what would you rather collect? bowman chrome!

[RANGERS25]

what would you rather collect? 1st year bowman chrome cards auto'd or non auto'd. or would you rather collect the cards right after that will have autos.

example:

07 1st year bowman chrome jason heyward card
or
08 bowman chrome auto jason heyward card

i am trying to become a great prospecter but i would like to get the experts advice as to which ones i really need to collect or just to hear people's thoughts as to which ones would be better to collect for investment purposes.

 

[caseumsd6]

what would you rather collect? 1st year bowman chrome cards auto'd or non auto'd. or would you rather collect the cards right after that will have autos.

example:

07 1st year bowman chrome jason heyward card
or
08 bowman chrome auto jason heyward card

i am trying to become a great prospecter but i would like to get the experts advice as to which ones i really need to collect or just to hear people's thoughts as to which ones would be better to collect for investment purposes.

07 Bowman Sterling. First year, and autographed.

 

[RANGERS25]

so you would collect if its not auto'd anyway? or does it have to be auto'd for you to get it?

 

[Jays_Cards]

I only do 1st year chrome..Investment wise, I think both 1st year non-auto and 2 year auto appreciate at a similar rate (assuming the player's cards appreciate ), but I MUCH prefer 1st year stuff.

 

[caseumsd6]

so you would collect if its not auto'd anyway? or does it have to be auto'd for you to get it?

It doesn't have to be auto'd. I have a lot of 07 Heyward, but I would much rather have his 07 sterlings. His 08 chrome autos to me are his second year cards so thats why I stay away.

 

[RANGERS25]

so autod and non auto'd. its better to get the stuff tht came out first as long as its first year.

 

[PaulKonerkbro]

what would you rather collect? 1st year bowman chrome cards auto'd or non auto'd. or would you rather collect the cards right after that will have autos.

example:

07 1st year bowman chrome jason heyward card
or
08 bowman chrome auto jason heyward card

i am trying to become a great prospecter but i would like to get the experts advice as to which ones i really need to collect or just to hear people's thoughts as to which ones would be better to collect for investment purposes.

no offense, but how old are you?

 

[RANGERS25]

22, the reason why i am asking is because of all of the confusion with sterling, chrome, and 1st years vs. second years. then what about auto'd and non auto'd. i dont really get the idea. i have some nice stuff but the reason why i have that stuff is because its first year and also because its texas rangers stuff. the whole idea im trying to get to is also between sterling and chrome. i want to know what will hold the value better.

AND IM ASKING THE EXPERTS BECAUSE THEY KNOW AND THE PEOPLE HERE ON FCB ARE HONEST AND I REALLY LIKE BEING ON THIS WEBSITE EVEN THOUGH I HAVENT BEEN HERE LONG.

 

[caseumsd6]

22, the reason why i am asking is because of all of the confusion with sterling, chrome, and 1st years vs. second years. then what about auto'd and non auto'd. i dont really get the idea. i have some nice stuff but the reason why i have that stuff is because its first year and also because its texas rangers stuff. the whole idea im trying to get to is also between sterling and chrome. i want to know what will hold the value better.

AND IM ASKING THE EXPERTS BECAUSE THEY KNOW AND THE PEOPLE HERE ON FCB ARE HONEST AND I REALLY LIKE BEING ON THIS WEBSITE EVEN THOUGH I HAVENT BEEN HERE LONG.

If a player has an auto in chrome and sterling, people will mostly choose the chrome because the auto is on card and not on a sticker. If a player has a non auto in chrome and a auto in sterling, then both will sell well. The chrome parallels will sell, and the autos will sell as well.

 

[moxacaine]

Its really whatever you prefer because both are good investments and you can make money on both.

 

[RANGERS25]

thanks and i sent you a pm. thanks to everyone who has responded to my question.

 

[Topnotchsy]

While most people will give you their personal preferences, it's way more complicated than that.

Originally a player's 1st year of cards produced by a MLB licensed company was considered his rookie card.

A few years ago MLB started sticking its nose where it didn't belong (not unlike the government) and messed things up (again, not unlike the government, but I digress.) In an effort to spruce up interest in the new releases, they said that a players rookie card would be the card that came out when he was in the Majors (a rookie.) The idea was that when the players were having their rookie cards before they were in the majors, few people knew who they were, and while they were great for prospectors, they did not really push products much, and when the player . If a rookie card could be pulled from current packs while the player was a hot rookie, the product would be red hot.

This backfired because most people still looked at the first year cards as rookie cards, and MLB did not stop Bowman (Topps) from producing cards from before the player was in the Bigs (all they did was made them call them "inserts" but that change almost nothing.

In the beginning few people were interested in the second year (RC) cards, but over time they got a bit of a following (especially when new people who were unaware confused them for rookies) and once the prices on some started increasing, prospectors began viewing them as investments (especially since the prices were sooooo low) and the prices increased.

