miguelcabrera
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haters gunna hate. lofton is an all time great and i would build my team around him as my CFer
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haters gunna hate. lofton is an all time great and i would build my team around him as my CFer
I'm curious as to the rest of your lineup....haters gunna hate. lofton is an all time great and i would build my team around him as my CFer
id have to mull it over but for sure pedro martinez would be my pitcher and vinny castilla my 3rd baseman
id have to mull it over but for sure pedro martinez would be my pitcher and vinny castilla my 3rd baseman
Josh Hamilton.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? How the hell did Cobb NOT win this poll? Better yet, how does MANTLE have more votes than Cobb? Ugh, facepalms all around.
If I was making an all time team, it would be CENTERED around Tyrus Raymond Cobb. Hands down.
No disrespect to "dead ball" era players, but I have a hard time leaning towards them when the comparables are close. Guys who I respect that grew up in that Golden Age (1950's) all say that Mays was the greatest player they ever saw. As a product of the late 80's and 90's the Seattle version of Griffey was the greatest total package I saw. At this position you really can't go wrong.
Yeah, it's sad but I have done these types of threads before so I can't even say I am surprised by the results. Cobb and Mays should be 1 and 2, but it should have been a real close race between the two. Mantle (EDIT: AND Griffey) should not have rivaled Cobb in votes IMO.I chose Mays and Cobb as my picks.
Different eras and different styles.
But I do agree in the sense that the players from yesteryear are usually overlooked in these types of polls.
In the catcher poll, Roy Campanella recieved exactly 2 votes; the same as Gary Carter.
Campanella won 3 MVPs and threw out 51% of runners throughout his short career!
I agree with that, it was a different game in the dead ball era.No disrespect to "dead ball" era players, but I have a hard time leaning towards them when the comparables are close. Guys who I respect that grew up in that Golden Age (1950's) all say that Mays was the greatest player they ever saw. As a product of the late 80's and 90's the Seattle version of Griffey was the greatest total package I saw. At this position you really can't go wrong.
Mantle with the hangovers and the devistating knee injuries was Mays equal, many times better. Noone will ever know how good he could have been.Is (Mantle minus hangovers) > Mays?
While it was a different game I think Ty Cobb's career 168 OPS+ speaks volumes as to how good he really was compared to the rest of the players in his era.I agree with that, it was a different game in the dead ball era.
While it was a different game I think Ty Cobb's career 168 OPS+ speaks volumes as to how good he really was compared to the rest of the players in his era.
Not to mention with all of the power hitters on the team, you need to have some speed and a crazy good leadoff bat. On this team I see Mays as a #6 hitter.
Mays as a 6th place hitter??? The man has the fourth most HR in the history of the game, he lost a year to the war, played in a ball park that was unkind to right handed hitters and he faced Gibson, Koufax, Spahn and Drysdale on a regular basis. Plus he stole 338 bases from the three hole in the order and is widely considered the one of the greatest fielders to ever play the game. Even on an all time team, for me, he hits three, maybe even two because of his speed and smarts on the base paths.