Starling Castro: Accused of Assault

[Titans74]

First I'm hearing of this. Interesting to see what comes of it.

 

[James52411]

I hope this isn't true, primarily for both their sakes. I really like Castro as a player and would hate to have to sell most of my nice autographs because he turns out to be a scumbag.

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

Where was the other woman during all of this?

 

[ChasHawk]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...are-confident-these-allegations-are-baseless/

We are aware of certain allegations that have been made against our client, Starlin Castro. We have thoroughly investigated this matter, and we are confident that these allegations are baseless. Given the sensitive nature of this matter, we cannot comment any further.

 

[ChasHawk]

Also, no opinion here until the full story comes to light, but why does it just say a "police report was filed"? There are no formal charges filed at this point.

 

[Sjrmn91]

"Black out" or "unconscious" it doesn't matter. If she was not in a state of mind to fully consent to whatever actions they took, it is rape. Not necessarily "right" but that's how it is. It'll depend specifically on the jurisdiction and how the statutes are written, but that's the general consensus today. Now, whether or not there is evidence of either, nobody but those investigating the case, the woman, and Castro know. If it was in fact rape, I hope he is prosecuted justly. If it was not, I hope she is hit with a defamation of character suit.

 

[notjomommasclint]

First I'm hearing of this. Interesting to see what comes of it.

it was sexual assault... starlin came of it.

 

[miguelcabrera]

hmmmm weird you sure this wasnt big ben?

 

[A_Pharis]

"Black out" or "unconscious" it doesn't matter. If she was not in a state of mind to fully consent to whatever actions they took, it is rape. Not necessarily "right" but that's how it is. It'll depend specifically on the jurisdiction and how the statutes are written, but that's the general consensus today. Now, whether or not there is evidence of either, nobody but those investigating the case, the woman, and Castro know. If it was in fact rape, I hope he is prosecuted justly. If it was not, I hope she is hit with a defamation of character suit.

I've known plenty of girls who got slobbering drunk, gave it up and took the walk of shame the next day. That's what alcohol does.

 

[lisu]

"Black out" or "unconscious" it doesn't matter. If she was not in a state of mind to fully consent to whatever actions they took, it is rape. Not necessarily "right" but that's how it is. It'll depend specifically on the jurisdiction and how the statutes are written, but that's the general consensus today. Now, whether or not there is evidence of either, nobody but those investigating the case, the woman, and Castro know. If it was in fact rape, I hope he is prosecuted justly. If it was not, I hope she is hit with a defamation of character suit.

I've known plenty of girls who got slobbering drunk, gave it up and took the walk of shame the next day. That's what alcohol does.

It doesn't make it right though, and if they had every right to make a complaint if they felt they were taken advantage of when they were severely impaired. I didn't read the article, but I'm just saying that as a woman - I wouldn't like it and the law would be on my side if I could prove it.

 

[A_Pharis]

"Black out" or "unconscious" it doesn't matter. If she was not in a state of mind to fully consent to whatever actions they took, it is rape. Not necessarily "right" but that's how it is. It'll depend specifically on the jurisdiction and how the statutes are written, but that's the general consensus today. Now, whether or not there is evidence of either, nobody but those investigating the case, the woman, and Castro know. If it was in fact rape, I hope he is prosecuted justly. If it was not, I hope she is hit with a defamation of character suit.

I've known plenty of girls who got slobbering drunk, gave it up and took the walk of shame the next day. That's what alcohol does.

It doesn't make it right though, and if they had every right to make a complaint if they felt they were taken advantage of when they were severely impaired. I didn't read the article, but I'm just saying that as a woman - I wouldn't like it and the law would be on my side if I could prove it.

I'm not saying it's right in any way. I'm just saying that in certain circumstances, it's really hard to say WHAT she said when she was heavily intoxicated. ALl I know is is that I've known woman who've gone through this and accepted that they made bad decisions when they were drunk. Of course, they didn't have it happen with a sports star.

 

[matchpenalty]

Those in Chicago area. Hop much media play is this getting there? Is it wall to wall Castro rape talk.

 

[lisu]

[quote="A_Pharis":35p65xl3]

"Black out" or "unconscious" it doesn't matter. If she was not in a state of mind to fully consent to whatever actions they took, it is rape. Not necessarily "right" but that's how it is. It'll depend specifically on the jurisdiction and how the statutes are written, but that's the general consensus today. Now, whether or not there is evidence of either, nobody but those investigating the case, the woman, and Castro know. If it was in fact rape, I hope he is prosecuted justly. If it was not, I hope she is hit with a defamation of character suit.

I've known plenty of girls who got slobbering drunk, gave it up and took the walk of shame the next day. That's what alcohol does.

