The "Other" UCLA Pitcher

[Jaypers]

Trevor Bauer's line today - 129 pitches.

10 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 5 BB, 17 K's. Got the ND due to lack of run support.

We're talking one sweet crop of college pitchers this year.

 

[bear0555]

Bauer is simply amazing. Really well mannered and respectful young man as well.

 

[tm decomposer]

Absolute stupidity to let him pitch that long this early in the season.

 

[P_Manning 18]

Absolute stupidity to let him pitch that long this early in the season.

And that many pitches... you should have a 100 pitch count for every level until you reach the majors and your body can handle it.

 

[TomMurry]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

 

[P_Manning 18]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

 

[TomMurry]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

 

[P_Manning 18]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

 

[TomMurry]

[quote="P_Manning 18":rjrxsfj5]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.[/quote:rjrxsfj5]

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.

 

[IndyKMB]

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

::facepalm::

Pitches per inning, fantastic.

130 pitches in the first week of March is, ummm, unadvisable to say the least. If he's gonna let him do this now, how can he pull the kid after 85 pitches and a similar line the next time out? To save his arm? 130 pitches today says that's not a concern.

 

[TomMurry]

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

::facepalm::

Pitches per inning, fantastic.

130 pitches in the first week of March is, ummm, unadvisable to say the least. If he's gonna let him do this now, how can he pull the kid after 85 pitches and a similar line the next time out? To save his arm? 130 pitches today says that's not a concern.

Sounds like he was fully in control of the game. UCLA isnt exacly a DIII nobody school. Pretty sure the staff is capable of knowing when a kid is done. Doesnt seem like they were worried about "saving his arm." When you have time to rest, only throwing an average of 13 pitches per inning allows time for recovery between innings. Im not saying that I would recommend throwing that many, but if you're playing at that level for that kind of school, nobody is going to risk anything. For all we know he was throwing a load of changeups and sinkers. The less stress on the elbow/shoulder, the less fatigue you develop over the course of the game.

 

[P_Manning 18]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2c7m7eqi]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.[/quote:2c7m7eqi]

You're right. I have seen the error in my thinking.

 

[TomMurry]

[quote="P_Manning 18":brqkmfck]

[quote="P_Manning 18":brqkmfck]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.[/quote:brqkmfck]

You're right. I have seen the error in my thinking.[/quote:brqkmfck]

You can think anything you like, but theres a difference in thinking and knowing.

 

[P_Manning 18]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2sypgsml]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2sypgsml]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.

You're right. I have seen the error in my thinking.[/quote:2sypgsml]

You can think anything you like, but theres a difference in thinking and knowing.[/quote:2sypgsml]

Google is my friend.


http://www.mlbexpertanalysis.com/blog/?p=212

 

[TomMurry]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2apmhiyl]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2apmhiyl]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2apmhiyl]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.

You're right. I have seen the error in my thinking.[/quote:2apmhiyl]

You can think anything you like, but theres a difference in thinking and knowing.[/quote:2apmhiyl]

Google is my friend.


http://www.mlbexpertanalysis.com/blog/?p=212[/quote:2apmhiyl]

Sorry, you're grasping at straws.
You're trying to use an example of MAJOR LEAGUE pitchers and pitchers that threw OVER 230 INNINGS, neither of which are relevant here. Google might be your friend, but they let you down this time.

 

[blanning71]

Maybe he was throwing like 50 MPH?? Then 130 wouldn't be so bad. I'm sure that the coaches were keeping an eye on things. If the kid is grooving, let him pitch!

 

[TomMurry]

[quote="P_Manning 18"b0hvcib]

[quote="P_Manning 18"b0hvcib]

[quote="P_Manning 18"b0hvcib]

129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.

You're right. I have seen the error in my thinking.[/quoteb0hvcib]

You can think anything you like, but theres a difference in thinking and knowing.[/quoteb0hvcib]

Google is my friend.


http://www.mlbexpertanalysis.com/blog/?p=212[/quoteb0hvcib]

From YOUR OWN LINK...
"Does any of this prove that these shortened or disappointing careers were caused by the abuse at a young age? We would agree that it doesn’t. "

YOU=FAIL

 

[P_Manning 18]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2mp1142m]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2mp1142m]

[quote="P_Manning 18":2mp1142m][quote="GarkoCollector":2mp1142m]129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.

You're right. I have seen the error in my thinking.[/quote:2mp1142m]

You can think anything you like, but theres a difference in thinking and knowing.[/quote:2mp1142m]

Google is my friend.


http://www.mlbexpertanalysis.com/blog/?p=212[/quote:2mp1142m]

Sorry, you're grasping at straws.
You're trying to use an example of MAJOR LEAGUE pitchers and pitchers that threw OVER 230 INNINGS, neither of which are relevant here. Google might be your friend, but they let you down this time.[/quote:2mp1142m]

::facepalm::

Yea... Major League pitchers...usually means older than a college kid. You do realize that the college kid just turned 20?? You dont think that the extra use on the arm now might lead to issues later??

 

[P_Manning 18]

[quote="P_Manning 18":1e5jglk7]

[quote="P_Manning 18":1e5jglk7]

[quote="P_Manning 18":1e5jglk7][quote="GarkoCollector":1e5jglk7]129 pitches over 10 innings is fantastic

Mark Prior agrees with you.

Clearly you've never pitched at any level beyond little league.
13 pitches per inning is a tremendous rate.

Clearly you've never seen a pitcher destroy a career by throwing WAY too many pitches early in his career.

13 pitches per inning is good for 7 innings. Why on Earth does a college pitcher need to throw 130 pitches at such a young age.

Sorry, you dont know what actually destroyed their career, whereas I DO know what its like throwing 130 pitches.
You are 1000% more likely to hurt yourself with poor mechanics than you are throwing too many pitches. Thats a fact.

You're right. I have seen the error in my thinking.[/quote:1e5jglk7]

You can think anything you like, but theres a difference in thinking and knowing.[/quote:1e5jglk7]

Google is my friend.


http://www.mlbexpertanalysis.com/blog/?p=212[/quote:1e5jglk7]

From YOUR OWN LINK...
"Does any of this prove that these shortened or disappointing careers were caused by the abuse at a young age? We would agree that it doesn’t. "

YOU=FAIL[/quote:1e5jglk7]

Well I believe the article is talking about over using a young pitcher. Isnt that what were are talking about with the 20 year old UCLA pitcher?

ME=FAIL

 

[cjb9421]

ULTIMATELY ITS BEEN PROVEN THAT THE OVERHAND PITCHING MOTION IS TERRIBLE FOR ARM....PERIOD. ANY AMOUNT OF PITCHES TAKES A TOLL