super beta,,,,,, thoughts?????????????????

[hive17]

What were to criteria for the players that made the list? Just curious. If you need info, I have some Yount infor I can donate.

There's two searches I do everyday and record- Pujols and 1/1. From time to time, I will update bat barrels and mlb logo patches. When a new set releases like Triple Threads, Topps Unique, or BDP, I'll include searches for those sets until the initial rush has ended.

I don't eman how were the prices selected, I mean, how were the players selected? I see Brad Nelson for the Brewers who sucks, but no David Nilsson? Now, i can assume it's because Nelson actually has rare cards in the last 5-8 years, yet so does Nilsson. But was there a line drawn in the sand as far as time-frame?

Again, just curious. I like the database and want to know where I can send helpful info

 

[pigskincardboard]

What were to criteria for the players that made the list? Just curious. If you need info, I have some Yount infor I can donate.

There's two searches I do everyday and record- Pujols and 1/1. From time to time, I will update bat barrels and mlb logo patches. When a new set releases like Triple Threads, Topps Unique, or BDP, I'll include searches for those sets until the initial rush has ended.

You know that's irregal, right?

Either way, how much do you want for the data? I'd love to look through it.

 

[Stryk]

I would have loved to have this data a month ago. I saw a Frank Thomas/Magglio Dual Bat Barrel that was listed horribly that only went for 169. Wish I would have known what they went for.

 

[Codasco07]

Outside of Pujols, I search by set, not player. If the player turned up in the set search, he was recorded. This is FCBs data now, I emailed Chris an update this morning and there should be over 10,000 points. Once it is all set up, it will be updated daily but for now I am updating it using my system and sending Chris periodic updates.

There was suppossed to be a blog set up, but I can't find it so I will use this thread to take input as tp what to track. Here's the current searches:

Pujols (Rookies, daily)
1/1s (daily)
Topps Unique, Bowman Draft (daily)
Crusades, logo patch, bat barrel, Jeter/Griffey Buybacks (weekly)

Additionally when there is a noteworthy cut sale that I see I will include it. This currently takes about 20 minutes a day so there is a limit.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Great tool, thanks a lot for putting this together! There's a TON of data here.

 

[bassprokvd]

Nice work.
It could be a really good resource to use.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Although a lot of effort has already been put into this, but if I may suggest an improvement: it can be helpful to know whether the price was achieved via straight-up auction or BIN/BO.

 

[Cobra29svt]

Although a lot of effort has already been put into this, but if I may suggest an improvement: it can be helpful to know whether the price was achieved via straight-up auction or BIN/BO.

Agree 100%. Some (many) of those were a BIN that was well below what a auction would have netted. Overall, I love the idea & info provided. Keep up the great work!

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Also above what it would have ended at auction, which is probably why we're seeing soooo many more BIN/BO options nowadays.

Agree 100%. Some (many) of those were a BIN that was well below what a auction would have netted. Overall, I love the idea & info provided. Keep up the great work!

 

[Cobra29svt]

Also above what it would have ended at auction, which is probably why we're seeing soooo many more BIN/BO options nowadays.

Agree 100%. Some (many) of those were a BIN that was well below what a auction would have netted. Overall, I love the idea & info provided. Keep up the great work!

Very true, but that is still a price someone was willing to pay, where as the "steals" are still leaving a lot of $$$ on the table. Does that make any sence? My main example is the Frank Thomas '08 Finest 1/1 I bought for $80BIN. No way that sells for $80 at auction. The '08 Topps Chrome Super was also a $195 BIN. The '07 Bowman Chrome Super went for just under $500 at auction to give something to compare to.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

No matter which position you're taking, keeping track of BIN/BOs is important because you know you'd be comparing apples to apples!

Your '08 Finest Thomas sounds cheap at $80, I would've bid higher than that. Also if the '08 Topps Super wasn't BIN it probably would've went a lot higher; I'd have paid more had I seen that.

