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bouwob

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scotty21690 said:
"No stickers on back"


Who the heck would pay over $20 for this? Crazy Nolan Ryan collectors....


I wouldn't have bid on it if there was a sticker on the back. Anyone want to sell blank press plates for cash, you now have an option. How could they possibly know that it was nolan ryan when there is no sticker and you cant see anything.
 

oiccup41

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I bought these three from him a couple of months ago. There is no sticker on the back but they look and feel like real printing plates.

brettplate.jpg

yazplate.jpg

2001_Fleer_RedSox_plate1.jpg
 

jbrown

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Brewer Andy said:
Nice finds oiccup41, at least you can make those out!

Aren't all printing plates backwards? (i.e. everything is reversed) Maybe I'm wrong but everyone I have owned has been that way.
 

GAbballplayer148

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jbrown said:
Brewer Andy said:
Nice finds oiccup41, at least you can make those out!

Aren't all printing plates backwards? (i.e. everything is reversed) Maybe I'm wrong but everyone I have owned has been that way.

I am pretty sure that the ones which are printed backwards are ones from chrome sets, something about the printing process makes it where the plates have to be reversed (It may be the other way around, but I do remember having 2 forwards facing plates and 1 reversed plate of my guy who was in BDP)
 

The_ReverendAct2

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oiccup41 said:
I bought these three from him a couple of months ago. There is no sticker on the back but they look and feel like real printing plates.

brettplate.jpg

yazplate.jpg

2001_Fleer_RedSox_plate1.jpg

i thought plates were reversed images. how can these be real?
 

RZimm11

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I've read a few posts about plates.

Chrome versions are reversed, base cards are not.

I'm not familiar with the printing process, but this has been brought up before. There is a good explanation somewhere by the Billy Ripken FF collector, I believe, about the process and why they are different.
 

MartinFFcollector

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Basically all Chrome plates are reversed. Non Chrome = "normal".

Here's how I understand it.

The images that are "normal" have been that way since the early 60's (earliest Topps plate I've seen). The plates we use at work, ones used to make newspapers, Beckett magazine plates that are often offered for sale etc are all the "normal" way. The reversed ones are for Chrome.

"Regular" facing plates were used to make non Chrome cards using an offset process - which means the ink (a primary color) is applied via the plate to a rubber roller - which now would be the "reverse" of the plate - and that is applied to the cardboard - and thus will look like the plate. That's how offset printing is done.Offset printing has the advantage of consistent high quality image production.

Reversed Image/Chrome plates- That means that the plate came directly in contact with the sheet as opposed to offset where the image is transferred from the plate to a rubber pad and then to the sheet.4-colors are required for C (Cyan), M (Magenta), Y (Yellow), K (Black) printing. 1 plate is produced for each run a card makes through the press - 1x for each color.

In 1993 Flair had a 6 color printing process adding Orange and Green.
 

mchenrycards

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GAbballplayer148 said:
jbrown said:
Brewer Andy said:
Nice finds oiccup41, at least you can make those out!

Aren't all printing plates backwards? (i.e. everything is reversed) Maybe I'm wrong but everyone I have owned has been that way.

I am pretty sure that the ones which are printed backwards are ones from chrome sets, something about the printing process makes it where the plates have to be reversed (It may be the other way around, but I do remember having 2 forwards facing plates and 1 reversed plate of my guy who was in BDP)

I am not a printer but I believe I read somewhere that an offset press does not require the reverse image. I could be wrong but I remember this somewhere
 

RL24

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Wherever this guy got these plates from, it was lucky for him. He has made thousands off the Hendersons alone....


Here's a good scan I have of chrome plates with non chrome plates...
06BowPlts1.jpg
 

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