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I just don't get it.

This guy is attracting prices that were once reserved only for prospect cards of players who were still in the minors.

Is the general collecting public now moving on to rookie logo cards?

Are people just simply sick and tired of all the years of bowman madness and disappointment?

I thought the economy was bad.

Does anyone have any explanations?

How in the world does a Chicago White Sox not named Frank Thomas get nearly this much hobby love for his "second" year card issues?

I'm also surprised his 2008 bowman draft "first card" really hasn't bumped up as much as his second year 2009 "rookie" cards.

Are the wise and brilliant baseball card prospectors turning into the meat-heads we call football card "investors"? I would be truly ashamed if this was the case...

This one simply baffles me.

Please help explain this phenomenon to me.

Sincerely,

More lost-er than Tiger Woods
 

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didnt we see this with longoria too?

i remember them sp auth and ultimate collection getting some serious cash

it def. has more to do with the "casual" baseball fans who sees another longo imo but that's just me

dave
 

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His MLB RCs have always had a following. But I don't understand why you seem so upset about it. Now its easier for you to pick up his earlier career issues.

But I was upset and a little surprised when I lost out on his Super for $800+, but I can see why it went that high...should've bid more :(

brouthercard said:
I just don't get it.

This guy is attracting prices that were once reserved only for prospect cards of players who were still in the minors.

Is the general collecting public now moving on to rookie logo cards?

Are people just simply sick and tired of all the years of bowman madness and disappointment?

I thought the economy was bad.

Does anyone have any explanations?

How in the world does a Chicago White Sox not named Frank Thomas get nearly this much hobby love for his "second" year card issues?

I'm also surprised his 2008 bowman draft "first card" really hasn't bumped up as much as his second year 2009 "rookie" cards.

Are the wise and brilliant baseball card prospectors/investors turning into the meat-heads we call football card "investors"? I would be truly ashamed if this was the case...

This one simply baffles me.

Please help explain this phenomenon to me.
 

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daveyou said:
didnt we see this with longoria too?

i remember them sp auth and ultimate collection getting some serious cash

it def. has more to do with the "casual" baseball fans who sees another longo imo but that's just me

dave

Yah, good point.

I guess the general populace sees him as the next Longoria, just as many prospectors in the mid-2000's were looking for the next Delmon Young.
 

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beckham is the new longoria
also his new cards sell high right at release and cool off quick
there are many out there myself included buying beckham
 

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I don't know, but his cards that "should" be $10 in the sets I'm building are $30+ consistently. I'm thinking it's because he was a good rookie with relatively few cards in a year with no real rookie standouts and few "it" cards. But people gotta buy something.
 

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daveyou said:
didnt we see this with longoria too?

i remember them sp auth and ultimate collection getting some serious cash

it def. has more to do with the "casual" baseball fans who sees another longo imo but that's just me

dave
Longoria's 2006 Bowman auto is still his consistently highest selling card.

Base Beckham Bowman autos are going for $30-40 bucks.

I agree that this doesn't make sense.
 

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uniquebaseballcards said:
His MLB RCs have always had a following. But I don't understand why you seem so upset about it. Now its easier for you to pick up his earlier career issues.

But I was upset and a little surprised when I lost out on his Super for $800+, but I can see why it went that high...should've bid more :(

brouthercard said:
I just don't get it.

This guy is attracting prices that were once reserved only for prospect cards of players who were still in the minors.

Is the general collecting public now moving on to rookie logo cards?

Are people just simply sick and tired of all the years of bowman madness and disappointment?

I thought the economy was bad.

Does anyone have any explanations?

How in the world does a Chicago White Sox not named Frank Thomas get nearly this much hobby love for his "second" year card issues?

I'm also surprised his 2008 bowman draft "first card" really hasn't bumped up as much as his second year 2009 "rookie" cards.

Are the wise and brilliant baseball card prospectors/investors turning into the meat-heads we call football card "investors"? I would be truly ashamed if this was the case...

This one simply baffles me.

Please help explain this phenomenon to me.

It's great for first year card collectors, the 2008 bowman draft issue is remaining relatively inexpensive.

It'll be interesting to see five years down the line if none of these guys really pan out (Longoria, Beckham) and perhaps there will be a shift back to cards of minor league players.

The 2006 Longoria issue, though not a MLB rookie logo card, still outsells the majority of the 2008 Longoria "rookies"- how can you explain that one?

Does no one want the 2008 bowman draft chrome Beckham even though it is equivalent to the 2006 Longo?
 

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makes me glad i pulled all 3 of thes eout of 1 retail box
GORDON BECKHAM 2009 TOPPS CHRMOE #214 (RC LOGO) (WHITE SOX)
GORDON BECKHAM 2009 TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR #214 (RC LOGO) (WHITE SOX)
GORDON BECKHAM 2009 TOPPS CHROME BLUE REFRACTOR #214 (172/199) (RC LOGO) (WHITESOX)
 

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bongo870 said:
makes me glad i pulled all 3 of thes eout of 1 retail box
GORDON BECKHAM 2009 TOPPS CHRMOE #214 (RC LOGO) (WHITE SOX)
GORDON BECKHAM 2009 TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR #214 (RC LOGO) (WHITE SOX)
GORDON BECKHAM 2009 TOPPS CHROME BLUE REFRACTOR #214 (172/199) (RC LOGO) (WHITESOX)

Nice, I love the blue refractors.

