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I hope the Indians don't trade him,but its hard to tell with them.I was just curious to what you think they could get for him.
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19braves77 said:A good lot of prospects considering the offers the Braves are fielding for Javier Vazquez.
Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
Indians look good on paper but they currently do not have a farm system to plug in a player once a role player or key contribitor gets hurt. Its been like this since since 2000. The Indians are where they are today because of their bad drafting and developing of players from trades.
19braves77 said:Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
rico08 said:19braves77 said:Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
Cliff Lee warrants these four players!? I don't know if that'd work even if you replaced "Cliff Lee" with "Roy Halladay."
ahill1 said:rico08 said:19braves77 said:Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
Cliff Lee warrants these four players!? I don't know if that'd work even if you replaced "Cliff Lee" with "Roy Halladay."
I don't see what everyone is talking about this being too much to give for a former CY Young winner....Davis is awful(though he may hit 40 HR's in a year...he may also strike out 200 plus times) Holland is going to be good given time as will Borbon, and Salty is decent...If a team wants a proven big league pitcher they have to give up a good amount
trevordchi said:ahill1 said:rico08 said:19braves77 said:Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
Cliff Lee warrants these four players!? I don't know if that'd work even if you replaced "Cliff Lee" with "Roy Halladay."
I don't see what everyone is talking about this being too much to give for a former CY Young winner....Davis is awful(though he may hit 40 HR's in a year...he may also strike out 200 plus times) Holland is going to be good given time as will Borbon, and Salty is decent...If a team wants a proven big league pitcher they have to give up a good amount
3 of those guys have star potential and another one has a chance to be a very good major leaguer. No chance Lee could get a package anywhere near that good.
Davis is NOT awful. Sure he hasn't lived up to expectations but he is still an elite "prospect". That package could get you a controllable ace. Cliff Lee has had 2 good seasons and 3 mediocre/bad seasons. He's doing well this year but he gives up a lot of hits. Replace Holland and Davis with 2 mid-tier not MLB ready prospects and you might have a chance.
19braves77 said:Indians look good on paper but they currently do not have a farm system to plug in a player once a role player or key contribitor gets hurt. Its been like this since since 2000. The Indians are where they are today because of their bad drafting and developing of players from trades.
kdailey4315 said:Is this an unbiased look at what the Indians can get for Lee or are you a fan and this is your WISH list? It seems like the latter to me. That is way too much to give up for 1 pitcher who has had 1 great season. It's been said before and I agree. Most GM's wouldn't do that trade for Halladay.
Bornagaincollector said:Where to you get 2 good seasons?He was 14-8,22-3,18-5 that 3 pretty good seasons.I agree thats to much to give up.He could have 8-10 wins rightnow if the bullpen wasn't so crappy....
Yeah with an ERA+ of 80....Great season there!! ::facepalm::Bornagaincollector said:trevordchi said:ahill1 said:rico08 said:19braves77 said:Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
Cliff Lee warrants these four players!? I don't know if that'd work even if you replaced "Cliff Lee" with "Roy Halladay."
I don't see what everyone is talking about this being too much to give for a former CY Young winner....Davis is awful(though he may hit 40 HR's in a year...he may also strike out 200 plus times) Holland is going to be good given time as will Borbon, and Salty is decent...If a team wants a proven big league pitcher they have to give up a good amount
3 of those guys have star potential and another one has a chance to be a very good major leaguer. No chance Lee could get a package anywhere near that good.
Davis is NOT awful. Sure he hasn't lived up to expectations but he is still an elite "prospect". That package could get you a controllable ace. Cliff Lee has had 2 good seasons and 3 mediocre/bad seasons. He's doing well this year but he gives up a lot of hits. Replace Holland and Davis with 2 mid-tier not MLB ready prospects and you might have a chance.
Where to you get 2 good seasons?He was 14-8,22-3,18-5 that 3 pretty good seasons.I agree thats to much to give up.He could have 8-10 wins rightnow if the bullpen wasn't so crappy....
I would like to see them lock him up,but i don't see that happening.I think the RedSox & Dodgers are going to make a serious attemp to get him before the deadline.