Sucktastic BGS grade poopage- 12.5% CLUB!!!!

[lisu]

The older the card, the more of a premium that someone will pay for a 9 grade. I wouldn't touch anything older than 2008 that isn't graded because the chances the card has been altered (trimmed or artificially enhanced) is a lot higher.

 

[burke23]

I don't get why folks do the min grade thing. Let them slab it so you can see how they grade...you can always crack out later. Keeps the guessing out, and if you are close to a sub bump then you know your next step.
Would love to see the Red Longoria, btw.

Here's a pre-slab scan:

I thought it had a chance at 9.5 centering since the Stras super got a 9, maybe I should have told Beckett I was going to sell it through them. :lol:

Wow - that didn't get a 9.5 on centering? Grader was having a bad day for sure...resub. Remember - grading is just an opinion
Sweet looking card, btw...the reds sure do just pop at ya.

 

[brouthercard]

good points, everyone.

I mean, when you see an older, rarer higher end raw card that looks nice, isn't the first thing you ask yourself "why isn't this slabbed?"

If you are serious about purchasing a 2001 chrome pujols auto, would you prefer to buy a raw one or a bgs 9 one, especially if you can't afford a bgs 9.5?

 

[bradical]

good points, everyone.

I mean, when you see an older, rarer higher end raw card that looks nice, isn't the first thing you ask yourself "why isn't this slabbed?"

If you are serious about purchasing a 2001 chrome pujols auto, would you prefer to buy a raw one or a bgs 9 one, especially if you can't afford a bgs 9.5?

I prefer buying anything high-end in a slab. I will also always take the gamble of buying a Mint 9 with strong subs on the hopes of a sub bump.

 

[brouthercard]

I don't get why folks do the min grade thing. Let them slab it so you can see how they grade...you can always crack out later. Keeps the guessing out, and if you are close to a sub bump then you know your next step.
Would love to see the Red Longoria, btw.

Here's a pre-slab scan:

I thought it had a chance at 9.5 centering since the Stras super got a 9, maybe I should have told Beckett I was going to sell it through them. :lol:

Wow - that didn't get a 9.5 on centering? Grader was having a bad day for sure...resub. Remember - grading is just an opinion
Sweet looking card, btw...the reds sure do just pop at ya.

Yah, I was pretty disappointed, especially when I saw a ton of other bgs 9.5 slabs with WORSE centering get 9.5's and 10's for centering.

Do you think graders will scrutinize higher end cards more carefully than regular base bowman chrome (except for the Strasburg)? I think they reverted back to the old grading standards for this one.

I personally don't like the concept of re-submitting, but I'm sure others don't mind. We'll see it in a bgs 9.5 holder one day, i'm sure, just like most all close cards.

 

[nosterbor]

My first submission in ten years. I thought Beckett was supposed to be more lenient now. I hope my next submission in ten years does better.

I guess 1 gold out of 8 total cards submitted isn't too bad, a BGS 9.5 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun 10 auto, my VERY FIRST and ONLY gold label EVER!!!!!

And the rest of my silverlicious tombs, which are headed to the dumpster outside Wossa's building (me thinks I really need a good retinal transplant):

BGS 9 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Clayton Kershaw orange refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria red refractor 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Ultimate Champions Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Goudey Sport Royalty Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 9 2001 Upper Deck Player's Ink gold Tiger Woods 10 auto

Maybe the local children's hospital will take the silver tombs. Oh wait, they only accept BGS 9.5's
I guess i'll just tuck these away with the rest of the commons in my monster boxes.

Oh well, if anyone wants to assure themselves some gold slabs, submit with me next time! :lol:

Those cards don't need gold slabs to be incredible and appreciated, I'm sure you know that.

easy for you to say. look at your sig!

 

[SINFULONE]

The older the card, the more of a premium that someone will pay for a 9 grade. I wouldn't touch anything older than 2008 that isn't graded because the chances the card has been altered (trimmed or artificially enhanced) is a lot higher.

Damn, you're off to a nice start with your Belt rainbow.