Today you have a situation where many people still only like the 1st year cards, but the (RC) cards and especially the 2nd year cards that are the players 1st Chrome card, or 1st Chrome Autograph, get serious attention.

Is one a better investment than the other? You have to follow prices and watch trends. Personally I've stuck to 1st year cards as my years in collecting have me considering them rookie cards, and the others not, but I've seen some 2nd year (RC) cards shoot up and get far more percentage-wise than their "rookie" counterparts.

There is no easy answer, and the market is complicated. Listen, analyze, and study and you'll be able to make some sense out of things.

 

[RANGERS25]

im serious, thanks for the history leason. i will take that into account because i have a little bit of everything. the reason why asked with question was because i wanted to know which cards to sell and which ones to keep. now, if i only have one of a certain player, its a keeper. but i am widling down my collection the cards that i truly want and thats where the debate started because i find myself buying the cards that i truly want and want to keep. just wanted to get an idea and a direction for my collection. thanks and i appreciate the responses i have received.

 

[Topnotchsy]

im serious, thanks for the history leason. i will take that into account because i have a little bit of everything. the reason why asked with question was because i wanted to know which cards to sell and which ones to keep. now, if i only have one of a certain player, its a keeper. but i am widling down my collection the cards that i truly want and thats where the debate started because i find myself buying the cards that i truly want and want to keep. just wanted to get an idea and a direction for my collection. thanks and i appreciate the responses i have received.

I'm glad to help. I hope that my post cleared up a little.

As far as what to hold and what to sell, there's no reason to hold a card just because you only have one of the player. I've learned that when I can make good money on a player, it's time to sell completely and move on. True I might be leaving money on the table, but it beats the times when I was left holding a single card of a player that I could have made nice money on, and having to wait and hope that he gets hot again.

They say not to put all your eggs in one basket. On the other hand, if you spread out too much your looking at a situation where it's tough to make money. Look for players who you feel are getting less attention than they deserve (and these boards aren't necessarily the place to get advice on which players to invest in, as there's no way to know if the person giving it is offering real solid info, or is just parroting something they heard. Once you have a player take a look at his card prices and compare them to other players in similar situations. Determine which players are the best investments, then look at the various cards, and see which of those are looking cheap. Often Bowman Chrome lots (base chrome, unsigned) offer great returns when a player makes it big.) Pay attention to the market, and try to constantly learn, and the picture will become clearer.

Best advice I can give, question anything that does not make sense!!

 

[RANGERS25]

sounds great as far as i understand. i completely agree with you as far as selling the stuff away if its hot. i try not to spread around too much. i usually collect rangers and the guys that have good potential and also dont try to spend alot of money on the cards anyways. always looking for bargains and always looking around to make sure that i am getting a fair price and not going over the top just because someone thinks its worth more than it really is. i like collecting guys like Julio Borbon, Derek Holland, and a few other rangers. but i do have some price, laporta, collier, heyward, bumgarner, burgess, parker, villalona. so i guess im doing the best of both worlds. i guess im not into this for the money as much as having some of the great cards that i can find for fair or better prices.

my true gold is to hold on to a card and have it be like a pujols where it costs so much just to get your hands on his rookie card.

that is my true goal but i wont lie because i have made profit off of getting cards at reasonable prices and selling them when they get hot or just trading them away and getting awesome value for them.

thanks so very much and i will be talking to you soon about your thoughts on one more thing since i like the way that you pretty much laid it all out on the line. thanks.

 

[Incline Investments]

my true gold is to hold on to a card and have it be like a pujols where it costs so much just to get your hands on his rookie card.

Not trying to hate on that idea at all, but you that isn't prospecting per se.

 

[RANGERS25]

i understand completely and i dont worry about your opinion. i was asking to get people's opinions so i dont mind the critisizm at all. i wanted to hear what people think. i understand that its not TRUE prospecting. just that i would mind having a card in a couple of years that would be worth a good amount. you know what i mean? i have to think that most people think like this, if not, most people wouldnt be looking for the 1/1 SUPER. they could just deal with the base chrome 1st card. but people like the idea that they have a card that is worth more than others of the same exact card or person. just the card changes a little. and what its numbered to.

i dont have to have a super, wouldnt mind though, but i would like to have a card that i can say is one of my best without question, and without having to explain why the card is so good. just the idea of having a card that people say. "wholy smokes, you have a rookie card of that guy" is enough for me. but if it has color thats cool for me.

 

[Incline Investments]

Oh yeah bro I totally get what you're doing, that's cool.

In that case, absolutely go FIRST YEAR. All the 2nd-20th year stuff will blend together. There will only be one first year card.

Go with 2007 Bowman Sterling Refractor Autos BGS 9.5. Such a nice card.