Bob Loblaw
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Kevbo said:
Hussein allegedly called for the execution of George Bush Sr.
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Hussein allegedly called for the execution of George Bush Sr.
All The Hype
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razorent said:
Thanks for the explanation, while I still don't feel that people like this should be included in card products, it is much more acceptable that he is paired with Bush and like you said, commemorates an event rather than a person.
Mighty Bombjack
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I wanted that Castro cut (and had a huge debate about it with MattinglyAlexander on the old boards-good times).
I wanted it even more after it was written all over in protest. It went from a historically significant piece to an art piece, and I thought it was very cool.
As for a Hussain/Bush cut, I'm not really interested in it as a collectible, but understand why some would be. I don't understand why someone would have a problem with its inclusion in a product, but then I don't understand the rationale behind many individuals' mindsets.
I wanted it even more after it was written all over in protest. It went from a historically significant piece to an art piece, and I thought it was very cool.
As for a Hussain/Bush cut, I'm not really interested in it as a collectible, but understand why some would be. I don't understand why someone would have a problem with its inclusion in a product, but then I don't understand the rationale behind many individuals' mindsets.
blitzerlover
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I'm a huge World War II history buff and I don't really see what would be weird about having a ****** signature would be. It'd be weird to have one in a baseball product would be. But, I don't see what the huge deal over owning one would be.
Buynhisellnlow
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ALL_THE_HYPE said:
You'd "love" to have a ****** auto?
Wow. Just wow.[/quote:2rug9gc9]
+1.
I'd love to PULL a ****** auto, so I can get that thing to eBay as soon as I could to get it out of my possession. However, the thought of owning it is somewhat repulsive.[/quote:2rug9gc9]
Agreed.
According to a quick internet search, Hussein is responsible for as many as 150,000 deaths. One Hundred Fifty Thousand.
And ****** is responsible for as many as 17 MILLION deaths. Think about that.
I have a hard time understanding how anyone could want an autograph of one of the most horrible people to ever walk the earth.[/quote:2rug9gc9]
Somewhere in the area of 100,000 of those were supported with U.S. GOV equipment and weapons with some events (particularly those relating to the Iran / Iraq conflicts) fully endorsed by the US GOV (to include the use of chemical weapons).
Look up the Al-Anfal campaign. At least 50,000 Kurds dead, the use of chemical weapons and then look at the U.S. response before, during and after. Also, note that the weapons used were directly procured from the U.S. GOV and we continued to supply weapons and support after the event.
All of the above information is unclassified and can be obtained through legitimate open sources. I know the intent of this isn't a history lesson but it boggles my mind how many people just take everything at face value - take the first small portions of information they can find and run with it without obtaining a greater perspective or the full picture.
I would have no issues with owning the Bush / Hussein Cut - I think it would be an interesting historical piece.
sdsportsfan1214
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Jeff N. said:
You'd "love" to have a ****** auto?
Wow. Just wow.[/quote:3vks68c1]
+1.
I'd love to PULL a ****** auto, so I can get that thing to eBay as soon as I could to get it out of my possession. However, the thought of owning it is somewhat repulsive.[/quote:3vks68c1]
As a huge history buff and owner of WW1 and WW2 memorabilia pieces it would be the cornerstone of my military memorabilia collection
sdsportsfan1214
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ALL_THE_HYPE said:
You'd "love" to have a ****** auto?
Wow. Just wow.[/quote:25n8t8f7]
+1.
I'd love to PULL a ****** auto, so I can get that thing to eBay as soon as I could to get it out of my possession. However, the thought of owning it is somewhat repulsive.[/quote:25n8t8f7]
Agreed.
According to a quick internet search, Hussein is responsible for as many as 150,000 deaths. One Hundred Fifty Thousand.
And ****** is responsible for as many as 17 MILLION deaths. Think about that.
I have a hard time understanding how anyone could want an autograph of one of the most horrible people to ever walk the earth.[/quote:25n8t8f7]
To each their own, I just think it would be cool to own such a historic cut regardless of what he did. having a cut auto of a guy everyone in the world reads and studies about is definitely something worth owning. i would never dish out huge money to buy one but the thought of owning his auto is debatable but not a problem in my eyes
matchpenalty
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Would love to see what card looks like? any pics BG.
Is Hussein legit autos hard to find.
Is Hussein legit autos hard to find.
Mighty Bombjack
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Buynhisellnlow said:
+1.
I'd love to PULL a ****** auto, so I can get that thing to eBay as soon as I could to get it out of my possession. However, the thought of owning it is somewhat repulsive.[/quote:r3bufewa]
Agreed.
According to a quick internet search, Hussein is responsible for as many as 150,000 deaths. One Hundred Fifty Thousand.
And ****** is responsible for as many as 17 MILLION deaths. Think about that.
I have a hard time understanding how anyone could want an autograph of one of the most horrible people to ever walk the earth.[/quote:r3bufewa]
Somewhere in the area of 100,000 of those were supported with U.S. GOV equipment and weapons with some events (particularly those relating to the Iran / Iraq conflicts) fully endorsed by the US GOV (to include the use of chemical weapons).
