Tim Lincecum Caught With Marijuana

[Watt]

Everything that predatorkj is saying is true!! I have the same college text book....

Thanked :lol:

 

[stlalways94]

I took the time to read this entire thread, and I am personally not surprised at the amount of users.

I personally do not use pot, alcohol, cigarettes, or any other drugs for that matter. The most addictive thing I "do" is coffee.

Is this because I am hell-bent on following the law at all times? No. It is because I have witnessed my Dad, as well as several close friends and other relatives get seriously screwed up by doing this sort of thing.

I am not going to offer an opinion about whether pot is addictive or not, safe or dangerous. I really don't know personally, I don't plan on ever finding out. I have heard stories, and have witnessed what it does (or doesn't do) to people. If anything has a chance of jeopordizing my well-being, my school work, or my athletic career, there is no way in heck I am going to take it. This is why I am personally surprised about Lincy using, because he should know the consequences set forth by the MLB, if nothing else.

I have several teammates as well as close friends that do this. I have no contempt for these people, it is just not my thing.

Just my $0.02.

-John

 

[Card Magnet]

When weed starts to improve your physique and gives you an edge, I'll view it as negatively as I do steroids.

You are missing the point.

There are many things that are performance enhancing. Let's start with water. A severely dehydrated player would definitely not perform at peak level. You can throw protein powder, watching tapes, lifting weights, etc. into the mix.

So, how do we decide what is acceptable for an athlete to use?

1) Whether it's illegal or not. If it's illegal, an athlete shouldn't use it.
2) Whether the MLB has a strict policy against it or not.

#2 was missing for the 1990's and the early part of the 2000's as evidenced by the fact there were no baseball sanctions in place against steroid use. So, the argument people used to nail guys like Bonds and other early users of steroids was the fact they were doing something illegal. And, as I noted at the time, if you want to attack players using that argument, that's fine. But, that means we should bring the hammer down on players who do anything illegal, like Lincecum in this case. That is what bodiaz is getting at.

If you take steroids you are using a performance enahancing drug. I can't believe you would say that water and weights are performance enhancing. I literally laughed out loud. There's a difference between things that are natural like water, hard work like weight lifting, and mental preperation like game tape. If you can't see that, I really don't know what to say. Any chemical concoction engineered to take control of your body and "improve" it is just wrong. It's different than a protein mix, because that's a natural thigns found in foods, and the body processes it, not the other way around. It's the same as a vitamin - just the natural contents of food packed into one place.

If you use weed, you're using a recreational drug. It doesn't improve your game whatsoever.

Steroids were also illegal in the 90s to present day.

 

[onehrk]

Honestly, just plain stupidity on his part for smoking while driving and speeding...

But then again, its not like he was doing crack or meth. Its weed..

But that is the danger with weed. It's not that harmful by itself, but it is a gateway drug and can lead to the use of more dangerous illicit drugs.

LOL, I'm not even going to touch that one. Totally false and unsubstantiated claim.

Psychological studies have shown that the typically progression is: alcohol -> marijuana -> other illicit drugs.

It has substantiation.

EDIT: I can find a few publications if you need them. I have no opinion on whether marijuana should be legal or not and I'm not against its recreational use whatsoever.

 

[rico08]

predatorkj again spouting off back-woods logic with a college text book in front of him. Your neighbors letting go of a couple rounds and you blame it on them smoking weed? No moonshine in the mix?
You were doing a presentation and found two conflicting studies? Why can't that be true for whatever psych book is in front of you?

Speaking of jokes, as a resident of California (more specifically Los Angeles) I could walk down Venice Beach, enter a clinic, and for a fee get a recommendation from an actual doctor that would allow me to purchase and smoke marijuana legally in the state of California. Insomnia, chronic back pain, anorexia, and stress are a handful of "medical" reasons I could present to the doctor.
Obviously, people take advantage of this system and that marijuana sold from dispensaries comes in a little blue medicine bottle IS A JOKE.
With the economic problems in California and the current CA governor/US President, I'm confident that I'll see the legalization of marijuana in my lifetime (I'm 24). Properly grown, taxed, and regulated, it would bring any state billions of dollars.

