What are your thoughts on the prices of Pujols Chrome autos?

[MallCopKJ]

Im seiously considering buying 1 as a longterm investment. The way this guy is playing and has been both this year and over the course of his career I think its clear to everyone at this point he can (or is at least on pace) make himself one of the best hitters ever. I wouldnt consider touching one until at least the offseason at the earliest but wonder if at this point its worth buying one at all. How high can the prices go? There are only 500 of them which really helps its value compared to all the variations of Chrome autos we have now. Do you think paying $2500 for one would really be a good hold? What are your overall thoughts on the card, prices and potential prices going forward.

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

There is only one way of buying this card, well as far as i am concerned. And that's graded. I should have bought one in the offseason. I saw BGS 9's going for about 2500$ ballpark. 1 thing is for sure with the Pujols Chrome, DO NOT BUY DURING THE SEASON. If i buy one i'am only gonna get a BGS 9 with 10 auto. That's my preference. I do not know the roof value that the card will climb, but you never know. If he ever gets popped for juice , don't say it is not possible then your long term investment is gone. But if his image stays clear, who knows. All i know is that i want a BGS 9 with 10 auto for my PC.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

There is only one way of buying this card, well as far as i am concerned. And that's graded. I should have bought one in the offseason. I saw BGS 9's going for about 2500$ ballpark. 1 thing is for sure with the Pujols Chrome, DO NOT BUY DURING THE SEASON. If i buy one i'am only gonna get a BGS 9 with 10 auto. That's my preference. I do not know the roof value that the card will climb, but you never know. If he ever gets popped for juice , don't say it is not possible then your long term investment is gone. But if his image stays clear, who knows. All i know is that i want a BGS 9 with 10 auto for my PC.

Your statement above is so very true (which is the key reason I have not purchased one for the long haul...within seconds you could lose half or more of your initial investment cost, just by the words hitting paper). I know it isn't a certainty (& neither is the possibility of an injury which could be just as devastating to your investment value) but with the way he is playing you can just bet that some jealous ******'s are gunning for him with steroid controversy! :?

 

[MallCopKJ]

Boy I really didn't factor the steroid angle into the mix as far as a longterm hold on the card. If Pujols cards ever went down like Clemens, the Chrome card might be worthless.

 

[thefasterblade]

I've considered it before, but one thing scares the **** out of me, steroids.

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

I've considered it before, but one thing scares the shat out of me, steroids.

+100

All it takes is 1 determined person to start digging. And before you know it, your 3k investment could be cut in half.

 

[ChasHawk]

They are expensive. /thoughts

 

[MallCopKJ]

Anyone catch Bud Selig on Mike and Mike? He spoke about Pujols having been tested since 2001 ( I think?) and that every test has come up with nothing. He said he has passed every drug test and how much of a shame it is that a great player like Albert is questioned due to steroids .........Then he mentioned theres still no way to test for HGH and you realize thats still a possibility :?

Knowing what a guy like Clemens cards were going for pre-steroid allegations its just scary to think of the dive Pujols COULD see in the future.

 

[craiger122003]

You know I hate mother exxers like Canseco and Bonds that brought
this crap upon us If you pay attention to details you will realize he is on the
path to greatness if you listen to his interviews and follow his foundation
he is very thankful and humble If I am wrong he has got me fooled bad
But in the long run I trust my gut and its says no effing way he is juiced

 

[craiger122003]

If I had 10 g's I would get 4 hold for 3 years and get 3500 each or hold for 5 and get more The big thing is him beinhg a FA after 2010 I really hope the Cradinals keep him but even a 25 per offer is a slap in the face if AROID is getting 30 per
If Albert were on the Skankees it would be 6000 per So I still see upside

 

[championMan]

Anyone catch Bud Selig on Mike and Mike? He spoke about Pujols having been tested since 2001 ( I think?) and that every test has come up with nothing. He said he has passed every drug test and how much of a shame it is that a great player like Albert is questioned due to steroids .

Barry Bonds never test positive & Bud Selig didn't even know AROD/Sosa test positive in 2003 until this year.

You know I hate mother exxers like Canseco and Bonds that brought this crap upon us If you pay attention to details you will realize he is on the
path to greatness if you listen to his interviews and follow his foundation
he is very thankful and humble If I am wrong he has got me fooled bad
But in the long run I trust my gut and its says no effing way he is juiced

I wouldn't blame this problem on Canseco/Bonds. Some ballplayer was looking for an edge and they choose to cheat the game. We all hope Albert accomplishment are real because it hurt the game that we love if these records are PED fakes. I actually believe that Rafael Palmeiro was telling the truth, when he waggle the finger IN FRONT Of CONGRESS on national TV. I was fooled badly instead. So far Canseco accusation have been more truthful than any ballplayer admitting to use of steroids.

 

[hofautos]

1. Don't buy cards for investment.
2. Who's cards are higher as they get older and stop performing?
3. What will happen to the value of his cards if he gets hurt?
4. Except for retired players, card prices are cyclic. High when performing and in news, and Low when not.
5. Now is a good time to SELL, not buy. His cards went down as low as $2,000, even when there WASN'T bad news, or slump, or hurt, or getting older. I am sure his cards will fall below $2000 first mediocre season, and below $1500 with a bad season.

