Vintage and hall of fame patches

[16christensen16]

Here is my herb pennock, along with a Dom DiMaggio, Rick ferrel, and lefty o'doul

 

[IndyManning18]

Not a patch, buy I did just buy this.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/361098958160

 

[Zan]

Not a patch, buy I did just buy this.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/361098958160

I've seen this card before, very awesome

 

[16christensen16]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOU-GEHRIG-...143?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item541f2fd85f

this is amazing, we were just talking about this card and it now up on eBay! If I was 100%sure it was real I would make a run at it. I just have too many questions......??????

 

[George_Calfas]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOU-GEHRIG-2011-Topps-Triple-Threads-SPALDING-LOGO-TAG-JERSEY-PATCH-2-3-1-1-BGS-/361300482143?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item541f2fd85f

this is amazing, we were just talking about this card and it now up on eBay! If I was 100%sure it was real I would make a run at it. I just have too many questions......??????

I am confused as to why there is a question of legitimacy. Yeah, I get the serial number thought but it is still /3, it is an appropriate Spaulding Patch, and the patch extents under the diecuts and I to the adjacent windows.

 

[16christensen16]

I am confused as to why there is a question of legitimacy. Yeah, I get the serial number thought but it is still /3, it is an appropriate Spaulding Patch, and the patch extents under the diecuts and I to the adjacent windows.

I am not 100% sure it's fake, I may even be up to 90% sure it is real. I just remember seeing the 1/1 and another /3 that didn't have any stitching on them. If I'm going to drop 3-10k on a card I want to be 100% sure it's real.

i hope it is real, but how do you know for sure ?

 

[homerun28aa]

I am confused as to why there is a question of legitimacy. Yeah, I get the serial number thought but it is still /3, it is an appropriate Spaulding Patch, and the patch extents under the diecuts and I to the adjacent windows.

If it's a fake it's very well faked - but nothing you described is impossible for a good patch faker to do. I think there is a question of legitimacy is there because a lot of us come from the standpoint of if it's too good to be true it usually is. I don't know on this one, I would not say I'm 90% sure it's real like christensen. I was wrong before and wouldn't want to make a blanket statement here - but to me the proof would be closely examining this card in person.

 

[RStadlerASU22]

It's a frieken sweet card if its legit. Like I stated when we first discussed , there is just that spot where the stitching is thin in comparison to an auction of the Jersey I saw. But it looks like the fabric on the back came undone some , so maybe that's what happened..?? It would be nice to see 1/3 and 3/3 with it

Ryan

 

[homerun28aa]

It's a frieken sweet card if its legit. Like I stated when we first discussed , there is just that spot where the stitching is thin in comparison to an auction of the Jersey I saw. But it looks like the fabric on the back came undone some , so maybe that's what happened..?? It would be nice to see 1/3 and 3/3 with it

Ryan

This. The 1/3 and 3/3 would give us a much better idea - additionally to me at least examining the card in person would be huge. If this card was a plain pants piece and turned into this - we're talking about a $5K swing - when $5K is on the line people tend to get very creative.

 

[16christensen16]

This. The 1/3 and 3/3 would give us a much better idea - additionally to me at least examining the card in person would be huge. If this card was a plain pants piece and turned into this - we're talking about a $5K swing - when $5K is on the line people tend to get very creative.

I agree, I can't she'll out big bucks unless I'm 100%. Even if my gut says it could be Real. I want the card but I just can't risk it with everything on the line. If it is real and I miss out then it's my loss and I can handle that. If its fake and I drop 5k plus then I'm completely screwed

 

[16christensen16]

I want the card to be real because I would love to own it. If I knew forsure I would pay big bucks. Part of the reason I was willing to pay alot of money for my ruth quad barrel and my ruth jumbo absolute memerobilia tag card is I knew the cards were legit. Both upper deck and donruss had the cards advertised on their sell sheets. This gehrig was not advertised ahead of time like the two Ruth cards.

 

[homerun28aa]

I want the card to be real because I would love to own it. If I knew forsure I would pay big bucks. Part of the reason I was willing to pay alot of money for my ruth quad barrel and my ruth jumbo absolute memerobilia tag card is I knew the cards were legit. Both upper deck and donruss had the cards advertised on their sell sheets. This gehrig was not advertised ahead of time like the two Ruth cards.

You also have to remember that this is a 2011 card, in 2001 Topps may not have known how impossible it would be to get a full Gehrig tag and how expensive it would be for them to purchase that pants. This type of card has no business being in a Triple Threads product (if the tag is real). Also, I HIGHLY doubt that Topps would have cut up a Gehrig tag to use a single time in a product #/3 with the jersey window being that big. They would be much more likely to break this out into several 1/1 cards over multiple years IMO. As I said, if it's faked it's very well faked compared to the others, but when at least $5K is on the line people will get creative. I'm not saying it's fake but there is definitely reason to have some doubt about this piece.

 

[RStadlerASU22]

You also have to remember that this is a 2011 card, in 2001 Topps may not have known how impossible it would be to get a full Gehrig tag and how expensive it would be for them to purchase that pants. This type of card has no business being in a Triple Threads product (if the tag is real). Also, I HIGHLY doubt that Topps would have cut up a Gehrig tag to use a single time in a product #/3 with the jersey window being that big. They would be much more likely to break this out into several 1/1 cards over multiple years IMO. As I said, if it's faked it's very well faked compared to the others, but when at least $5K is on the line people will get creative. I'm not saying it's fake but there is definitely reason to have some doubt about this piece.

Triple Threads did also produce that Musial we have discussed where both sides of the booklet are complete prime tag pieces.

Ryan

 

[16christensen16]

Triple Threads did also produce that Musial we have discussed where both sides of the booklet are complete prime tag pieces.

Ryan

Valid point! However musial is considerably cheaper and much more product on the market then gehrig. It is also a 1/1 not out of /3

 

[homerun28aa]

Triple Threads did also produce that Musial we have discussed where both sides of the booklet are complete prime tag pieces.

Ryan

It's a valid point and to add to that Koufax has some SICK patches (no tags though from what I know) in Triple Threads and even Dimaggio appears to have some patch stuff in there that christensen posted that I had no idea was even in there. But a full Gehrig tag that perfectly fits in the window #/3 is just something people will be skeptical of, myslef included. I could also point you to other products that had prime Musial stuff but no prime Gehrig stuff. Again, you guys could be right and it may be real, but I would love to inspect the card in-person to make a final call.

 

[RStadlerASU22]

Valid point! However musial is considerably cheaper and much more product on the market then gehrig. It is also a 1/1 not out of /3

I understand both those points as well. Just saying they didn't take a cheap route w that card in TT.

Ryan

 

[16christensen16]

I understand both those points as well. Just saying they didn't take a cheap route w that card in TT.

Ryan

it's a shame we have to even debate it, but that is the reality. I want to bid, I just cant

 

[16christensen16]

Dimaggio, koufax, aaron all had great patches in the set. But neither of them had and tags to my knowledge. All of their stuff is rare, but not as rare as gehrig

 

[homerun28aa]

Dimaggio, koufax, aaron all had great patches in the set. But neither of them had and tags to my knowledge. All of their stuff is rare, but not as rare as gehrig

Aaron and Koufax were the main ones I think - they actually had quite a bit of prime material. But like you said nothing tag related and even if there was, I wouldn't see neither Koufax nor Aaron tags as proof that this card is real I think ultimately it couldn't be 100% unless you examined it in person and that's just the nature of the industry now with how good patch fakers have gotten on something this rare or valuable you really need to have definitive proof IMO

 

[16christensen16]

Here are my dimaggio from 2011 triple threads