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Once considered one of the masterminds behind the Braves of the 1990s, the Rocker, left to go to the Baltimore Orioles and has since never been mentioned or heard from again. He was hands down considered the best pitching coach in baseball for years, but failed with the O's after just a half of season, I believe.

How does this happen? He should have gotten a job again.
 

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He didn't really fail with the O's. He didn't do as well as some hoped, but he didn't do terrible.
 

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he was announcing for a while after he got fired from the O's. he was AWFUL announcer, lol.
 

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My guess is he is retired and sitting in a rocking chair, with a big vat of sunflower seeds. I can imagine it makes his incessant rocking much easier on his body in a proper "rocking chair".
 

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Got an IP auto from him a few years ago, really nice guy. Wish he was still around the game but I hope he's enjoying his retirement.
 

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He failed with the O's. He was brought in there to take Daniel Cabrera, Guthrie and Bedard to the next level. He didn't do so. The team had like a 5 ERA and they cut him.
 

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thefasterblade said:
He failed with the O's. He was brought in there to take Daniel Cabrera, Guthrie and Bedard to the next level. He didn't do so. The team had like a 5 ERA and they cut him.

I actually think Bedard and Guthrie turned out better than they were projected. Bedard just can't stay healthy and Guthrie had a VERY strong first full season and a VERY strong end of season this year. He's going to be our ace next year and I'm okay with that.
 

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markakis8 said:
thefasterblade said:
He failed with the O's. He was brought in there to take Daniel Cabrera, Guthrie and Bedard to the next level. He didn't do so. The team had like a 5 ERA and they cut him.

I actually think Bedard and Guthrie turned out better than they were projected. Bedard just can't stay healthy and has NASTY stuff. Guthrie had a VERY strong first full season and a VERY strong end of season this year. He's going to be our ace next year and I'm okay with that.
 

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It's amazing how great coaches are when the talent level is top-notch, and then become poor coaches when the talent isn't there. Much like being a great baseball manager.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
It's amazing how great coaches are when the talent level is top-notch, and then become poor coaches when the talent isn't there. Much like being a great baseball manager.

I'm sure Torre has a great baseball mind but he wasn't considered anything special before taking the Yankee job. Now he's an all-timer.
 

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LLWesMan said:
200lbhockeyplayer said:
It's amazing how great coaches are when the talent level is top-notch, and then become poor coaches when the talent isn't there. Much like being a great baseball manager.

I'm sure Torre has a great baseball mind but he wasn't considered anything special before taking the Yankee job. Now he's an all-timer.
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
It's amazing how great coaches are when the talent level is top-notch, and then become poor coaches when the talent isn't there. Much like being a great baseball manager.

n his book The Baseball Economist, J.C. Bradbury titles a chapter, "How Good is Leo Mazzone?" Using statistical analysis, he analyzes whether Mazzone had a significant impact upon the pitchers that he coached. The sample is all pitchers who have pitched at least one year under Mazzone and one year under a different pitching coach. Bradbury found that Mazzone lowered the ERA of pitchers by an average of 0.64 points, and that after leaving Mazzone, pitchers' ERA increased by an average of 0.78 points. Bradbury believes that such an impact is deserving of Hall of Fame consideration.[2]
 

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