Texas Girls Team was Game 100-0...and has to Apologize!

[justinmandawg]

I misread what you previously said. I got my nursing degree from a Christian school. Even the colleges are the way you put it. I just missed a word or two and changed the meaning of what you were saying.

The school I went to won a national championship in NAIA bkb and I've never seen a group of guys that were more humble. If they'd have won 100-0, coach would have had issue with it.

Basically, if this incident had taken place between 2 "secular" schools, or public schools that are not based around a religious denomination, we wouldn't be having this discussion, nor would an article have been written, but most of all, an apology would never have been announced. Not from a secular school.

If you have understanding of Christian schools and their philosophies and what they are founded on, then you can understand the reasoning behind an apology being released for such an incident. I'm sure the coaches will have a good talking-to for allowing such a thing to take place, but more importantly for not setting a good example for the school.

This thread is titled with an emphasis being put on the apology part of the story. I was trying to help enlighten why the apology was being given.

P.S. I guess I better put in a disclaimer before someone thinks I'm generalizing. My statements do not apply to all private Christian schools. Just the one in this story and ones with similar philosophies and beliefs.

So it makes sense for public schools and not "religious" schools? Or it applies to public schools and the non-secular schools tend to take care of it themselves type of situation?

No, I did mean secular, defined as I know it to mean schools that are religiously-neutral, or public schools. I would consider non-secular as schools based on a religious denomination of some sort. I apologize if those are incorrect definitions. That's just how I've always referred to them.

You mean non-secular? Trying to make sure I understand you correctly.

I am not at all throwing religion into this discussion, I'm only bringing it up because it was part of the article!! So don't flame me!

What ya'll are debating makes sense for secular schools. I have never heard of a regular public high school team being told to apologize for a lopsided win. It's unheard of.

This school is a private Christian school. If any of you have any experience with Christian schools, you know that the underlying philosophy is to do all things to the glory of God, including how you play sports. Don't get me wrong, sports teams train to win the games they play, but the kids are also taught to approach the game as they play it wiht the attitude of, would God be pleased with my performance? Or in this case, with the performance of my team?

Having been to Christian schools in my youth, I understand the reason why the head of the school is doing this. I disagree with it, because I think it will set a real bad taste in the mouths of the girls on his school's team. They will never approach playing sports the same again. And if we followed this story, I'll bet the coach and assistant coach disagree with it too.

The reason I'm writing this is because if you haven't had experience in Christian schools, then save your breath about debating something more important. Religion and sports is a tough mix.

 

[prozac4312]

How in the bloody blue hell do you not score ONE basket in a game of basketball?

I don't care how great the other team is...No points?!

When I played LeBron as a senior (I was a freshman) in high school, he had more points than our team (and sat the whole second half), and we didn't break their press until 4 minutes into the first quarter...But hell, we scored...

 

[Adamsince1981]

Predator,

We get it...you had a never quit, give it 110% all the time attitude.

I'm just telling you that what that team did was, well, lets just say they won't win the league's Sportsmanship award and 99.9% of coaches would have never let their kids press and chuck 3's until they got to 100 points.

I left at half time tonight. The score was 49 to 12. There is a "Never Quit's" kind of player on my wife's team. She probably had 15 points and, if allowed, she'd continue to full court press, aggresively score at any opportunity, and hit 3's for the rest of the game. But, she'll be watching from the bench from middle of the 3rd quarter on.

You can go on all night about how competitive you are, just don't disagree with the correct coaching practice.

 

[Pete14Rose]

F*** PC behavior.

QFT!

 

[Pete14Rose]

There is a "Never Quit's" kind of player on my wife's team. She probably had 15 points and, if allowed, she'd continue to full court press, aggresively score at any opportunity, and hit 3's for the rest of the game. But, she'll be watching from the bench from middle of the 3rd quarter on.

You can go on all night about how competitive you are, just don't disagree with the correct coaching practice.

The correct coaching practice?

That girl would be on my team in a heartbeat. I she wouldn't be punished by being benched in a blowout. Not many kids play with that kind of intensity these days....I wish other would learn from her.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

...the team that won 100-0...they did they nicest thing they could've done. They slaughtered the other team. That gives the other team a few options... A: Work harder B: Quit C: Don't play teams that would be considered normal if you can't handle it.




