Triple Threads time (2011 info)

[brouthercard]

People that complain about stickers really need to start considering the realities of the situation. Everyone wants on-card, so I'm pretty sure we can stop bitching about stickers, but consider this:

"Mr. Koufax, can we send you products every 2 months to sign and return to us within a couple of weeks?"
"No. I'll sign once and once only."

"Mr. Aaron, we've noticed that you haven't returned the cards we sent you, is there any way that you could get on that?"
"I seem to have misplaced them. Is there any way that you could send me a new batch?"

"Mr. Musial, stop eating the cards"
"Num, num, num, num"

That's why I would pay a premium price for, and for a chance to pull, an on-card autograph, especially multi-player signed on-card autographed cards. Do you know how tough it is to coordinate that?

No, Mr. Musial, not there, no.........

 

[Ty Hope]

The bottom line with stickers is this. Collectors don't give two craps about what the companies have to go through to get autos. At least I don't. I am paying hundreds of dollars for these products and I want QUALITY! And no matter what their reasons, stickers are NOT quality. They are a cheap, crappy looking way out. I'm sick of all the freaking excuses. I want on-card autos and I don't care what the companies have to do to get them. JUST FREAKING GET THEM!

 

[ChasHawk]

The bottom line with stickers is this. Collectors don't give two craps about what the companies have to go through to get autos. At least I don't. I am paying hundreds of dollars for these products and I want QUALITY! And no matter what their reasons, stickers are NOT quality. They are a cheap, crappy looking way out. I'm sick of all the freaking excuses. I want on-card autos and I don't care what the companies have to do to get them. JUST FREAKING GET THEM!

the sad part is, it's really not that difficult

of the 220,000+ baseball autos listed in Beckett, over 45,000 are on-card. That's just over 20%

so it can't be that damn hard!! especially when entire HUMONGOUS sets have been entirely on-card!!

 

[metallicalex777]

The bottom line with stickers is this. Collectors don't give two craps about what the companies have to go through to get autos. At least I don't. I am paying hundreds of dollars for these products and I want QUALITY! And no matter what their reasons, stickers are NOT quality. They are a cheap, crappy looking way out. I'm sick of all the freaking excuses. I want on-card autos and I don't care what the companies have to do to get them. JUST FREAKING GET THEM!

the sad part is, it's really not that difficult

of the 220,000+ baseball autos listed in Beckett, over 45,000 are on-card. That's just over 20%

so it can't be that damn hard!! especially when entire HUMONGOUS sets have been entirely on-card!!

Epiphany...what if the card companies CHOSE to start a product 2+ years in advance specifically for an on card product. That would give ample time...if you chose to do vets/stars and not so heavy on prospects you wouldn't have a "wait" for certain players and such. But I guess it is always about money/profit no matter what the customer is WANTING.

 

[ChasHawk]

The bottom line with stickers is this. Collectors don't give two craps about what the companies have to go through to get autos. At least I don't. I am paying hundreds of dollars for these products and I want QUALITY! And no matter what their reasons, stickers are NOT quality. They are a cheap, crappy looking way out. I'm sick of all the freaking excuses. I want on-card autos and I don't care what the companies have to do to get them. JUST FREAKING GET THEM!

the sad part is, it's really not that difficult

of the 220,000+ baseball autos listed in Beckett, over 45,000 are on-card. That's just over 20%

so it can't be that damn hard!! especially when entire HUMONGOUS sets have been entirely on-card!!

Epiphany...what if the card companies CHOSE to start a product 2+ years in advance specifically for an on card product. That would give ample time...if you chose to do vets/stars and not so heavy on prospects you wouldn't have a "wait" for certain players and such. But I guess it is always about money/profit no matter what the customer is WANTING.

and actually, according to Juddy, it doesn't even take that long, so wtf?

 

[metallicalex777]

The bottom line with stickers is this. Collectors don't give two craps about what the companies have to go through to get autos. At least I don't. I am paying hundreds of dollars for these products and I want QUALITY! And no matter what their reasons, stickers are NOT quality. They are a cheap, crappy looking way out. I'm sick of all the freaking excuses. I want on-card autos and I don't care what the companies have to do to get them. JUST FREAKING GET THEM!

the sad part is, it's really not that difficult

of the 220,000+ baseball autos listed in Beckett, over 45,000 are on-card. That's just over 20%

so it can't be that damn hard!! especially when entire HUMONGOUS sets have been entirely on-card!!

Epiphany...what if the card companies CHOSE to start a product 2+ years in advance specifically for an on card product. That would give ample time...if you chose to do vets/stars and not so heavy on prospects you wouldn't have a "wait" for certain players and such. But I guess it is always about money/profit no matter what the customer is WANTING.

and actually, according to Juddy, it doesn't even take that long, so wtf?

Sounds to me its the motivation to profit versus investing time and quality INTO a great product that the customer "asks" for. :? ::facepalm::

 

[George_Calfas]

Guys, lets be real. Athletes like other famous people do not have time to sign "on-card"; they are busy with more important things.

 

[ChasHawk]

Guys, lets be real. Athletes like other famous people do not have time to sign "on-card"; they are busy with more important things.

like sleeping with other famous people

 

[Ty Hope]

Guys, lets be real. Athletes like other famous people do not have time to sign "on-card"; they are busy with more important things.

