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^THIS X2. Plus the fact that the Cards are his ex-team. Big chunk of prior Pujols collectors have no interest now that he's not a Card anymore. These Leaf Pujols cards will just water down the market for his stuff. I'm sure there's many more to come if the Ali/Rose pattern continues.

Pujols has signed a ton of cards over the years. Assuming Brian sticks to a similar formula as he did with Ichiro last season, there's no reason to assume they will water down prices.

And for those saying that the fact it is Leaf will mean lower prices, I'm not sure I agree. The Ichiro's from last season (especially Metal and Valiant) consistently sold better than Ichiro Sweet Spot Auto's from past years. IMO the clean design, the fact it is a singular player and not part of a large set, amongst other factors make these very popular selections.
 

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One also has to think that there will be many many more of these cards produced in the future.

It's the difference between unlicensed companies & licensed companies, and the reason why I despise unlicensed companies. Simple economics. Licensed companies pay the league for the rights to produce ALL of its players, therefor maintaining a reasonable balance of cards produced. Sure, the elite players get a quantity of additional cards, but the demand is there for the elite players vs the common players. An unlicensed company pays a single player (or two, or 3 etc) a pretty penny for their rights, and therefor must produce the hell out of that player or players in order to see a return on their investment. They would never make such an investment on a single product, so one doesn't have to think there will be more such cards - one KNOWS there will be. Premiere names like Pujols don't sell their rights cheap.

If I was a player collector that cared about the value of my player's cards, I'd cringe if I heard that a bottom tier unlicensed company signed my player.

It's clear that Leaf can't sell its draft pick product on the merits of draft picks alone, so why not can the draft picks, sign premiere players & sell their autographs? That's all they're really doing anyway...
 
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And the +5 or cross 5 just looks tacky. Now we know why he never added it before. Unless he thought he was adding #5.

What happened to Ichiro? was that just a 1 year deal?

He is in legends of sport, but yes, we are reupping for 2013..bg
 

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Take the money and run....
In this shaky economy - $500 is a great price for that card considering it's non licensed tacky looking card.

Older, better looking auto patch cards from other card companys have sold for about half that in the past few years

Tacky? Lol
 

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We are finished with Pujols after December 31st..

Ichiro plus a new player in 2013...bg
 

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I will say that this is one of the major problems with the trading card industry... Pujols autos cost manufacturers more than 200.00 each! I guess this is why it's hard for products to deliver values these days.

Ill buy every Pujols Patch back if prices stay cheap... BG
 

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It's the difference between unlicensed companies & licensed companies, and the reason why I despise unlicensed companies. Simple economics. Licensed companies pay the league for the rights to produce ALL of its players, therefor maintaining a reasonable balance of cards produced. Sure, the elite players get a quantity of additional cards, but the demand is there for the elite players vs the common players. An unlicensed company pays a single player (or two, or 3 etc) a pretty penny for their rights, and therefor must produce the hell out of that player or players in order to see a return on their investment. They would never make such an investment on a single product, so one doesn't have to think there will be more such cards - one KNOWS there will be. Premiere names like Pujols don't sell their rights cheap.

If I was a player collector that cared about the value of my player's cards, I'd cringe if I heard that a bottom tier unlicensed company signed my player.

It's clear that Leaf can't sell its draft pick product on the merits of draft picks alone, so why not can the draft picks, sign premiere players & sell their autographs? That's all they're really doing anyway...

You are something else..Pujols is not the reason people buy my draft product.. I think it is the 8 autos/box plus killer draft checklist..
Pujols is just a bonus..
BG
 

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You are something else..Pujols is not the reason people buy my draft product.. I think it is the 8 autos/box plus killer draft checklist..
Pujols is just a bonus..
BG

Time will tell BG, won't it? ;-)

ps: Pete Rose - just another bonus? lmao...

pps: I'm spot-on above, and you know it.

And why would you buy your own cards back? That would be a very silly business move.
 
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I will say that this is one of the major problems with the trading card industry... Pujols autos cost manufacturers more than 200.00 each! I guess this is why it's hard for products to deliver values these days.

Ill buy every Pujols Patch back if prices stay cheap... BG

:benson:

Does Topps, UD and Panini buy back cards that dont sell for what they think they should?
 

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If they believe in their product they would! The same way stocks get bought back by issuing companies, I would easily buy back any or all for beat of baseball!
BG
 

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Time will tell BG, won't it? ;-)

ps: Pete Rose - just another bonus? lmao...

pps: I'm spot-on above, and you know it.

And why would you buy your own cards back? That would be a very silly business move.

Maybe BG has an Alterior motive here. lmao
 

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Tacky? Lol

Glad I could make you laugh

Tacky : not having or exhibiting good taste: as
a : marked by lack of style : dowdy
b : marked by cheap showiness : gaudy <a tacky publicity stunt> <a tacky outfit>

Unlike your base card autos which were done with style,
this Pujols card design looks like a flag fron some unknown nation.

It's a baseball card... it should look like one...
 

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Time will tell BG, won't it? ;-)

ps: Pete Rose - just another bonus? lmao...

pps: I'm spot-on above, and you know it.

And why would you buy your own cards back? That would be a very silly business move.

With all due respect, I do not agree with you. These veterans are value adds.. Why does topps add legends? Because it adds value...

Again, not trying to be mean, but the times have left you behind.. Licensing is meaning less and less these days... And will continue to do so until I or someone else pushes the red button and tests the system. There will be a day when the entire licensing world blows up and is no more for cards.. You will see ..

BG

Ps- warren, the last time you acted like this we all saw how you never apologized despite being proven WRONG!
 
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I'm confused at how buying back a card you can produce for $200 for more than $200 is wise. Logistics might deem it easier but cash efficient it's not.

Also buying back your own product could be confused with an attempt at market manipulation.
 

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Glad I could make you laugh

Tacky : not having or exhibiting good taste: as
a : marked by lack of style : dowdy
b : marked by cheap showiness : gaudy

Unlike your base card autos which were done with style,
this Pujols card design looks like a flag fron some unknown nation.

It's a baseball card... it should look like one...

I love you man!
BG

Ps- we have had a large number of emails complimenting the design.. I guess opinions will widely..

However, I respect your opinion and hope future designs appeal to you more..
 
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Ichiro plus a new player in 2013...bg

Player collectors pray your guy doesn't win this lottery...

BG I was wrong last time & I apologized. I can say whatever I want & believe, and I believe I'm spot-on with all comments I've made in this thread.

Your Pujols patch autos are hitting Ebay with BIN's for less than you payed to make them. They're only going to go down from here. Go buy em up big fella.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-LEAF-M...0863200502?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20cc19dcf6

PS My business is fine, thanks for the concern though it's appreciated. :-)
 
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I'm confused at how buying back a card you can produce for $200 for more than $200 is wise. Logistics might deem it easier but cash efficient it's not.

Also buying back your own product could be confused with an attempt at market manipulation.

I was referring to the /99 common patches selling under 200.00..
They would be nice cards for best of baseball at that level...

I would have bought the /5 for my personal collection.. BG

Ps- manipulation is an issue when the motive is wrong, I can assure you I am merely recognizing an undervalued asset!
 
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