I have an idea.... Let's mix the special Olympics in with the regular Olympics and tell the athletes not to try so hard...



We don't let blind people drive cars. I suppose we should.

 

[Adamsince1981]

There is a "Never Quit's" kind of player on my wife's team. She probably had 15 points and, if allowed, she'd continue to full court press, aggresively score at any opportunity, and hit 3's for the rest of the game. But, she'll be watching from the bench from middle of the 3rd quarter on.

You can go on all night about how competitive you are, just don't disagree with the correct coaching practice.

The correct coaching practice?

That girl would be on my team in a heartbeat. I she wouldn't be punished by being benched in a blowout. Not many kids play with that kind of intensity these days....I wish other would learn from her.

She would be on the bench with the rest of the starting 5. I only mentioned her because she fit the description that predator offered. And I said nothing of it being punishment.

They would be on the bench because they would no longer be needed, kids that get less playing time would get some extra game action, and the team wouldn't be running up the score.

It is very simple.

 

[All The Hype]

I don't care what problems a team has. As a competitor and an athlete, it is your job to come out to any game with the full intention of absolutely obliterating the opponent, with no mercy. You do not let up until the game is absolutely decided. At that point, it is generally sportsmanlike to put in the benchwarmers and stop pressing full court, but even then, you don't stop playing as hard as you can.

If a team isn't good enough to handle getting thumped like that, they shouldn't be out there.

From personal experience, there was one time in high school when my team was winning a game 27-0 with 1 out in the second inning and the other team simply gave up. They literally walked off the field, got back on their bus, and left the tournament (forfeiting their game later in the day as well). It was really fun for me and my teammates, as it was one of two games in my high school career where I hit two home runs in the same game, and everyone (even the guys on the lower half of the lineup were hitting like studs).

 

[Brett Keith]

Could someone issue an apology for this thread?

 

[Wes]

I don't care what problems a team has. As a competitor and an athlete, it is your job to come out to any game with the full intention of absolutely obliterating the opponent, with no mercy. You do not let up until the game is absolutely decided. At that point, it is generally sportsmanlike to put in the benchwarmers and stop pressing full court, but even then, you don't stop playing as hard as you can.

If a team isn't good enough to handle getting thumped like that, they shouldn't be out there.

From personal experience, there was one time in high school when my team was winning a game 27-0 with 1 out in the second inning and the other team simply gave up. They literally walked off the field, got back on their bus, and left the tournament (forfeiting their game later in the day as well). It was really fun for me and my teammates, as it was one of two games in my high school career where I hit two home runs in the same game, and everyone (even the guys on the lower half of the lineup were hitting like studs).

Had the same thing happen in little league - doubleheader first game we won 26-0 I went 6/6 with three triples (there was no fence at the field). Second game we had a 14-0 lead in the third and had batted around TWICE in the first two innings - 18 hitters per inning. Shortest no hitter of my life as a pitcher and the other team just took off since they had thrown EVERYONE on their team on the mound. Still a great story to reminisce about.

 

[Adamsince1981]

Baseball is different than basketball.

With baseball, most of the time you can run rule a team. This goes to anyone who posted a baseball example: If you played past the 3rd inning in the 15+ to 0 games, then the league or tournament director hadn't a clue as to what he was doing.

In basketball, during a blow out, 99.9% of coaches would put in bench players and remove the full court press. Some would even go as far as putting a zone on and requiring a certain amount of passes before they can shoot.

No one is saying that players shouldn't play hard or give 100%...but sportsmanship is important and there is a respectful way of blowing a team out.

 

[DRav87]

How in the bloody blue hell do you not score ONE basket in a game of basketball?

I don't care how great the other team is...No points?!

When I played LeBron as a senior (I was a freshman) in high school, he had more points than our team (and sat the whole second half), and we didn't break their press until 4 minutes into the first quarter...But hell, we scored...

Exactly, you think would get lucky and score at least one basket.

Also if they couldn't stop the other team that is their own fault. I mean what did you expect the winning team to do just stand around and not shoot the ball? The full court press wasn't necessary but if the losing team couldn't protect the ball on offense then go ahead and steal the ball and if they couldn't stop you on defense then go ahead and shoot.

