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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game. You could still have contracts, but every loss loses you money from the contract.
 

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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.
 

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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.

They also guarantee that you no longer have to perform after you sign them.
 

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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.

They also guarantee that you no longer have to perform after you sign them.

Do they give you a raise at work in hopes that it increases your productivity? Or do you get the raise because of increased productivity?
 

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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.

They also guarantee that you no longer have to perform after you sign them.

Do they give you a raise at work in hopes that it increases your productivity? Or do you get the raise because of increased productivity?

I am going to go out on a limb and say close to 99% of jobs in our country are not paid with guaranteed contracts. No way I would ever compare any job I have had in any way shape or form with Major League Baseball.
 

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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.

They also guarantee that you no longer have to perform after you sign them.

Do they give you a raise at work in hopes that it increases your productivity? Or do you get the raise because of increased productivity?

I am going to go out on a limb and say close to 99% of jobs in our country are not paid with guaranteed contracts. No way I would ever compare any job I have had in any way shape or form with Major League Baseball.

So, you deserve to get paid fairly for the job you do. If you feel like you're an asset you negotiate a raise, right? Why do you feel athletes shouldn't be privy to the same rights?
 

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sportscardtheory said:
rookieaddict said:
sportscardtheory said:
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sportscardtheory said:
I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.

They also guarantee that you no longer have to perform after you sign them.

Do they give you a raise at work in hopes that it increases your productivity? Or do you get the raise because of increased productivity?

I am going to go out on a limb and say close to 99% of jobs in our country are not paid with guaranteed contracts. No way I would ever compare any job I have had in any way shape or form with Major League Baseball.

How much money do you make for your employer? How much money does a pro baseball player make for his? End of story.
 

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[quote="sportscardtheory":2afurnde]I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.

They also guarantee that you no longer have to perform after you sign them.

Do they give you a raise at work in hopes that it increases your productivity? Or do you get the raise because of increased productivity?

I am going to go out on a limb and say close to 99% of jobs in our country are not paid with guaranteed contracts. No way I would ever compare any job I have had in any way shape or form with Major League Baseball.

So, you deserve to get paid fairly for the job you do. If you feel like you're an asset you negotiate a raise, right? Why do you feel athletes shouldn't be privy to the same rights?[/quote:2afurnde]

Since when do 99% of Americans get to sign guaranteed contracts in their jobs? This is what I meant by not comparing ML Baseball players with everyday employees like myself. It doesn't make sense. I would get fired if I slacked off at work... after a baseball player signs a contract, he can do whatever he damn well wants and still get payed no matter what.
 

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I have no qualms with any human being trying to get as much money as possible in any legal way possible. It's the SYSTEM I can't stand. When a loser like Gary Matthews Jr. is making 10 million a season while guys 10X better than him make peanuts, it's ridiculous. The system is severely flawed, I don't think anyone can argue that. Players should be payed what they deserve, and with guaranteed contracts, that is rarely the case.
 

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[quote="rookieaddict":2bie55bv][quote="sportscardtheory":2bie55bv]I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game.

That is what happens. They start in the minors making very little. If they perform, they get rewarded. If they don't, they stay where they're at or get released. Guaranteed contracts are the product of performance.

They also guarantee that you no longer have to perform after you sign them.

Do they give you a raise at work in hopes that it increases your productivity? Or do you get the raise because of increased productivity?

I am going to go out on a limb and say close to 99% of jobs in our country are not paid with guaranteed contracts. No way I would ever compare any job I have had in any way shape or form with Major League Baseball.

So, you deserve to get paid fairly for the job you do. If you feel like you're an asset you negotiate a raise, right? Why do you feel athletes shouldn't be privy to the same rights?[/quote:2bie55bv]

Since when do 99% of Americans get to sign guaranteed contracts in their jobs? This is what I meant by not comparing ML Baseball players with everyday employees like myself. It doesn't make sense. I would get fired if I slacked off at work... after a baseball player signs a contract, he can do whatever he damn well wants and still get payed no matter what.[/quote:2bie55bv]

I understand what you're saying about guaranteed contracts. But, the fact of the matter is that is that everyone everywhere is paid based on previous performance & qualifications. Sports are no different. For most people to get fired it actually takes a act of negligence. The same holds true for athletes, and act of negligence will breach their contract. I refuse to think that the majority of players "mail it in". I do believe that players; in all sports, get paid more in their declining years than during their prime. But, the same is true in almost any business.
 

