8 run lead, heading into playoffs.
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8 run lead, heading into playoffs.
In defense of Davey Johnson, the bullpen has been not so reliable these past few weeks. Blown a lot of games recently.
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90. Pitches.
Coming from someone who has had 95+ pitches in 9 out of his last 10 starts....don't you want to keep him at 90+ pitches to get him prepped for the playoffs so he can go deep into games?
Too much emphasis on pitch count. 90 is awfully close to 100.
Here's a 3 year old article that I will always refer to.
The names and teams aren't important, but here's what happened in July 2008 on a beautiful evening at Nationals Park. The visiting pitching coach went to the mound to talk to his pitcher, who was laboring slightly."I can't pitch any more," the pitcher told the pitching coach."Are you hurt?" the pitching coach asked."No, I just can't pitch any more," the pitcher said. Then he walked off the mound.He had thrown 90 pitches.A STARTER'S MAGIC NUMBER: 100
Welcome to the new age of baseball, an age in which complete games are rare, an era that has brought a new magic number of pitches by a starting pitcher: 100. At that point everyone worries about his either getting hurt or getting rocked.In 1988, 18.5 percent of all starts were in the 96-105 pitch range. In 2008, that number jumped to 32 percent. In 2000, there were 454 starts of at least 120 pitches. Last season, there were 71 starts, or 1.5 percent, an 84 percent drop. In 2009, 1.9 percent of starts have been 120 pitches.The drop from 120 to 100 can be traced to 2001, when the percentage of 120-pitch starts fell from 9.3 percent in 2000 to 4.8 percent. Why? What happened in those years? Since then, the decline has been steady. If a pitcher throws 120 pitches now, it is no longer considered normal; in fact, right or wrong, it is almost considered to be abusive.
"That's the biggest thing to me," said Phillies manager Charlie Manuel. "Six innings, that's about 100 pitches. That's where the magic number came from, I think. When I managed in the minor leagues [in the 1970s], when we got a guy to 120 pitches, we would start to watch, but we'd go as high as 140 pitches. But every year since, [the number of pitches] keeps on dropping."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=4359938
Scotty, I was making a comparison as to why they are so concerned about Stras when they have a 20 game winner who tried to break his ankle in a throw away game with an 8 run lead. He went 6, the Win was his.
Here's a 3 year old article that I will always refer to.
The names and teams aren't important, but here's what happened in July 2008 on a beautiful evening at Nationals Park. The visiting pitching coach went to the mound to talk to his pitcher, who was laboring slightly."I can't pitch any more," the pitcher told the pitching coach."Are you hurt?" the pitching coach asked."No, I just can't pitch any more," the pitcher said. Then he walked off the mound.He had thrown 90 pitches.A STARTER'S MAGIC NUMBER: 100
Welcome to the new age of baseball, an age in which complete games are rare, an era that has brought a new magic number of pitches by a starting pitcher: 100. At that point everyone worries about his either getting hurt or getting rocked.In 1988, 18.5 percent of all starts were in the 96-105 pitch range. In 2008, that number jumped to 32 percent. In 2000, there were 454 starts of at least 120 pitches. Last season, there were 71 starts, or 1.5 percent, an 84 percent drop. In 2009, 1.9 percent of starts have been 120 pitches.The drop from 120 to 100 can be traced to 2001, when the percentage of 120-pitch starts fell from 9.3 percent in 2000 to 4.8 percent. Why? What happened in those years? Since then, the decline has been steady. If a pitcher throws 120 pitches now, it is no longer considered normal; in fact, right or wrong, it is almost considered to be abusive.
"That's the biggest thing to me," said Phillies manager Charlie Manuel. "Six innings, that's about 100 pitches. That's where the magic number came from, I think. When I managed in the minor leagues [in the 1970s], when we got a guy to 120 pitches, we would start to watch, but we'd go as high as 140 pitches. But every year since, [the number of pitches] keeps on dropping."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=4359938
Scotty, I was making a comparison as to why they are so concerned about Stras when they have a 20 game winner who tried to break his ankle in a throw away game with an 8 run lead. He went 6, the Win was his.
