What if Razor Letterman = sent to you not in holder?

[kentuckyderby]

They were in scanned photo in holder that razor put them in
Sent to me just in penny sleeve with regular card holder taped arpund them for extra protection

How would you react?
What would be a reasonable demand?


Sending back and asking for shipping to send back reasonable?
Just live with it?
Thoughts please

 

[cgilmo]

bump down DSR's and gripe at him

 

[matchpenalty]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

 

[AKA Coastal]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

Yea, it wouldn't cost much. Thepit puts tamper proof sticker on their uncirculated cards now. It's real easy to tell if someone has messed with it.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

i personally wouldnt be mad, i have three pete roses and as soon as i received them i took them out of the cases that razor put them in, mainly because they are all scratched and smudged and i like mine in new one touches, if they are going to be put in a one touch at least put a team bag around it.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

 

[matchpenalty]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

Simple, I would prefer these type of cards that are packed out in holders like this not be messed around with. I would not buy one if the holder was tampered with or missing the seal (when they were packed out with one). Sometimes you see loose Topps retired autos, when they were all packed out in holders that had seals. Plus you also get idiots stuffing these type of cards into wrong sized holders, dinging corners, scraching surfaces. I just prefer in these type of products when stuff is encased to not be played around with.

 

[muchuckwagon]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

Simple, I would prefer these type of cards that are packed out in holders like this not be messed around with. I would not buy one if the holder was tampered with or missing the seal (when they were packed out with one). Sometimes you see loose Topps retired autos, when they were all packed out in holders that had seals. Plus you also get idiots stuffing these type of cards into wrong sized holders, dinging corners, scraching surfaces. I just prefer in these type of products when stuff is encased to not be played around with.

Keep in mind, some of the NPN's cards from that set were sent out without the uncirculated case.

 

[kentuckyderby]

Guy is confused why I might not be satisfied
He said I paid for 2 cards and got 2 cards
I tried explaining that the scanned photos have those cards in the certain holders that razor packe them in and that there is a reason why they are in those type of holders

If these were some normal -sized cards that could have a universal holder, I wouldn't made a big deal at all. This is not such a cut and dry situation

He said just go up to local shop and get 2 holders OR mail them back to him at my expense but he would then give me my .99 back for each card

Wonder if he took other Letterman out of holders and mailed them out

 

[mredsox89]

I can understand some disappointment but it doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to complain to the seller

 

[kentuckyderby]

I can understand some disappointment but it doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to complain to the seller

I complained and said I wasn't happy and what could be done to rectify it. I wasn't even sure what could be done (since $ amount so low, less than the shipping $) other than telling him it was a mistake to take them out if they were in the special holders in the scan
Seems like he isn't too concerned or thinks a missing holder isn't a big deal
I know it isn't life or death but rather it falls in the "it sucks" category
After realizing I paid $.99 for the 2 cards and $3.50 for the handling I will just let it die out and probably lower some figures in feedback

 

[mredsox89]

I can understand some disappointment but it doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to complain to the seller

I complained and said I wasn't happy and what could be done to rectify it. I wasn't even sure what could be done (since $ amount so low, less than the shipping $) other than telling him it was a mistake to take them out if they were in the special holders in the scan
Seems like he isn't too concerned or thinks a missing holder isn't a big deal
I know it isn't life or death but rather it falls in the "it sucks" category
After realizing I paid $.99 for the 2 cards and $3.50 for the handling I will just let it die out and probably lower some figures in feedback

I mean unless you are an avid collector and know about the letterman product, i wouldn't expect them to understand your problem. To most people, its just another card holder, no better than a regular toploader.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

Simple, I would prefer these type of cards that are packed out in holders like this not be messed around with. I would not buy one if the holder was tampered with or missing the seal (when they were packed out with one). Sometimes you see loose Topps retired autos, when they were all packed out in holders that had seals. Plus you also get idiots stuffing these type of cards into wrong sized holders, dinging corners, scraching surfaces. I just prefer in these type of products when stuff is encased to not be played around with.

you do understand they are just regular one touch ultra pro holders right, i can see your point if it had a tamper proof seal or something, but they dont, spend a dollar and by a one touch and you will be just fine, by the way you dont care if the case is all scratched up? because many of them are.

 

[kentuckyderby]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

Simple, I would prefer these type of cards that are packed out in holders like this not be messed around with. I would not buy one if the holder was tampered with or missing the seal (when they were packed out with one). Sometimes you see loose Topps retired autos, when they were all packed out in holders that had seals. Plus you also get idiots stuffing these type of cards into wrong sized holders, dinging corners, scraching surfaces. I just prefer in these type of products when stuff is encased to not be played around with.

you do understand they are just regular one touch ultra pro holders right, i can see your point if it had a tamper proof seal or something, but they dont, spend a dollar and by a one touch and you will be just fine, by the way you dont care if the case is all scratched up? because many of them are.

Just odd to take them out of the special holders that they were placed in

Wonder if it was to save on shipping?

