Texas Girls Team was Game 100-0...and has to Apologize!

[KCBeltranFan]

sports are about competing..You dont want to compete, dont play. All this PC nonsense is exactly what is wrong with our country.

I don't even need to finish the thread. This post sums it up nicely.

 

[hive17]

Merrian-Webster says:

Main Entry: sports·man·ship
Pronunciation: \-?ship\
Function: noun
Date: 1745
: conduct becoming to one participating in a sport (as fairness, respect for one's opponent, and graciousness in winning or losing)

From reading the story I can't see how the winning team was unsportsmanlike.

Did they play fair? No indication to the contrary.
Does it show a lack of respect to continue to play the game as it should be played? No.
Were the players gracious in winning or did they go, "Tee-hee, you guys suck!" It doesn't say that anywhere.

I wouldn't have posted this definition, since you whitewashed part of it. The part about "respect for one's opponents" is exactly what's at debate here. You twisted that part to make it about playing the game correctly.

Bottom line with all of this: these two teams should NOT have been playing each other. It was destined to turn into a bitch-fest exactly like it has. The better team shouldn't be penalized for thier skills, the worse team didn't need to have this shot to competative spirit. The greedy coaches were baited into trying for something that they always wanted.

PC pansys want to blame an "over-competitive" nature. Sportsman "tough-guys" want everyone to "suck it up!" And everyone involved in this ordeal comes off looking like morons, (except the girls, I guess, ugh.).

 

[Therion]

Still a problem telling the winning team they did something wrong and making them feel guilty about it.

I've been following this thread from the beginning but nobody has mentioned one fact: It was the administration of the school that won the game that insisted on the apology and requested a forfeit. As far as all of the local news has shown, almost nobody outside of a handful of parents complained about this.

If you look at yourself and realize you did something unsportsmanlike, then what's the problem? If this had happened without the score of 100-0 nobody would have noticed.

I honestly don't see your point. It was an internal decision. Nobody from the outside demanded this. Nobody from the losing team called up the winning team and complained. The school itself realized they were quite unsportsmanlike and sought self-corrective measures.

And I still contend that without the 100-0 score none of us hear about this because "Girls Baseketball Team Win 98-74 And Appologizes!!" isn't as attention grabbing. If the school itself decides it was unsportsmanlike, then odds are there is little question of the lack of sportsmanship that occurred in the game.

 

[hive17]

Still a problem telling the winning team they did something wrong and making them feel guilty about it.

I've been following this thread from the beginning but nobody has mentioned one fact: It was the administration of the school that won the game that insisted on the apology and requested a forfeit. As far as all of the local news has shown, almost nobody outside of a handful of parents complained about this.

If you look at yourself and realize you did something unsportsmanlike, then what's the problem? If this had happened without the score of 100-0 nobody would have noticed.

I honestly don't see your point. It was an internal decision. Nobody from the outside demanded this. Nobody from the losing team called up the winning team and complained. The school itself realized they were quite unsportsmanlike and sought self-corrective measures.

And I still contend that without the 100-0 score none of us hear about this because "Girls Baseketball Team Win 98-74 And Appologizes!!" isn't as attention grabbing. If the school itself decides it was unsportsmanlike, then odds are there is little question of the lack of sportsmanship that occurred in the game.

I generally agree with therion here. But i WOULD take issue if the winning school's administration did this without the input from the girls. DON'T make decisions for these girls that reflects on their character. If the girls thought it was wrong and wanted to apologize, it's thier right (and please stop with the "oh, it's this too PC society we live in crap"; that's getting to be just as whiney and trite as the other side). The fact that the school feels they should have apologized means they probably knew better in scheduling this game, but decided to make the error anyway.

 

[predatorkj]

Pete,

If you don't understand the simple concept of sportsmanship, then you are pathetic.

Ah, the freedoms of saying things on the computer you wouldn't dare say in person. Must be nice.

If we were in person I'd tell you it just to see what you'd do. :lol:

Disclaimer* This may mean me getting my rear end handed to me.

 

[dethomas07]

Coach fired for not apologizing

I just thought I'd share.

David

 

[Adamsince1981]

Coach fired for not apologizing

I just thought I'd share.

David

The coach clearly lacks good decision making ability.

 

[Therion]

Coach fired for not apologizing

I just thought I'd share.

David

I think we have definitive proof that this was one of those .01% coaches. What a maroon.

 

[justinmandawg]

It's not Christlike. Jesus is a baseball fan.

 

[David T.]