 

[lisu]

The older the card, the more of a premium that someone will pay for a 9 grade. I wouldn't touch anything older than 2008 that isn't graded because the chances the card has been altered (trimmed or artificially enhanced) is a lot higher.

Damn, you're off to a nice start with your Belt rainbow.

I'm actually done. I just need to scan all of them.

 

[BigAppleJak]

Not too bad, way to hold on to those Tigers.

I still have a small stash, but they ain;t what they used to be.

 

[bmc398]

My first submission in ten years. I thought Beckett was supposed to be more lenient now. I hope my next submission in ten years does better.

I guess 1 gold out of 8 total cards submitted isn't too bad, a BGS 9.5 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun 10 auto, my VERY FIRST and ONLY gold label EVER!!!!!

And the rest of my silverlicious tombs, which are headed to the dumpster outside Wossa's building (me thinks I really need a good retinal transplant):

BGS 9 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Clayton Kershaw orange refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria red refractor 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Ultimate Champions Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Goudey Sport Royalty Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 9 2001 Upper Deck Player's Ink gold Tiger Woods 10 auto

Maybe the local children's hospital will take the silver tombs. Oh wait, they only accept BGS 9.5's
I guess i'll just tuck these away with the rest of the commons in my monster boxes.

Oh well, if anyone wants to assure themselves some gold slabs, submit with me next time! :lol:

Thats not a bad grade on the TW Goudey auto at all. I pulled one and id be shocked if it got an 8.5.

Since there are only 5 of them out there, the grade won't matter that much, and now you know at least one other copy WASNT in better shape!

 

[SINFULONE]

The older the card, the more of a premium that someone will pay for a 9 grade. I wouldn't touch anything older than 2008 that isn't graded because the chances the card has been altered (trimmed or artificially enhanced) is a lot higher.

Damn, you're off to a nice start with your Belt rainbow.

I'm actually done. I just need to scan all of them.

You should show it off ASAP.Are you going after his signed rainbow as well?Aren't you a big Pennington collector too?Don't you have his rainbow as well?

 

[lisu]

The older the card, the more of a premium that someone will pay for a 9 grade. I wouldn't touch anything older than 2008 that isn't graded because the chances the card has been altered (trimmed or artificially enhanced) is a lot higher.

Damn, you're off to a nice start with your Belt rainbow.

I'm actually done. I just need to scan all of them.

You should show it off ASAP.Are you going after his signed rainbow as well?Aren't you a big Pennington collector too?Don't you have his rainbow as well?

I have the rainbow for Pennington except I couldn't get the super. I have the red ref auto 1/1.

I'm sure I will when I get back home from my business trip.

 

[promodeltodd]

You do know that the back is included on the centering grade, right? OP, without knowing the subgrades I am not sure where you lost the most. It sounds like just the centering, so how does the back look. If it is surface too, it may have the finger prints that can be taken care of.

to those who do minimum grades, you do realize that the more you do minimum grades, the more that don't get slabbed, the more the populations reports give a false sense of grading. When you have nothing but 9.5s and a few 10s and 9s mixed in for the population report , it shows that that card/set grades real easy. Now poeple get pissed with grading when they get an 8.5 and in this case even a 9. If you just let those grades go through as 9 and lower it only makes the 9.5s and 10s more valuable. Until they show a column of cards sent and not meeting minimum grades on the pop reports, you will never see the true amount the card can fetch.

 

[zach]

My first submission in ten years. I thought Beckett was supposed to be more lenient now. I hope my next submission in ten years does better.

I guess 1 gold out of 8 total cards submitted isn't too bad, a BGS 9.5 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun 10 auto, my VERY FIRST and ONLY gold label EVER!!!!!

And the rest of my silverlicious tombs, which are headed to the dumpster outside Wossa's building (me thinks I really need a good retinal transplant):

BGS 9 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Clayton Kershaw orange refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria red refractor 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Ultimate Champions Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Goudey Sport Royalty Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 9 2001 Upper Deck Player's Ink gold Tiger Woods 10 auto

Maybe the local children's hospital will take the silver tombs. Oh wait, they only accept BGS 9.5's
I guess i'll just tuck these away with the rest of the commons in my monster boxes.