Very true, but that is still a price someone was willing to pay, where as the "steals" are still leaving a lot of $$$ on the table. Does that make any sence? My main example is the Frank Thomas '08 Finest 1/1 I bought for $80BIN. No way that sells for $80 at auction. The '08 Topps Chrome Super was also a $195 BIN. The '07 Bowman Chrome Super went for just under $500 at auction to give something to compare to.

 

[Fandruw25]

Regardless if it's a BIN or an auction it's still a sale....that's the only way to look at it when tracking sales.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Clearly BINs/BOs help account for anomalies within certain kinds of sales, most notably the rare cards that are being tracked here. Price anomalies certainly exist within rare cards, especially if one offers a BIN that's either a bargain or out-of-whack too expensive.

Auctions tell us more about the price of a card than BINs/BOs as more than one person is willing to bid the top price, making the final price more reliable.

There's a reason why Beckett doesn't generally list prices on cards #/25 or less, so the prices of these types of cards often do have to be taken with a grain of salt.

Regardless if it's a BIN or an auction it's still a sale....that's the only way to look at it when tracking sales.

 

[Codasco07]

Regardless if it's a BIN or an auction it's still a sale....that's the only way to look at it when tracking sales.

Agreed. Titles probably affect the sales price more than the listing style and tracking those wouldn't be too helpful either.

 

[Fandruw25]

Regardless if it's a BIN or an auction it's still a sale....that's the only way to look at it when tracking sales.

Agreed. Titles probably affect the sales price more than the listing style and tracking those wouldn't be too helpful either.

I'll got a step further and say one of the Andruw Sales that is listed...was never completed....it sold and the buyer never paid....I know because I was the seller....so it's another variable.



I think what the OP is doing is great and no one (excluding business like beckett) too date has done anything and if you have, then please step forth.

 

[smapdi]

Good info, this sort of thing is necessary. But I'd suggest a couple improvements. The player list should be alpha by last name, or at least have the option. And the source of the sale would also be most helpful. There are a couple Sizemore cards listed, 2008 Topps Update Platinum and 2009 Topps Chrome Super, that I can't believe I would have missed on ebay unless they were listed completely horribly. If sold through another venue, it'd be great to have. And if on ebay, the name of the seller and buyer, if available, would also be great to have.

And note if the price is BIN or straight up auction. I wouldn't care about the price so much as if the card has been spotted in the wild.

BTW, there's a Sizemore and Sizmore listed.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Of non-rare or semi-rare cards perhaps. You may never be able to tell otherwise with rare cards - there isn't likely another example to compare it to.

Agreed. Titles probably affect the sales price more than the listing style and tracking those wouldn't be too helpful either.

 

[pigskincardboard]

Regardless if it's a BIN or an auction it's still a sale....that's the only way to look at it when tracking sales.

Agreed. Titles probably affect the sales price more than the listing style and tracking those wouldn't be too helpful either.

I'll got a step further and say one of the Andruw Sales that is listed...was never completed....it sold and the buyer never paid....I know because I was the seller....so it's another variable.



I think what the OP is doing is great and no one (excluding business like beckett) too date has done anything and if you have, then please step forth.

I guess I'll say this again.

No one's done this because they'll get sued!

Ebay completed auction data is property of ebay inc. and must be licensed at a very pretty penny...

Once you start listing buy it now/auction type stuff, or even saying that you got the data from ebay, you're leaving yourself open.

When it comes to fair use stuff, eBay barely has a leg to stand on... but with that said, they'll have no problem making you rack up massive legal bills.

So long as no information ties it to ebay, you're probably set but if someone ever finds it, and realizes you've made a profit off it, watch the hell out.

 

[bouwob]

made a few minor changes

 

[CAROLINA BOSOX]

Are certain sets not tracked? I ask b/c I didn't see Justin Smoak and his only cards are Tristar, USA, and Razor.

Cool info though, I wish I had some of those rare Boggs cards. I have never even seen a 3000 hit card of his.