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Just like deciding which Rookie card will be the BEST card for a player, you also need to decide which autograph card will be the BEST autographed card for that player.

Michael Jordan stuff is a great example to demonstrate this point. He doesn't have any rookie autographs so that throws the rookie auto card factor out the window.

Why would a Michael Jordan autograph card numbered to 23 sell for $15,000 versus $8000 versus $1000 versus $400. It's the same player, and look at that price difference!!!

I think the key will be choosing that exceptional autograph of that player that will remain popular with player collectors throughout the ages, and frequently, that popularity of that particular card extends to set collectors who need that card as well- that's when you see values maintain themselves.

So yes, there is a difference between what set the card is from and it comes back to supply and demand again. Why would one derek jeter auto/93 sell for $1500 and why would another sell for $100. The uniqueness/special attributes/popularity of the card matters a HUGE deal.

That's why I maintain that if the card of a certain player isn't a first year card, why does it really matter if the autograph is from his second year release or his twentieth year release? To me, it's all the same. I don't buy into this "it's his first autograph" argument when a player has mlb cards released previously. Throughout the player's career, they will have thousands of more auto options to choose from, and what was once hot yesterday will likely not be so hot when that next "need to have set" comes out featuring that player's auto.

The tricky part is picking what THE BEST auto card is, and it's a challenge, but I think most player collectors already know.....and those are the cards that will maintain their values the most.


It would be interesting to have multiple polls for different players and ask the members which particular card they feel is the "must have" for that particular player. Try Griffey for example- you may get ten different responses, but they will have a common theme that makes it a must have card for collectors- Ud 89 buyback auto, 1994 griffey/mantle? Probably something else I would never even think about, but it would be interesting to hear responses for griffey or jeter or other players who don't have autographed rookies. OR even non-rc Pujols- what would be THE autograhed card to have in your collection?

I've done this for MJ in the basketball section and it was interesting to see the responses.
 

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chashawk said:
Adam - I wholeheartedly agree with the examples you posted...but I'd take

this
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over this, anyday.
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For the "autograph" I would probably take the Leaf....but by far the Absolute for the card.

As it's been said (by you and others) it all depends on more than one factor.
 

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brouthercard said:
Just like deciding which Rookie card will be the BEST card for a player, you also need to decide which autograph card will be the BEST autographed card for that player.

Michael Jordan stuff is a great example to demonstrate this point. He doesn't have any rookie autographs so that throws the rookie auto card factor out the window.

thanks for your response everything you said makes sense. i collect for fun but i also try to keep an eye towards the future. i guess buy what you like is the best way to go
i told myself i would only buy 2006 and 2008 longoria cards. here comes 2009 and the ticket to stardom auto is a really cool looking sp auto so i bought 2. hopefully others down the road will think they are as cool as i do

another thing is common cards, 25 years from now will there be enough set collectors wanting 08 bowman chrome sets to make it worth storing?
[yes space is limited]
with todays knowledgeable card collectors will 2008 commons ever reach the status of pre 1960 cards?
i plan to sell all my cards when i turn 65 and roll around naked in my money collection. 29 years from now, ill post pics when the day comes
 

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totran said:
brouthercard said:
Just like deciding which Rookie card will be the BEST card for a player, you also need to decide which autograph card will be the BEST autographed card for that player.

Michael Jordan stuff is a great example to demonstrate this point. He doesn't have any rookie autographs so that throws the rookie auto card factor out the window.

thanks for your response everything you said makes sense. i collect for fun but i also try to keep an eye towards the future. i guess buy what you like is the best way to go
i told myself i would only buy 2006 and 2008 longoria cards. here comes 2009 and the ticket to stardom auto is a really cool looking sp auto so i bought 2. hopefully others down the road will think they are as cool as i do

another thing is common cards, 25 years from now will there be enough set collectors wanting 08 bowman chrome sets to make it worth storing?
[yes space is limited]
with todays knowledgeable card collectors will 2008 commons ever reach the status of pre 1960 cards?
i plan to sell all my cards when i turn 65 and roll around naked in my money collection. 29 years from now, ill post pics when the day comes

I doubt any base sets from today will be worth anything in the future- people will still desire autographs and game used more than base sets forever and ever.

Regarding Longoria, from an investment potential, his 2006 bowman draft chrome autos will ALWAYS be his most desired cards- there really is no debate there. Same goes with Pujols bowman chrome rookie auto.

It will be interesting to see down the line what particular Longoria autos player collectors will be going after. Once they have his 2006 bowman chrome autos and all the parallels, they may consider needing the ultimate 2008 longoria auto parallel/25 as an essential- it'll be neat to see as time goes by.
 

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Here is an interesting case of this concept.

Chris Marrero

2006 Bowman Chrome DP Base Card - very little value currently but it IS his first card.
2007 Bowman's Best Au - $2-4 for his FIRST AUTO but a 2nd yr card.
2009 Bowman Chrome Au - $7-11 for a base auto that is a FOURTH YEAR card

I don't really understand this except that the new hasn't wore off of the 09 Chrome Auto I guess.
 

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brouthercard said:
That's why I maintain that if the card of a certain player isn't a first year card, why does it really matter if the autograph is from his second year release or his twentieth year release? To me, it's all the same. I don't buy into this "it's his first autograph" argument when a player has mlb cards released previously. Throughout the player's career, they will have thousands of more auto options to choose from, and what was once hot yesterday will likely not be so hot when that next "need to have set" comes out featuring that player's auto.

I completely agree. I feel that removed from being a highly collected set, the 1st non-rookie auto; is the same as any subsequent auto and long term will not carry a premium.
 

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