Gateway drug: You can find conflicting studies all day long, but whenever I've read the "gateway" studies they always lump in marijuana, tobacco, and alcohol as gateway drugs; not just pot.
Hallucinogen: It isn't. I, nor anyone I've known as ever once hallucinated while smoking weed.

Is marijuana safe? If you think burning and inhaling a plant, which releases tons of compounds other than sweet, sweet THC then you've never heard of a VAPORIZER.

 

[leatherman]

Ah, the weed thread.

It was bound to happen. It would never have lasted on the BMB for obvious reasons. But here on FCB, I can wake up to a 16 page discussion on marijuana use.

I would like a few more polls:
1. How many people were baked when they posted in the weed thread?
2. How many people were sober when they first read the weed thread, and then decided to go smoke a bowl?
3. How many of you have used resealable team bags to store weed?
4. How many of you are now going to use team bags to store weed?
5. How many of you are now jonesing because you are out of weed, you're reading about weed, but it's currently "dry" where you live?


David

 

[Card Magnet]

Ask, and I shall answer.

1. How many people were baked when they posted in the weed thread?
Not I.

2. How many people were sober when they first read the weed thread, and then decided to go smoke a bowl?
Not I.

3. How many of you have used resealable team bags to store weed?
Guilty when I didn't have a baggie.

4. How many of you are now going to use team bags to store weed?
If I still smoked, still would.

5. How many of you are now jonesing because you are out of weed, you're reading about weed, but it's currently "dry" where you live?
Not I.

 

[RL24]

maybe in 2010 products we will see a game used blunt card of Lincy

NICE!! It will be like A&G, to rip or not to rip? RIP IT!!!

 

[RL24]

Let me explain this again:

Who decides what is "cheating?"

1) MLB
2) The federal government (by declaring certain things illegal)

Not cheating: water, gatorade, video tapes, weights, Lasik

Cheating: corked bats, spitballs, etc.

Gray zone: steroids

I put steroids in the gray zone because although MLB "banned" steroids, they had no punishments in place. They were essentially complicit with steroid use, especially when home runs started bringing fans back to the stadium.

When this issue is brought up to defend the Sosas or Bonds of the world, the typical argument is that MLB didn't need a policy in place because steroids were already illegal. These players were demonized as horrible people because they were criminals who broke the law. Hence, if breaking the steroids law is such a bad thing, then using marijuana is equally bad because you are still using an illicit drug. But, the double standard is once again instituted as we see in this thread.

In my opinion, any steroid use before 2003 is not any different from Lincecum's marijuana use because MLB didn't have a rock solid policy against steroids before then. In effect, they condoned steroid use just like they condone drinking water during the game on a hot day or lifting weights in between games. Hence, before 2003, steroid use was illegal but not "cheating." Marijuana use today is illegal but not cheating as well.

Basically, many fans equate "performance enhancing" with "cheating" which is not correct. But, many simply can't comprehend this logic.

That's so awesome!! Have you raised any kids? Make sure that you explain not only that they shouldn't steal your car, but if they do they will be grounded for 2 months. Otherwise they will steal your car and claim innocence because there was no punishment laid out in advance. :?:


COMMISSIONER FAY VINCENT'S JUNE 7, 1991, MEMO

"The possession, sale or use of any illegal drug or controlled substance by Major League players or personnel is strictly prohibited.... This prohibition applies to all illegal drugs ... including steroids or prescription drugs for which the individual in possession of the drug does not have a prescription."


Steroids are "strictly prohibited". How is that "gray zone" at all? Just because he didn't specifically lay out what the punishment would be? Wait a minute... did I just try reasoning with a Giants/Bonds fan? oops

 

[RL24]

Jah Love

 

[RL24]

I'm fairly certain I'm more highly educated than you are.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

If you study high, you will get high grades! And a higher education!!

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

Ah, the weed thread.

It was bound to happen. It would never have lasted on the BMB for obvious reasons. But here on FCB, I can wake up to a 16 page discussion on marijuana use.