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did you just realize today that baseball players get paid more than most ppl
 

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David Cone i know for a fact signed a similar deal with the Kansas City Royals. I believe he is still getting paid from them. Those contracts are genius. Just incase you are bad with money, your basically set for life. I know there was another player who signed one of those deals. Can't remember but i know for a fact David Cone had a deal like that.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game. You could still have contracts, but every loss loses you money from the contract.

Vince McMahon tried this. It was called the XFL. It failed miserably. Didn't even make it into a second season.

And by buying cardboard pictures of players, watching games on tv, attending games, buying caps and jerseys, etc all contribute to these salaries. If you hate how much they get paid, then stop supporting the system.
 

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The Rockies paid Denny Neagle forever (idk if they're done).

He probably got atleast $1 million per start he actually made.
 

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Therion said:
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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game. You could still have contracts, but every loss loses you money from the contract.

Vince McMahon tried this. It was called the XFL. It failed miserably. Didn't even make it into a second season.

And by buying cardboard pictures of players, watching games on tv, attending games, buying caps and jerseys, etc all contribute to these salaries. If you hate how much they get paid, then stop supporting the system.

I can't remember one red cent I have spent in support of Bobby Bonilla and his contract. And even if I have supported the "system", it doesn't make it any less flawed. I like the sport of baseball, I'm not going to boycott it because mediocre players make insane amounts of money for doing nothing. It's just a messed up system. Anytime people make more than they are worth, something is very wrong.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game. You could still have contracts, but every loss loses you money from the contract.

Vince McMahon tried this. It was called the XFL. It failed miserably. Didn't even make it into a second season.

And by buying cardboard pictures of players, watching games on tv, attending games, buying caps and jerseys, etc all contribute to these salaries. If you hate how much they get paid, then stop supporting the system.

I can't remember one red cent I have spent in support of Bobby Bonilla and his contract. And even if I have supported the "system", it doesn't make it any less flawed. I like the sport of baseball, I'm not going to boycott it because mediocre players make insane amounts of money for doing nothing. It's just a messed up system. Anytime people make more than they are worth, something is very wrong.

They get paid what they are worth. Each player contributes to money generation. Without them, no money gets made by owners. If they were getting paid more than they helped generate, then their contracts would start to lower. It's simple economics. You might hate it but it's reality. Athletes get paid what they are worth. If you want to live somewhere that pays everyone on an arbitrary "worth" system, I hear Cuba is taking new residents.
 

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If you want to live somewhere that pays everyone on an arbitrary "worth" system, I hear Cuba is taking new residents.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Therion said:
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I would love to create a sport where only the winners are compensated. Imagine how amazing boxing matches would be if only the winner received payment. Imagine a UFC match where only the winner was payed. Imagine how amazing every baseball, football, hockey and basketball game would be if the losing team didn't get paid for that game. You could still have contracts, but every loss loses you money from the contract.

Vince McMahon tried this. It was called the XFL. It failed miserably. Didn't even make it into a second season.

And by buying cardboard pictures of players, watching games on tv, attending games, buying caps and jerseys, etc all contribute to these salaries. If you hate how much they get paid, then stop supporting the system.

I can't remember one red cent I have spent in support of Bobby Bonilla and his contract. And even if I have supported the "system", it doesn't make it any less flawed. I like the sport of baseball, I'm not going to boycott it because mediocre players make insane amounts of money for doing nothing. It's just a messed up system. Anytime people make more than they are worth, something is very wrong.

They get paid what they are worth. Each player contributes to money generation. Without them, no money gets made by owners. If they were getting paid more than they helped generate, then their contracts would start to lower. It's simple economics. You might hate it but it's reality. Athletes get paid what they are worth. If you want to live somewhere that pays everyone on an arbitrary "worth" system, I hear Cuba is taking new residents.

If you honestly believe every person is worth exactly what they are being payed, I don't know what to tell you. It must be a perfect world you live in.
 

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