto from 2007 Poker goes for $400. Greg Raymer's 2006 $300. Joe Hachem's 2006 $300.

This is more than Heyward sterling 9.5 autos.

Not saying "invest" in poker, but the big names hold solid value as teh guys sign WAY less.

PLUS, there is a Stu Ungar 1 of 1 cut! It is the only known Ungar cut signature in the marketplace.
BG

Notice I said "long-term value". In 50 years, I would be willing to bet that these poker cards will be near worthless.

I wouldnt be sure that poker is "that" much less desirable than anything outisde the 4 major sports. For that matter, ask the multitudes that purchased new sports products 1988-1997. They got crushed on almost everything.

Its all supply and demand. I think rodeo cards in the right quantity may perform favorably to some mainstream sports.
Its all who, when, were and how many.... supply vs. demand.

BG
 

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Hey I bought all my card playing friends autos of "their guys" and they take them with them at the table for luck. Hey how about a Wild Bill Hickok cut auto for his dead mans hand! He was around before Cobb and Ruth etc...
 

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Hey I bought all my card playing friends autos of "their guys" and they take them with them at the table for luck. Hey how about a Wild Bill Hickok cut auto for his dead mans hand! He was around before Cobb and Ruth etc...
That's pretty cool. I might have to pick up an auto, throw it in a one touch, and take it with me to my weekly poker league night.

A Wild Bill cut auto would be pretty awesome if it could be done.

It might also be a cool idea if there were cards from the actual games inserted, maybe inlaid in a regular size trading card with a clear plastic window (similar to what A&G and Mayo did with their printing plates, only of course with a bigger window). Even getting some of those cards signed would be a great idea. I don't know how that would work with licensing and whatnot with the WSOP though.
 

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I have a case coming in. Not sure what to do with it.

Box it out or just sell the case
 

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sportscardtheory said:
I'll bet the long-term value for poker cards is HUGE. In 2011, they will be just clamoring for Hellmuth autos.

/sarcasm

They might be soon if some guy he rips up and down finally takes him out! :lol:

What a jerk! And I hear he's like that all the time and it's not just on TV.

Cool product!
 

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All In Cards said:
I have a case coming in. Not sure what to do with it.

Box it out or just sell the case

From what I know of this market, I believe it would be a very good value/box ratio. There's a lot of valuable card in there.
Chan, Brunson, WSOP satellite ticket, Stu Ungar, Hellmuth, Raymer, printing plates, parallels, etc...

To me it can't be a loser to break and flip. I'll probably break a case or 2 on this forum upon receipt. Maybe that will help you decide what to do with yours. :D
 

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Well while we wait for the release I'll post a few more scans from the past!

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