The game wasn't going to be called so I don't understand what people expected the winning team to do in this situation. Let the other team score? Not shoot the ball?

They couldn't be stopped they had to do something.

 

[fengzhang]

My 2 cents:

1. The girls shouldn't have to apologize if that's what happened. As athletes, they should play hard regardless of the score.

2. However, the coach should take the blame here. He should've changed the strategy once the win was secure. He should've asked his players to stop the full court press and stop lobbing up 3's. This is amateur basketball. The object is to show sportsmanship as well as win the game. The coach only accomplished one of the two. Think about why you get a 15-yard penalty for excessive celebration in the NFL or a technical foul in the NBA or a fastball at your head in the MLB. It's easy to have the "well, if they didn't want the score to be 100-0, they should've played better" attitude but that's not what the game is about. Once you have the win in hand, your mission is to accomplish the second objective: to win with honor. Again, I'm not blaming the players. I think this is the coach's responsibility.

 

[Adamsince1981]

How in the bloody blue hell do you not score ONE basket in a game of basketball?

I don't care how great the other team is...No points?!

When I played LeBron as a senior (I was a freshman) in high school, he had more points than our team (and sat the whole second half), and we didn't break their press until 4 minutes into the first quarter...But hell, we scored...

Exactly, you think would get lucky and score at least one basket.

Also if they couldn't stop the other team that is their own fault. I mean what did you expect the winning team to do just stand around and not shoot the ball? The full court press wasn't necessary but if the losing team couldn't protect the ball on offense then go ahead and steal the ball and if they couldn't stop you on defense then go ahead and shoot.

The game wasn't going to be called so I don't understand what people expected the winning team to do in this situation. Let the other team score? Not shoot the ball?

They couldn't be stopped they had to do something.

....they had the full court press on and were shooting 3's while the bench, including members of the coaching staff, were cheering them on.

 

[DRav87]

....they had the full court press on and were shooting 3's while the bench, including members of the coaching staff, were cheering them on.

So the full court press and the cheering from the coaches wasn't necessary but if the other team isn't going to contest the three point shot then I would shoot them all day.

 

[Adamsince1981]

....they had the full court press on and were shooting 3's while the bench, including members of the coaching staff, were cheering them on.

So the full court press and the cheering from the coaches wasn't necessary but if the other team isn't going to contest the three point shot then I would shoot them all day.

...if the bench was in and the press was off, sure. And I don't know a single coach that would outwardly "cheer" in a 100 point blow out.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

how about coaches just start telling athletes not to play so hard? "You go out there and give it , ohh I dunno, 25%!!! That way, there's no chance you'll hurt anyone's feelings."

 

[Adamsince1981]

how about coaches just start telling athletes not to play so hard? "You go out there and give it , ohh I dunno, 25%!!! That way, there's no chance you'll hurt anyone's feelings."

Do you really think that is some right on and powerful post?

No one has said that players shouldn't try hard or to play at a certain %. There are simply certain steps that a team who is blowing out another team can take that will lead to a win that includes sportsmanship.

Maybe it is harder to understand than I think it is.

 

[fengzhang]

how about coaches just start telling athletes not to play so hard? "You go out there and give it , ohh I dunno, 25%!!! That way, there's no chance you'll hurt anyone's feelings."

It is up to the coach to institute the system and the players to play as hard as they can within that system.

In professional football, there are a lot of formations depending on if the team wants to guard against a big play, score quickly, or run out the clock. No one is saying that the players shouldn't try as hard as they can but it's up to the coach to call the plays.

In basketball, coaches change up formations all the time: switch from zone to man-to-man and vice-versa, call off full-court press, re-institute full-court press, tell the team to run less, to stop shooting so many 3's, to play half-court offense, whatever. This is all within the territory of the coach and happens during every basketball game. The players then try to play the best they can within the strategy that's set by the coach. There's nothing wrong with telling your players to stop pressing and to use more of the shot clock.

And whooping and cheering when the score is 100-0 is just not classy no matter how you slice and dice it.

 

[Adamsince1981]

I'll throw this out there:

How many times have you seen or heard of a player getting hurt late in a game and people asking, "What was he/she even doing on the field?"