It doesn't make it right though, and if they had every right to make a complaint if they felt they were taken advantage of when they were severely impaired. I didn't read the article, but I'm just saying that as a woman - I wouldn't like it and the law would be on my side if I could prove it.

I'm not saying it's right in any way. I'm just saying that in certain circumstances, it's really hard to say WHAT she said when she was heavily intoxicated. ALl I know is is that I've known woman who've gone through this and accepted that they made bad decisions when they were drunk. Of course, they didn't have it happen with a sports star.[/quote:35p65xl3]

That is why it is considered rape when a woman is heavily intoxicated. It is against the law to have sex with someone who is unable to consent if they are that heavily intoxicated. You might know some women who have gone through this but it doesn't matter whether it is a sports star or not. It is still rape. See De Anza baseball team rape. That was horrible, and she was so intoxicated that she passed out. It just is in the news more when it is a sports star.

 

[subpop77]

Like Clint said watch Life-time. I think you can get the same idea from watching The Hallmark Channel. If she has evidence then hang him from his balls! If not there should be some good jokes about her and her walk of shame.

 

[nosterbor]

He did or he did not. The fact is, he has enough money to get out of it. Thats the American Justice System.
Think OJ here.
P.S.
You or I, just bend over and grab your ankles.

 

[bowmanchromeandorr]

you cant use "oh I was drunk" as a defense, that's just plain dumb and absent minded. let the do the walk of shame like adam said and be done with it. these girls need to heed the advice of Dean Wormer : Fat, Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life... unless, of course, you are Snooki

 

[gogosox40]

Those in Chicago area. Hop much media play is this getting there? Is it wall to wall Castro rape talk.

Actually it's not talked about that much. The sports stations here are mainly focusing on the new coaching changes of the Bears, the Chicago Bulls and baseball trades. Starlin is mentioned but people hear have nothing really to talk about it because he hasnt been charged and we need to have more from this case before making any kind of judgement. Everyone is due there due process and we will see what happens.

 

[All The Hype]

[quote="A_Pharis":1jymi6be]

"Black out" or "unconscious" it doesn't matter. If she was not in a state of mind to fully consent to whatever actions they took, it is rape. Not necessarily "right" but that's how it is. It'll depend specifically on the jurisdiction and how the statutes are written, but that's the general consensus today. Now, whether or not there is evidence of either, nobody but those investigating the case, the woman, and Castro know. If it was in fact rape, I hope he is prosecuted justly. If it was not, I hope she is hit with a defamation of character suit.

I've known plenty of girls who got slobbering drunk, gave it up and took the walk of shame the next day. That's what alcohol does.

It doesn't make it right though, and if they had every right to make a complaint if they felt they were taken advantage of when they were severely impaired. I didn't read the article, but I'm just saying that as a woman - I wouldn't like it and the law would be on my side if I could prove it.

I'm not saying it's right in any way. I'm just saying that in certain circumstances, it's really hard to say WHAT she said when she was heavily intoxicated. ALl I know is is that I've known woman who've gone through this and accepted that they made bad decisions when they were drunk. Of course, they didn't have it happen with a sports star.

That is why it is considered rape when a woman is heavily intoxicated. It is against the law to have sex with someone who is unable to consent if they are that heavily intoxicated. You might know some women who have gone through this but it doesn't matter whether it is a sports star or not. It is still rape. See De Anza baseball team rape. That was horrible, and she was so intoxicated that she passed out. It just is in the news more when it is a sports star.[/quote:1jymi6be]

I agree 100% that if the woman is too drunk to consent then it is rape.

What I'm saying is that you can be blacked out and still seem completely coherent (albeit drunk) to the people around you. All it means if you "blacked out" is that you can't remember what happened during that time frame. Obviously this means she had too much to drink, and it certainly could have put her in a state that made her unable to consent; but all I'm saying is that if she was blacked out and still functioning normally otherwise, then I'd venture to guess that there's a good chance there was consent at the time.

I'm not saying I condone rape or taking advantage of someone far drunker than you--both are horrible. I'm also not saying the male/athlete should be given the benefit of the doubt, because that's completely unfair and so is jumping to conclusions without due process. But this is why blackout vs passed out is the important detail in situations like this, because while one makes this a rape situation, the other just makes it a bad drunk mistake.

 

[A_Pharis]

Note: I do not condone rape nor am I trying to validate anything that may have happened between Starlin and this woman. I have a friend who was drugged and ***** in college. The guy drugged her at a bar, and she was still coherent enough to tell him what dorm she was in. She woke up in her room not remembering what happened at all. She just knew something was wrong and had a major headache. When she asked the RA on duty downstairs, the RA said she came in laughing and joking with the guy.

 

[WaxPax]

Jeter would agree....

He should have given her a signed baseball....she would have never said anything.