:lol:

This cracked me up!

 

[Ty Hope]

Card companies are fully capable of giving us on-card products. We used to get All Time Fan Favorites, 05 Ultimate signature, etc. These sets kicked ass.

Unfortunately, it took the companies a little extra time and effort and they basically said "F that..."

That is all that is going on. We are being fed dog crap. And unfortunately, many seem to enjoy the taste...

 

[ChasHawk]

Card companies are fully capable of giving us on-card products. We used to get All Time Fan Favorites, 05 Ultimate signature, etc. These sets kicked ass.

Unfortunately, it took the companies a little extra time and effort and they basically said "F that..."

That is all that is going on. We are being fed dog crap. And unfortunately, many seem to enjoy the taste...

as I have said before, the level of mediocrity people are willing to settle for in this hobby/industry boggles my mind.

those same people wouldn't stand for the same BS from any mfg of any other product/service in the world.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

The bottom line with stickers is this. Collectors don't give two craps about what the companies have to go through to get autos. At least I don't. I am paying hundreds of dollars for these products and I want QUALITY! And no matter what their reasons, stickers are NOT quality. They are a cheap, crappy looking way out. I'm sick of all the freaking excuses. I want on-card autos and I don't care what the companies have to do to get them. JUST FREAKING GET THEM!

exactly, its fine with me because it just helps me save money and buy cards from when they were made to look good like the cards below, i will pay 150 dollars for a koufax 1999 sp chirography on card autograph before i pay 1 dollar for sticker graph and jersey material that may or may not have been used in a mlb game and may or may not have been worn by koufax

 

[Ty Hope]

A lot of what is going on is that more and more people rip just to resell on ebay. They know that sticker stuff will sell and dont care either way. At least that is what I have noticed.

How many people actually collect anymore?

This hobby sucks right now.

We have sticker autos, plates that weren't used, GU that is either "event used" or flat out fake, backdoored cards, trimmed cards, etc. I'm fed up with this garbage and demand better for what I am paying.

 

[masonphillip]

The one thing I'd love to see is another Nap Lajoie Bat Card, I'd love to snag one and the TT look so much better than the others he has out there like this one [phil:17ar924s]400201184857[/phil:17ar924s]

 

[caseya10781]

I just went through the checklist and am very excited about these:

David Price:
All Star Jumbo Sleeve Patches - TTASJSP-43
All Star MLB Logo Patch - TTASLM-48
All Star Jumbo Laundry Tags - TTASLT-45
All Star Patches - TTASP-50
All Star Jumbo Sleeve Team Patches - TTASJSTP-45
Relic Combos - TTRC-11 Lester/Sabathia/Price
TTRC-21 Kershaw/Lester/Price
TTRC-50 Koufax/Kershaw/Price
Double Relic Combos - TTRDC-16 Gonzalez/Posey/Price/Bautista/Buchholz/Castro
Unity Relic Card - TTUSR-200
TTUSR-203
TTUSR-206



When is release and what is a unity relic card?

Thanks,
Casey

 

[ljw29]

My contribution to on card vs sticker debate.

Local shop did a signing with two basketball HOFers for UD and one for Panini, also did a number of football players. One football rookie with patches/autos/etc damaged all his Contenders his rookie year by accident. Basketball Hall of Famer lost his Cards for Panini and spilled coffee on some UD basketball ones.

Much easier to ship the stickers.

And I will throw this out there as well local store did a signing with Ripken for one of the companies, Ripkens sticker price was $15 less than his on card one and this was true for few other athletes as well.

 

[ljw29]

Oh and one more thing can point to two NBA Hall of Famers that over a year ago claimed UD owed them major money and thats why they would not sign for them until they were paid, so UD had to roll out the stickers.

 

[cgilmo]

have you anti sticker guys ever considered that times have changed, and athletes are no longer willing to bend to the demands of an industry that now pays them less than ever?

The industry has much less money in it now than previous years, and as a consequence there is less motivation for the athletes to accomidate it.

 

[Therion]

have you anti sticker guys ever considered that times have changed, and athletes are no longer willing to bend to the demands of an industry that now pays them less than ever?

The industry has much less money in it now than previous years, and as a consequence there is less motivation for the athletes to accomidate it.

Oh please. Have you considered that the industry has "much less money in it now than previous years" because they've watered down their quality?

I will buy boxes and boxes of stuff with on card autographs. I have not bought a single box of a product with sticker autographs.

 

[ljw29]

have you anti sticker guys ever considered that times have changed, and athletes are no longer willing to bend to the demands of an industry that now pays them less than ever?

The industry has much less money in it now than previous years, and as a consequence there is less motivation for the athletes to accomidate it.

Oh please. Have you considered that the industry has "much less money in it now than previous years" because they've watered down their quality?

I will buy boxes and boxes of stuff with on card autographs. I have not bought a single box of a product with sticker autographs.

And no one makes you do that.

But if they put out less and jack up the prices they will have even less money to pay the athletes. And when you have guys charging less for Stickers and consumers spending less because of the economy or cards ending up damaged, you end up having to make decisions.