Looks stupid having the other Letterman cards in the magnetic one-touch holders and then having these two odd ball ones by self (weh there was no reason to take them out)

Again, not life or death, just wanted to see if others thought it was odd, wrong, etc for the seller to do what he did

 

[KOBEARODLT]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

Simple, I would prefer these type of cards that are packed out in holders like this not be messed around with. I would not buy one if the holder was tampered with or missing the seal (when they were packed out with one). Sometimes you see loose Topps retired autos, when they were all packed out in holders that had seals. Plus you also get idiots stuffing these type of cards into wrong sized holders, dinging corners, scraching surfaces. I just prefer in these type of products when stuff is encased to not be played around with.

you do understand they are just regular one touch ultra pro holders right, i can see your point if it had a tamper proof seal or something, but they dont, spend a dollar and by a one touch and you will be just fine, by the way you dont care if the case is all scratched up? because many of them are.

Just odd to take them out of the special holders that they were placed in

Wonder if it was to save on shipping?

Looks stupid having the other Letterman cards in the magnetic one-touch holders and then having these two odd ball ones by self (weh there was no reason to take them out)

Again, not life or death, just wanted to see if others thought it was odd, wrong, etc for the seller to do what he did

well it was obvioulsy a big deal since you emailed the seller, like i said if you spend a dollar and put it in a one touch ultra holder and its the exact same thing.

 

[matchpenalty]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

Simple, I would prefer these type of cards that are packed out in holders like this not be messed around with. I would not buy one if the holder was tampered with or missing the seal (when they were packed out with one). Sometimes you see loose Topps retired autos, when they were all packed out in holders that had seals. Plus you also get idiots stuffing these type of cards into wrong sized holders, dinging corners, scraching surfaces. I just prefer in these type of products when stuff is encased to not be played around with.

you do understand they are just regular one touch ultra pro holders right, i can see your point if it had a tamper proof seal or something, but they dont, spend a dollar and by a one touch and you will be just fine, by the way you dont care if the case is all scratched up? because many of them are.

Yeah I understand where you are coming from. I just don't trust most EBAY resellers on ebay doing this. One reason I won't touch Letterman is they didn't put a seal on the holders. At least give people the option of whether or not they want it broken and busted out. A seal can't cost more than a couple cents at the most to slap on. Then let owners decide if they want crack them out. I sure hope Razor Inkworks Archives does it, it's least they can do with all the stuff now surrounding that release.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

I'd be pissed. I wish Razor put a tamper seal on the holder on those cards. At least then you know if someone took it out.

why would it matter if they took it out though, i guess i just am not understanding.

Simple, I would prefer these type of cards that are packed out in holders like this not be messed around with. I would not buy one if the holder was tampered with or missing the seal (when they were packed out with one). Sometimes you see loose Topps retired autos, when they were all packed out in holders that had seals. Plus you also get idiots stuffing these type of cards into wrong sized holders, dinging corners, scraching surfaces. I just prefer in these type of products when stuff is encased to not be played around with.

you do understand they are just regular one touch ultra pro holders right, i can see your point if it had a tamper proof seal or something, but they dont, spend a dollar and by a one touch and you will be just fine, by the way you dont care if the case is all scratched up? because many of them are.

Yeah I understand where you are coming from. I just don't trust most EBAY resellers on ebay doing this. One reason I won't touch Letterman is they didn't put a seal on the holders. At least give people the option of whether or not they want it broken and busted out. A seal can't cost more than a couple cents at the most to slap on. Then let owners decide if they want crack them out. I sure hope Razor Inkworks Archives does it, it's least they can do with all the stuff now surrounding that release.

so you think somebody would fake a razor letterman? i dont understand what your trying to say.

 

[kentuckyderby]

Kobe, letting one know that what they did was wrong does not mean you think it is a big big deal. Guess it comes down to definition of "big deal"

Just odd that he would take card out of holder and then mail it. Either he really valued that holder (the only value I have on holder is that it would be nice if all my Razor Letterman are in unform uniform holder) OR he wanted to save shipping somehow (fit better in his envleope)

Also, I think maybe the above dude says he would prefer seal not to avoid fakes but more of a reassurance that card wasn't handled, dinged up, etc

 

[matchpenalty]

Kobe, letting one know that what they did was wrong does not mean you think it is a big big deal. Guess it comes down to definition of "big deal"

Just odd that he would take card out of holder and then mail it. Either he really valued that holder (the only value I have on holder is that it would be nice if all my Razor Letterman are in unform uniform holder) OR he wanted to save shipping somehow (fit better in his envleope)

Also, I think maybe the above dude says he would prefer seal not to avoid fakes but more of a reassurance that card wasn't handled, dinged up, etc

Exactly KD, fakes has nothing to do with it. Also, if they did have a Razor seal on them I bet that seller wouldn't have pulled them out and sent them raw like that.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Kobe, letting one know that what they did was wrong does not mean you think it is a big big deal. Guess it comes down to definition of "big deal"

Just odd that he would take card out of holder and then mail it. Either he really valued that holder (the only value I have on holder is that it would be nice if all my Razor Letterman are in unform uniform holder) OR he wanted to save shipping somehow (fit better in his envleope)

Also, I think maybe the above dude says he would prefer seal not to avoid fakes but more of a reassurance that card wasn't handled, dinged up, etc

so matchpenalty, you wont buy the letterman because your scared they will be dinged up if someone takes them out of a one touch? but you buy cards that come straight from a pack and your not worried about them being dinged...

and as for the same holder as your others, why dont you just buy new one touches for them that way they will be the same and also will be brand new instead of scratched up.