It's also funny your name is a fusion of the two main guys in this topic:

Beckham + Longo = Bongo!!!!
 

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brouthercard said:
uniquebaseballcards said:
His MLB RCs have


The 2006 Longoria issue, though not a MLB rookie logo card, still outsells the majority of the 2008 Longoria "rookies"- how can you explain that one?

because there are fewer of them and there are prospectors buying and selling them still
joe public is not all retarded they understand key card and first auto
 

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There is no way that I am going to believe that 2009 Unique
is a "key card" or "limited". That 1st sale is simply a product
of people with waayy too much money who have to have
the 1st card that pops for sale.
 

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Although I prefer order, I don't look for it in the hobby, probably because its really only useful in predicting sales. People simply buy what they like, but many people don't understand what they're buying. Casual collectors, who buy most cards, are easily influenced as we all know.

I happen to prefer the major league players and I think the hobby is shifting that way for now. It should make the Pro-Debut cards easier to pick up. Soon the hobby will shift in another direction, again led by manufacturers and sellers. We hardcore guys can see it all happening, and some of us hardcore guys here are big sellers and manufacturers...

brouthercard said:
It's great for first year card collectors, the 2008 bowman draft issue is remaining relatively inexpensive.

It'll be interesting to see five years down the line if none of these guys really pan out (Longoria, Beckham) and perhaps there will be a shift back to cards of minor league players.

The 2006 Longoria issue, though not a MLB rookie logo card, still outsells the majority of the 2008 Longoria "rookies"- how can you explain that one?

Does no one want the 2008 bowman draft chrome Beckham even though it is equivalent to the 2006 Longo?
 

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sportscardtheory said:
The Bowman Chrome Beckhams are not very limited like all these 2009s that are selling higher. There are a LOT of them for sale at any given time.

But production of the 2008 bowman draft product was as limited as the 2005. They made more 2006 bowman draft.

Therefore, there are actually equal or more 2006 Longos in circulation compared to the 2008 Beckham.

Longo had some more limited cards in 2008, but they never peaked quite as high as the 2006 Longo.

The 2008 Beckham madness is ridiculous compared to what his 2008 draft is selling for.

If all had gone as they should have, those Beckham 2008 blues should be selling for $400, not $150. The base chromes should be selling for $150, not $35.

It still doesn't make sense to me.

There might be fewer total Beckham cards out there compared to all the late season Longorias of 2008, but wouldn't that make the 2008 bowman draft Beckham more desirable as well? Why are we only seeing insane demand for his limited 2009 issues?
 

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brouthercard said:
sportscardtheory said:
The Bowman Chrome

It still doesn't make sense to me.

There might be fewer total Beckham cards out there compared to all the late season Longorias of 2008, but wouldn't that make the 2008 bowman draft Beckham more desirable as well? Why are we only seeing insane demand for his limited 2009 issues?

beckham collecters are looking to buy the next card
everyone that wants a 2008 has one or is only willing to pay what they are selling for
check beckhams hot new card a month from now i
 

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I'm not a prospector by any means, but I think people are just tired of bowman chrome, and are looking for a little more diversity in their collections. Granted the BC is the be all end all of RC's for a player, but I think there's just too much out there. The only real problems a player collector faces is trying to get his hands on a red ref or the superfractor nowadays, as there usually aren't 25 or more people actively collecting a player hardcore... and to be honest, I dont think casual collectors are striving to finish that rainbow like we do.

Ultimately, I think it's just the case of the RC logo finally working after all these years, and casual collectors are looking for the newest cards out of the next big thing, which in this case is Beckham. I think it's actually a good thing, as it means more people will break more cases of stuff that might of just sat unopened, for the chance of landing that Beckham base or parallel, which means more cards of my PC player might see the light of day....
 

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totran said:
brouthercard said:
sportscardtheory said:
The Bowman Chrome

It still doesn't make sense to me.

There might be fewer total Beckham cards out there compared to all the late season Longorias of 2008, but wouldn't that make the 2008 bowman draft Beckham more desirable as well? Why are we only seeing insane demand for his limited 2009 issues?

beckham collecters are looking to buy the next card
everyone that wants a 2008 has one or is only willing to pay what they are selling for
check beckhams hot new card a month from now i

Ah, so as starwarsfan has alluded to, perhaps it is Beckham player collectors or Beckham "mlb prospectors" driving up the prices for his mlb rookie logo cards.

So what once used to be hoarded (bowman draft singles) has now shifted towards first year logo cards, or "New age" prospectors, so to speak.

Perhaps what once used to be prospected has now since disappointed, so investors are now getting back into what may be a more sure thing, purchasing cards based on mlb performance rather than "what could be" or hype.

Interesting.

Do you guys think it's more player collectors, or investors who are driving these prices up? Are you purchasing Beckhams at these insane prices with the intention to resell, or are they for the permanent collection?
 

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I think Beckham has his own following that is driving the newer stuff market. Maybe there is a shift in the general population but I don't see it. We haven't seen numerous players show this new trend and until we do its nothing more than a player to player basis thing
 

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