Sometimes winning isn't everything.
I read this article in the local paper a couple of days ago.........

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/p ... 9901240341

David

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

:lol: And some of you are trying to say this isn't a result of PC B.S.!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


"We don't play to win, we play to have fun."~ Someone on the losing team. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Basketball, is a competition. If you don't want to compete and only want to have fun, play in a "non competitive league".... or stick to playing tea party.... or if you're just playing for fun, expect to have a good time losing.








:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It is truly a sign that sign country has gone mad.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

Sometimes winning isn't everything.
I read this article in the local paper a couple of days ago.........

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/p ... 9901240341

David

This is a nice gesture.... a nice story, but has nothing to with this topic. Thanks for sharing it though, I liked it.

 

[BunchOBull]

He was fired for insubordination, not failing to apologize. If he would have kept his mouth shut, he'd more than likely be fine...running to the newspaper isn't smart on his part.

In my business it would be the same...I've signed non-disclosure agreements to that effect.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

He was fired for insubordination, not failing to apologize. If he would have kept his mouth shut, he'd more than likely be fine...running to the newspaper isn't smart on his part.

In my business it would be the same...I've signed non-disclosure agreements to that effect.

I think you need to look up the definition of insubordination, chances are he was fired for refusing to apologize.


....."the same day he sent an e-mail to a newspaper saying he will not apologize “for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.”

Kyle Queal, the headmaster for Covenant School, said in The Dallas Morning News online edition that he could not answer if the firing was a direct result of coach Micah Grimes’ e-mail disagreeing with administrators who called the blowout “shameful.”

That or because he refused to go with the PC flow.

 

[BunchOBull]

lol alright bud...again, he ran to the newspaper like an idiot...

He had two choices...either apologize and be "PC," or keep his mouth shut...he did neither. He was insubordinate.

 

[justinmandawg]

lol alright bud...again, he ran to the newspaper like an idiot...

He had two choices...either apologize and be "PC," or keep his mouth shut...he did neither. He was insubordinate.

Coaches talk after games. What makes this different? Honestly I'm asking. I don't see this as insubordination by it's definition.

 

[BunchOBull]

His employer had gone on record as apologizing for the actions of its school representatives...in this case...it's girl's basketball coaches.

The head girl's basketball coach breaks away from the school's official statement and claims he does not include himself in Covenant's open-ended apology.

As a representative of Covenant, he has the obligation to fulfill the statement and mission of his employer.

He did not. Right, wrong, in between, he did not and the majority of people would lose their job for publically rejecting the official statement of their employer.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

His employer had gone on record as apologizing for the actions of its school representatives...in this case...it's girl's basketball coaches.

The head girl's basketball coach breaks away from the school's official statement and claims he does not include himself in Covenant's open-ended apology.

As a representative of Covenant, he has the obligation to fulfill the statement and mission of his employer.

He did not. Right, wrong, in between, he did not and the majority of people would lose their job for publically rejecting the official statement of their employer.

:| No, he does not have to agree with the OPINION of his employer.

as a matter of fact, isn't that a civil rights violation for firing him because he didn't share the same view? I'm just asking.

 

[Pete14Rose]

His employer had gone on record as apologizing for the actions of its school representatives...in this case...it's girl's basketball coaches.

The head girl's basketball coach breaks away from the school's official statement and claims he does not include himself in Covenant's open-ended apology.

As a representative of Covenant, he has the obligation to fulfill the statement and mission of his employer.

He did not. Right, wrong, in between, he did not and the majority of people would lose their job for publically rejecting the official statement of their employer.

:| No, he does not have to agree with the OPINION of his employer.

as a matter of fact, isn't that a civil rights violation for firing him because he didn't share the same view? I'm just asking.

He was told to apologize, he refused. Insubordination. Plain and simple.


While I commend the coach for standing his ground, they had every right to dismiss him.

 

[BunchOBull]

as a matter of fact, isn't that a civil rights violation for firing him because he didn't share the same view? I'm just asking.

First, Texas state law defines it as a work "at will" state...meaning a permanent contract of employment can be nullified for virtually any reason, or no reason at all, unless the reason is in direct violation of some civil right. The problem is, if no reason is given, it can become pure conjecture as to if the reason for termination is any violation at all.

However, in this case, no civil right was violated. By entering into a contract of employment with any employer, one is agreeing to represent the institution in the way it desires and requires to be represented. The employee is in effect an extension of the institution. By openly disagreeing (in fact, purposefully seeking out a venue in which to disagree) with his employer, the coach severed himself from Covenant.