I would like a few more polls:
1. How many people were baked when they posted in the weed thread?
2. How many people were sober when they first read the weed thread, and then decided to go smoke a bowl?
3. How many of you have used resealable team bags to store weed?
4. How many of you are now going to use team bags to store weed?
5. How many of you are now jonesing because you are out of weed, you're reading about weed, but it's currently "dry" where you live?


David

I dont smoke weed anymore , i quit almost 3 years ago, but i did **** the ***** for about 6 years. Id love to answer your questions...

1. How many people were baked when they posted in the weed thread? I am living above the influence now. But if it was 3 years ago i would have posted stoned.
2. How many people were sober when they first read the weed thread, and then decided to go smoke a bowl? If it was 3 years ago, the thread would have made me want to go smoke.
3. How many of you have used resealable team bags to store weed? Have Done it before. I used to use the penny sleaves and seel them with a lighter.
4. How many of you are now going to use team bags to store weed? Use to back in the day. worked like a charm.
5. How many of you are now jonesing because you are out of weed, you're reading about weed, but it's currently "dry" where you live?

ahhh, one of the horrific situations i used to experience. i don't miss the fiending nights anymore. that was hell.

It's weird reading about all the pot stuff when your on the clean side as opposed to being a user. But tim really should have thought about his status in the sports world first. Maybe he was listening to Notorious BIG's "Going Back To Cali" and just forgot about the speed limit...

 

[Card Magnet]

Big Mac McGwire - Thanks for reminding me of using penny sleeves and a lighter :lol: Works just as good as the cellophane off a pack of cigarettes.

 

[darocker80]

I like how someone in the thread was making false accusations and weird examples when his only reference was a movie. And arguing against people who have had smoked.

And kinda OT but apparently there were 6-7th graders at a school in the bay area who got expelled for being high in class and having X and weed on them...baha

6-7TH GRADERS? You actually think this is funny? You have shown your immaturity now, this is just plain stupid. Medicinal use of marijuana is fine if it relieves the patient's pain. Any other use is just your Dealer's propaganda you are buying into. When you guys grow up and have responsibilities like homes and families then you will realize all this need a "getaway" is overrated.

100% serious......and i don't live in cities like oakland. its is a probem.

 

[Card Magnet]

I like how someone in the thread was making false accusations and weird examples when his only reference was a movie. And arguing against people who have had smoked.

And kinda OT but apparently there were 6-7th graders at a school in the bay area who got expelled for being high in class and having X and weed on them...baha

6-7TH GRADERS? You actually think this is funny? You have shown your immaturity now, this is just plain stupid. Medicinal use of marijuana is fine if it relieves the patient's pain. Any other use is just your Dealer's propaganda you are buying into. When you guys grow up and have responsibilities like homes and families then you will realize all this need a "getaway" is overrated.

100% serious......and i don't live in cities like oakland. its is a probem.

I started smoking cigarettes in like 6th grade, and smoked weed and drank for the first times in 7th grade. Assuming memory serves me right.
After school would let out, mmy little group would walk across the street to walk home, light up a cigarette, and go to my buddy's garage to **** up.

 

[AKT74]

Am I the only person who finds it hysterical that the guy who seems to have the biggest problem with weed on this post (predatorkj) is a huge Bagwell collector?

 

[Card Magnet]

Am I the only person who finds it hysterical that the guy who seems to have the biggest problem with weed on this post (predatorkj) is a huge Bagwell collector?

:?:

I don't call any incident where Bagwell was involved with marijuana. Now PEDs with Pettitte and Clemens yes, weed no. Must have missed that along the time line.

 

[AKT74]

I am not saying Bagwell smoked weed, but this guy is bashing anyone who doesn't agree with his anti-weed beliefs yet collects a know PEDs user. Sorry this just smells of hypocricy to me.

 

[All The Hype]

Its a misdemeanor. He got fined, not a big deal. Def not worse than steroids.....

and i wouldn't mind smokin it up with tim lincecum any day hahaha.

You are a complete tool.

 

[A_Pharis]

Something tells me smoking weed isn't the only thing darocker would like to do with Lincecum..


AMIRIGHT!?!?!