Struggling Prospects Listing - Good buy or cut your losses?

[noaskiecards]

Most of the guys below have dropped at least 25 - 75 % from pre-season prices...While these guys are sucking for the most part, their stuff is way down and it's only 60 games in..The shipped prices are ballpark averages of the last 5 or 6 that ended...Who are you buying and who are you cutting your losses on?

Gary Brown (Age-23, Level-AA) -
60 games, .236 AVG/.626 OPS, 2 HR, 18 BB/43 K
Chrome Auto has dropped to: $18 shipped from $25 shipped

Joe Panik (Age-21, Level-A+) -
58 games, .274 AVG/.676 OPS, 1 HR, 29 BB/23 K
Chrome Auto has dropped to: $10 shipped from $17 shipped

Michael Choice (Age-22, Level-AA) -
57 games, .264 AVG/.708 OPS, 4 HR, 27 BB/57 K
Chrome Auto has dropped to: $12 shipped from $18 shipped

Drew Pomeranz (Age-23, Level-AAA/MLB) -
7 GS in AAA, 2-3, 1.59 ERA, 33 K-13 BB in 34 IP
5 GS in MLB, 0-2, 4.70 ERA, 20 K-15 BB in 23 IP
Chrome Auto has dropped to: $10 shipped from $15 shipped

Zack Cox (Age-23, Level-AAA)
50 games, .209 AVG/.606 OPS, 3 HR, 8 BB/44 K
Chrome Auto has dropped to: $10 shipped from $15 shipped

Guys struggling compared with prior year who have stayed about the same:

Ike Davis - (Age-25, Level-MLB)
56 games, .158 AVG/.507 OPS, 5 HR, 18 BB/59 K
Chrome Auto: $18 DLVD

Manny Machado (Age-20, Level-AA)
57 games, .233 AVG/.687 OPS, 3 HR, 26 BB/44 K
Chrome Auto: $65 DLVD

Anyone else sucking who has dropped in value or stayed about the same? I will try to throw in here also guys who have gone way up and who will sustain their values (Ex: Mike Olt, Matt Barnes, Trevor Story, Anthony Rizzo, Wil Myers, etc)

 

[hive17]

We're talking about looking for deals, right? Guys like Choice and Brown I still like. Josh Sale proves that you can suck for a whole year and it means very little.

Also, since I haven't followed that close, do we suspect injuries in any of these cases? Wil Myers 2.0 would be a welcome scenario again

 

[mwashuc06]

I sold off Panik a while ago, if you can't hit in the CAL league your not gonna make it.

 

[aaron41984]

Explain this one... A Profar BGS 9.5 Ref Auto just sold for $98.01. Buy it Now's were popped at the $150 level in the offseason. His numbers are exceptional for his age and he is very close to Bundy for top prospect in the game.

I must be missing something.

 

[SamHell]

Explain this one... A Profar BGS 9.5 Ref Auto just sold for $98.01. Buy it Now's were popped at the $150 level in the offseason. His numbers are exceptional for his age and he is very close to Bundy for top prospect in the game.

I must be missing something.

High BIN's were there only thing available then. So people paid the price. There is no shortage of Profar autos available for auction so the price lowers. He is still a year away from the bigs. His prices will rise again.

 

[noaskiecards]

Stats last night:

Brown (1-4, BB, 2 K)
Panik (2-4, HR, Run, RBI)
Choice (0-5, 2 K)
Pomeranz - DNP
Cox - DNP, DL
Machado - (1-4, 2B, Run, BB)
Davis - (1-2, 2 BB)

All these guys suck, but someone has to explain to me why Gary Brown is maintaining his value...I think he should be a $10 chrome auto at his current performance levels and considering he can't hit in AA at 23 years of age...His season in the California league I will admit was insane...But his cards really haven't moved downwards

 

[phillyfan0417]

Stats last night:

Brown (1-4, BB, 2 K)
Panik (2-4, HR, Run, RBI)
Choice (0-5, 2 K)
Pomeranz - DNP
Cox - DNP, DL
Machado - (1-4, 2B, Run, BB)
Davis - (1-2, 2 BB)

All these guys suck, but someone has to explain to me why Gary Brown is maintaining his value...I think he should be a $10 chrome auto at his current performance levels and considering he can't hit in AA at 23 years of age...His season in the California league I will admit was insane...But his cards really haven't moved downwards

I cant stop laughing since you've put Machado on that list. 20 years old and playing at AA.

 

[boomo]

HOW does ike davis even get a 1.00? 28 hits in almost 200 ab's?
i mean if he were to break out, getting to .200 would be hard.
and is he all of a sudden going to not suck next year? baffling

 

[noaskiecards]

Machado has a ton of talent...I'm just surprised after:

63 games (260 AB), 5 HR, .692 OPS - A Advanced
58 games (244 AB), 3 HR, .691 OPS - AA

He hasn't at least dropped a little bit...If anything his card has gone up as a result of the past 121 games between A+/AA...Maybe I am not understanding how statistics are meaningless? If a guy plays at a high level at a young age and gets absolutely dominated, he actually rises in value due to the fact that he's facing competition that is older than him? So in essence, Machado cards can't go down as long as he is playing at high levels for his age...Seems win-win

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Machado has a ton of talent...I'm just surprised after:

63 games (260 AB), 5 HR, .692 OPS - A Advanced
58 games (244 AB), 3 HR, .691 OPS - AA

He hasn't at least dropped a little bit...If anything his card has gone up as a result of the past 121 games between A+/AA...Maybe I am not understanding how statistics are meaningless? If a guy plays at a high level at a young age and gets absolutely dominated, he actually rises in value due to the fact that he's facing competition that is older than him? So in essence, Machado cards can't go down as long as he is playing at high levels for his age...Seems win-win

I think you get it, not surprisingly investors simply drive prices more than production or statistics do with regard to prospects.

 

[phillyfan0417]

I think you get it, not surprisingly investors simply drive prices more than production or statistics do with regard to prospects.

I think its that you dont get it, not surprised since you love to rail against prospecting anyway.

Numbers are more than what is being pointed out here and prices have stayed steady since many people realize that. Also, knowing who a few of the machado prospectors are, there track records speak for themselves.