Oh well, if anyone wants to assure themselves some gold slabs, submit with me next time! :lol:

But why make it seem like it's Beckett's fault for the grades? I would rather they're not "lenient" and be tougher on grading.

 

[brouthercard]

My first submission in ten years. I thought Beckett was supposed to be more lenient now. I hope my next submission in ten years does better.

I guess 1 gold out of 8 total cards submitted isn't too bad, a BGS 9.5 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun 10 auto, my VERY FIRST and ONLY gold label EVER!!!!!

And the rest of my silverlicious tombs, which are headed to the dumpster outside Wossa's building (me thinks I really need a good retinal transplant):

BGS 9 2005 Bowman Chrome Draft Ryan Braun gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria gold refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Clayton Kershaw orange refractor 10 auto
BGS 9 2006 Bowman Chrome Draft Evan Longoria red refractor 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Ultimate Champions Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 8.5 2008 Goudey Sport Royalty Tiger Woods 10 auto
BGS 9 2001 Upper Deck Player's Ink gold Tiger Woods 10 auto

Maybe the local children's hospital will take the silver tombs. Oh wait, they only accept BGS 9.5's
I guess i'll just tuck these away with the rest of the commons in my monster boxes.

Oh well, if anyone wants to assure themselves some gold slabs, submit with me next time! :lol:

But why make it seem like it's Beckett's fault for the grades? I would rather they're not "lenient" and be tougher on grading.

I was actually being semi-sarcastic about the grades and poking fun at the "bgs orders popped threads" - I figure people hardly ever get to see silver filled maildays, kind of like how people never report crappy box breaks. The cards are pretty sick to have regardless. To tell you the truth, I still think Beckett is pretty lenient compared to what they used to be. I knew most were going to be "9"'s, but I submitted them mainly to try to help the red Longo. :evil:

promodeltodd- that is a good point about the pop reports, but hardly anyone wants to sacrifice a "9" or "8.5" for the benefit of the whole. It should be noted that even grade-bumped cards are reported twice and throws off the pop reports for many cards, ie, the previous AND new grade will be reported on the pop report, hence, some cards have pop reports number totals greater than the actual population of the card. That, or the card company produced more than what is reported.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

You should have gone with PSA

 

[AK11]

Did any of the 9s have all 9 or higher subgrades? If any of them are "fine nines" I believe that still gives them a value boost over raw.

 

[brouthercard]

Did any of the 9s have all 9 or higher subgrades? If any of them are "fine nines" I believe that still gives them a value boost over raw.

The Longo red is all 9's or higher - that was the best of the 9's. I got 3 9's and one 9.5. Honestly, they could have given the centering a 9.5 (i've seen 9.5 centering with worse centering before, many times) and the surface a 9.5 as well ( no major blemishes). I'm not going to resubmit, cause i'm morally opposed to the concept. It's better for a buyer to be impressed with a mint card in a 9 holder than a less than mint card in a 9.5 holder. I knew the corners were going to be a 9. Oh well, I tried, but at least if I was buying a Longo red, I would feel safer purchasing it as a bgs 9 than raw, especially, as Lisu pointed out, it is an older card and people would wonder why it isn't slabbed, just like the kershaw and braun as well.

I'm sure you have all seen cards in 9.5 slabs that are a joke, and i've seen a bgs 10/10 Teixeira ultimate rookie auto that is the biggest joke of them all.

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

About 2 years ago a red longoria auto with same grade as yours sold for like 3800$

It was over 3500 100% sure.

 

[SINFULONE]

About 2 years ago a red longoria auto with same grade as yours sold for like 3800$

It was over 3500 100% sure.

I remember that.I think that was during the ALCS the Rays and Red Sox played.I think it sold for $2200 the first time and then $3800 6 months later or something.

If I saw that card raw I'd absolutely ask myself why that nice of a card isn't slabbed.There's got to be something wrong with it if it isn't slabbed.