If I had Pujols Chrome, I would not sit on it right now, I would MOVE it! There may be some short term upside, but the downside is a bigger fall, than the rise potential.

 

[bodiaz]

I Love Pujols! But that is a terrible investment! What happens when he gets popped for HGH or roids?! I don't care, because I know they are all using and that makes it a level playing field, but for some reason some fans, and more importantly the judgmental media cares! Look what happened to ARod! And do not tell me he is not using! He was a 13th round draft pick, and he is now a 260 pound Dominican!

 

[Codasco07]

To stick on the original topic, if you are looking to make an investment in Pujols, I think there are undervalued auto RCs that I would buy before the Chrome. Donruss Signature is /330 and sells for 400-500. They neared 1000 at peak (raw). It's ridiculous that the Sig. Series sells comparably to the SPx /1500. The SPx may be on card but there aren't many with nice signatures out there.

 

[thefasterblade]

I came so close this past off season a couple of times. Each time it was a BGS 9 and went for under 2Gs. Most people that I spoke to told me it topped out at 3Gs a few years back and didn't really see the economy allowing it to get back to that point. Boy, do I wish I just stuck to my gut and picked one up. I would have made over $1,000.00 on one at the point but, oh well.

As far as these cards going back down in the off-season, I cannot just expect them to drop back around the $2,000.00 range. People will have finished buying them for $3,000.00-$3,500.00 and will not want to get that big of a loss on it. Not all these cards were redeemed so the print run is a lot less than numbered.

Still, one notion of steroids and its over. And I do believe he isn't completely clean. Maybe right now he is, but as A-Rod found out, your past can reemerge at any moment.

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

I came so close this past off season a couple of times. Each time it was a BGS 9 and went for under 2Gs. Most people that I spoke to told me it topped out at 3Gs a few years back and didn't really see the economy allowing it to get back to that point. Boy, do I wish I just stuck to my gut and picked one up. I would have made over $1,000.00 on one at the point but, oh well.

As far as these cards going back down in the off-season, I cannot just expect them to drop back around the $2,000.00 range. People will have finished buying them for $3,000.00-$3,500.00 and will not want to get that big of a loss on it. Not all these cards were redeemed so the print run is a lot less than numbered.

Still, one notion of steroids and its over. And I do believe he isn't completely clean. Maybe right now he is, but as A-Rod found out, your past can reemerge at any moment.

I watched BGS 9's with 10 auto's all during the off season . RARELY did i ever see a 9 go below 2k. Ballpark was about 2200-2500. Def not bleow 2k. IF they were selling that low i would have one by now.

 

[thefasterblade]

I came so close this past off season a couple of times. Each time it was a BGS 9 and went for under 2Gs. Most people that I spoke to told me it topped out at 3Gs a few years back and didn't really see the economy allowing it to get back to that point. Boy, do I wish I just stuck to my gut and picked one up. I would have made over $1,000.00 on one at the point but, oh well.

As far as these cards going back down in the off-season, I cannot just expect them to drop back around the $2,000.00 range. People will have finished buying them for $3,000.00-$3,500.00 and will not want to get that big of a loss on it. Not all these cards were redeemed so the print run is a lot less than numbered.

Still, one notion of steroids and its over. And I do believe he isn't completely clean. Maybe right now he is, but as A-Rod found out, your past can reemerge at any moment.

I watched BGS 9's with 10 auto's all during the off season . RARELY did i ever see a 9 go below 2k. Ballpark was about 2200-2500. Def not bleow 2k. IF they were selling that low i would have one by now.

Might depend how early in the off-season you were looking. PujolsJunkie and I were eyeing them for awhile. One night he was bidding on one that ended for $1,875, but stopped bidding in the final seconds. I told him he should have kept going. They were all 10 Autos too. Really wish I would have bit the bullet. After that I could have picked up a couple for $2,000.00, but couldn't bring myself to front that much cash for a card. Grrr

 

[hofautos]

absolutely crazy high.
terrible investment. if looking for short term, buy in off season, and hope that next season is as good as this season...if he has just an average season they will decline....for longer term, buy as he starts to age, and no longer carries "hoopla status".

 

[HPC]

You can probably buy an SPX BGS 9.5 for around $1000 in the offseason, and that IMO is a much safer investment with more room to grow than the chrome.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

I generally agree with this. In today's market there are only two times to buy from an investor's standpoint: 1) before the guy is called up and he only has potential; and 2) right before he gets inducted and has fulfilled that potential.

Twenty years ago the only time people dropped serious cash on a player was right before he was inducted. Still the best strategy in my book.

1. Don't buy cards for investment.
2. Who's cards are higher as they get older and stop performing?
3. What will happen to the value of his cards if he gets hurt?
4. Except for retired players, card prices are cyclic. High when performing and in news, and Low when not.
5. Now is a good time to SELL, not buy. His cards went down as low as $2,000, even when there WASN'T bad news, or slump, or hurt, or getting older. I am sure his cards will fall below $2000 first mediocre season, and below $1500 with a bad season.

If I had Pujols Chrome, I would not sit on it right now, I would MOVE it! There may be some short term upside, but the downside is a bigger fall, than the rise potential.