Look up the Al-Anfal campaign. At least 50,000 Kurds dead, the use of chemical weapons and then look at the U.S. response before, during and after. Also, note that the weapons used were directly procured from the U.S. GOV and we continued to supply weapons and support after the event.
All of the above information is unclassified and can be obtained through legitimate open sources. I know the intent of this isn't a history lesson but it boggles my mind how many people just take everything at face value - take the first small portions of information they can find and run with it without obtaining a greater perspective or the full picture.
I would have no issues with owning the Bush / Hussein Cut - I think it would be an interesting historical piece.[/quote:r3bufewa]
You are going to confuse and anger a lot people talking like this! Don't you know it's easier to think/talk in black & white terms?
This is very similar to the start of the huge thread on the Castro cut.
RL24
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So, it seems that some people would like to own a Saddam Hussein auto, while other people find it offensive; some people would like to own a ****** auto, while other people find it repulsive. You mean... different people have different tastes and opinions? When did this happen??
I'd be offended to pull a Barry Bonds auto from a baseball product, but I understand it's my opinion........ nobody else has to feel the way I do.
I'd be offended to pull a Barry Bonds auto from a baseball product, but I understand it's my opinion........ nobody else has to feel the way I do.
Mr.Whipple
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I collect WWII items also and have owned water colors down by ******. I would myself love to own a signature of his, But they usually go in the 10K+ range. Most are on documents and thats the reason why. A room in my house is dedicated to WWII and contains items from 10 countries. German items are the most valuable and are collected by people of many backgrounds. I myself have bought and sold German items to a local Rabbi. ****** is probably on the top 10 list of most significant people in world history. To not include him in a set with people of historical significance, Would make the set pointless to make.
sdsportsfan1214
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Marro said:
+1 ive seen some of those water colors and they are amazing items to own
I personally think its a good idea, it pushes the boundaries while telling a story.
My best friend was one of the first Marines in to Baghdad and they took one of Hussein's palaces. He actually has a 10 foot tall oil painting of Saddam that they ripped off the wall and he carried with him the whole time in Iraq. While the man was a disgusting maniac when you look at this painting you can feel history. Now it was somewhat defaced by some soldiers but to me personally that tells even more of a story. As I feel an autograph has also in a way.
My best friend was one of the first Marines in to Baghdad and they took one of Hussein's palaces. He actually has a 10 foot tall oil painting of Saddam that they ripped off the wall and he carried with him the whole time in Iraq. While the man was a disgusting maniac when you look at this painting you can feel history. Now it was somewhat defaced by some soldiers but to me personally that tells even more of a story. As I feel an autograph has also in a way.
I'd like to have the Pontious Pilate / Jesus dual 
But I have no problem w/a ****** auto. I'm sure people aren't crying if they pull a Bonds auto (it's a different set of circumstances, of which I'm COMPLETELY aware of).
I'd be thrilled to have a ****** auto. It's a piece of WORLD history. Like Kev said, good, bad, indifferent, it's history.
I'd love to see some company do a mobsters auto set. I'd **** everywhere for that
Oh, and IBL
But I have no problem w/a ****** auto. I'm sure people aren't crying if they pull a Bonds auto (it's a different set of circumstances, of which I'm COMPLETELY aware of).
I'd be thrilled to have a ****** auto. It's a piece of WORLD history. Like Kev said, good, bad, indifferent, it's history.
I'd love to see some company do a mobsters auto set. I'd **** everywhere for that
Oh, and IBL
55_marlins_sp said:I'd like to have the Pontious Pilate / Jesus dual
But I have no problem w/a ****** auto. I'm sure people aren't crying if they pull a Bonds auto (it's a different set of circumstances, of which I'm COMPLETELY aware of).
I'd be thrilled to have a ****** auto. It's a piece of WORLD history. Like Kev said, good, bad, indifferent, it's history.
I'd love to see some company do a mobsters auto set. I'd **** everywhere for that
Oh, and IBL
There where some mobsters in the UD prom cuts product. I would love a dual Gotti/P Castellano cut.
Anthony K.
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t3dudek said:
Sorry, that just made me laugh a little bit
pigskincardboard
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If you can't take a step back and put things into a historical perspective, rather than just "WINNERS vs. LOSERS" or "RIGHT vs. WRONG" you're not going to find any appeal to an autograph or any other document.
Also, seriously, Brian?
Are you still watching night-vision highlights from 1990 or something?
When the maker of the card can't understand the significance, maybe the signatures are better left uncut.
Instead of Bush's signature, maybe you should fill the slot with the bologna he stuffed down the throats of americans to justify the war.
Also, seriously, Brian?
Are you still watching night-vision highlights from 1990 or something?
When the maker of the card can't understand the significance, maybe the signatures are better left uncut.
Instead of Bush's signature, maybe you should fill the slot with the bologna he stuffed down the throats of americans to justify the war.
