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bodiaz said:
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You really do not want to gamble with that much money! Do you know how many QBs have come into the league and looked good as a rookie only to bomb out?!?! The list is long! If he becomes Rick Mirer, you are screwed! Do not take a prospectors opinion on such a high dollar issue. A prospector is like a slot machine player who will put 2 grand in the machine with a car on top of it. The always look at the what if. Well 99% of the time the what if does not happen. You have a better chance to win that car than Matt Ryan being the next Peyton Manning! Stick with the solid investment!

The opinion of a Bonds collector is MUCH better than a prospector's opinon........ ::facepalm::

What does the greatest all around player in MLB history have to do with this subject? Quit following me like a little stalker, and get over the fact that Bonds is the greatest player your 2 eyes have ever seen! Deny all you want, that is fact.

Good one. I have NEVER quoted you in a post before, nor do I have any idea who the hell you are. All I know is that Bonds is the biggest cheat of all time.
 

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bodiaz said:
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You really do not want to gamble with that much money! Do you know how many QBs have come into the league and looked good as a rookie only to bomb out?!?! The list is long! If he becomes Rick Mirer, you are screwed! Do not take a prospectors opinion on such a high dollar issue. A prospector is like a slot machine player who will put 2 grand in the machine with a car on top of it. The always look at the what if. Well 99% of the time the what if does not happen. You have a better chance to win that car than Matt Ryan being the next Peyton Manning! Stick with the solid investment!

The opinion of a Bonds collector is MUCH better than a prospector's opinon........ ::facepalm::

What does the greatest all around player in MLB history have to do with this subject? Quit following me like a little stalker, and get over the fact that Bonds is the greatest player your 2 eyes have ever seen! Deny all you want, that is fact.

I'm the biggest Giants fan there is and I will defend Bonds based solely on love for the Giants but he wasn't the greatest all around player ever. That would be Willie Mays.
 

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Wrong. Bonds did whatevery one else was doing, probably including your boy Beckett! The reason for all the venom is because of his greatness! If the venom was because he broke the law, then you would show the same distain for guys like Nook Logan, Manny, Neifi Perez and all the hundreds of other roiders. Admit it, you hate Bonds because he was so great! You hate bonds because he has 7 MVPs, and noone else has more than 3! You hate Bonds because he is better than you.
 

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Wrong. Bonds did whatevery one else was doing, probably including your boy Beckett! The reason for all the venom is because of his greatness! If the venom was because he broke the law, then you would show the same distain for guys like Nook Logan, Manny, Neifi Perez and all the hundreds of other roiders. Admit it, you hate Bonds because he was so great! You hate bonds because he has 7 MVPs, and noone else has more than 3! You hate Bonds because he is better than you.
:lol: :lol:
 

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Wrong. Bonds did whatevery one else was doing, probably including your boy Beckett! The reason for all the venom is because of his greatness! If the venom was because he broke the law, then you would show the same distain for guys like Nook Logan, Manny, Neifi Perez and all the hundreds of other roiders. Admit it, you hate Bonds because he was so great! You hate bonds because he has 7 MVPs, and noone else has more than 3! You hate Bonds because he is better than you.
:lol: :lol:

hah i was thinking the same thing....NO SHAT he is better than us smart one, hes in the mlb
 

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Wrong. Bonds did whatevery one else was doing, probably including your boy Beckett! The reason for all the venom is because of his greatness! If the venom was because he broke the law, then you would show the same distain for guys like Nook Logan, Manny, Neifi Perez and all the hundreds of other roiders. Admit it, you hate Bonds because he was so great! You hate bonds because he has 7 MVPs, and noone else has more than 3! You hate Bonds because he is better than you.

You are probably the dumbest human being I have ever encountered. I do not usually insult people personally (usually just their dumb ideas) but you should be sterilized. I do not like any roider, not Manny, not Bonds, not Clemens, not Arod, none of them. I was a HUGE Clemens and Manny fan before finding out about their disgrace of the game. Granted I dislike Bonds, Arod, Sosa, Clemens, and Palmeiro the most, but it is because they lied about their use. At least Giambi and Pettitte had the balls to face what they did. You will now be added to be blocked list for being a complete and utter *********.
 

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The problem here is fans are just ignorant about what steriods do! They don't give you plate disipline or improve vision. I love how people just dismiss the fact that 90% of the Mitchell report were scrubs, but anyone who performed well are scumbag cheaters? Do you know 70% of the players busted since it has been a rule are pitchers? Where is the venom? Face it, the advantage is more mental than anything, and it is and was a level playing field. Only sore losers cry and call people "cheaters". Same thing with the Patriots haters that want to say Bellichek cheated. It is all sour grapes! The best man achieves greatness, the rest cry about it.
 

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And who cares if they came clean or lied? The guys that came clean were caught red handed and had no other option! If you got caught doing something, and you thought they couldn't prove it, you would lie too! It is human nature!
 

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Jays_Cards said:
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Wrong. Bonds did whatevery one else was doing, probably including your boy Beckett! The reason for all the venom is because of his greatness! If the venom was because he broke the law, then you would show the same distain for guys like Nook Logan, Manny, Neifi Perez and all the hundreds of other roiders. Admit it, you hate Bonds because he was so great! You hate bonds because he has 7 MVPs, and noone else has more than 3! You hate Bonds because he is better than you.

You are probably the dumbest human being I have ever encountered. I do not usually insult people personally (usually just their dumb ideas) but you should be sterilized. I do not like any roider, not Manny, not Bonds, not Clemens, not Arod, none of them. I was a HUGE Clemens and Manny fan before finding out about their disgrace of the game. Granted I dislike Bonds, Arod, Sosa, Clemens, and Palmeiro the most, but it is because they lied about their use. At least Giambi and Pettitte had the balls to face what they did. You will now be added to be blocked list for being a complete and utter *********.

I'm just curious. Do you put any blame on the owners and Bud? They clearly knew what was going on and "turned a blind eye". I'm not justifying the players I was just curious about your opinion.
 

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kdailey4315 said:
Jays_Cards said:
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Wrong. Bonds did whatevery one else was doing, probably including your boy Beckett! The reason for all the venom is because of his greatness! If the venom was because he broke the law, then you would show the same distain for guys like Nook Logan, Manny, Neifi Perez and all the hundreds of other roiders. Admit it, you hate Bonds because he was so great! You hate bonds because he has 7 MVPs, and noone else has more than 3! You hate Bonds because he is better than you.

You are probably the dumbest human being I have ever encountered. I do not usually insult people personally (usually just their dumb ideas) but you should be sterilized. I do not like any roider, not Manny, not Bonds, not Clemens, not Arod, none of them. I was a HUGE Clemens and Manny fan before finding out about their disgrace of the game. Granted I dislike Bonds, Arod, Sosa, Clemens, and Palmeiro the most, but it is because they lied about their use. At least Giambi and Pettitte had the balls to face what they did. You will now be added to be blocked list for being a complete and utter *********.

I'm just curious. Do you put any blame on the owners and Bud? They clearly knew what was going on and "turned a blind eye". I'm not justifying the players I was just curious about your opinion.

Absolutely. I think the owners/managers/Selig deserve a large amount of the blame. Just because they let it happen, however, does not justify it being done. I do think that the players used this to justify their actions, though.
 

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