When prospecting, how many colored refs is too many to own?

[tommyfro21]

I know many of you buy tons of base autos or base chromes of different players, but how many of each color refractor do you feel is just right when prospecting? I remember a long time ago someone said when it comes to gold refs and up, that 20% of the print run is great. Not sure what people say about blue refs though.

So how many of each do you like to buy?

How many is too many? Can it ever be too many?

I'm curious as to where everyone stands on this...

 

[autorook]

I like sticking to base because investment is low enough to make money over all. It's about quantity not quality. For example 10 base Jesus Monteros would make more money then say a Gold Ref Montero, bad example because I don't know what his goes for but you get the basic idea.

 

[tramers]

I only collect players i've met .

 

[aminors]

I agree. I stick to low-end investments. Base Chrome autos, refs, and maybe a blue or two.

 

[cmnkb8]

If you have the funds, you can never have too much color.

But if your funds are limited, stick to base, since the % ROI is generally higher. You'll need mass quantities to make a decent return, dollars wise.

I like to go for the rare color even though the %ROI is lower, since it's fewer cards to list for a higher dollar value. Yeah, I'm a lazy prospector

 

[tommyfro21]

I see what some are saying when it comes to autos, but when there is no auto, I think the color can produce a better ROI. Rarely do we see chromes sell like Strasburg or Heyward. Most seem to top out around $5 each.

Sometimes non-auto color refs can be a low investment too that can yield a great return.

If you have the funds, you can never have too much color.

But if your funds are limited, stick to base, since the % ROI is generally higher. You'll need mass quantities to make a decent return, dollars wise.

I like to go for the rare color even though the %ROI is lower, since it's fewer cards to list for a higher dollar value. Yeah, I'm a lazy prospector

 

[hawkfandan]

Just base autos for myself as well.

 

[All The Hype]

Honestly if you feel like you're buying at value prices (cheaper than they should be) or you're VERY confident about a prospects' cards going up, I am a fan of buying until they are out of your range. Doesn't matter what or how many, as long as they're within range, I'm buying.

If you're less certain or making a bigger risk, then you limit what you buy accordingly, keeping in mind how confident you are in the player.

 

[hive17]

I stick with base and regular refractors. If I'm going to acquire color, it'll either be from pulls or via trade. But that's strictly when we're not talking about Brewers. If it's a Brewers prospect, I'll pick up what ever I see.

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

If I showed all of my Wes Hodges Blue ref. Autos you would say that was too many LOL. I have about 30. I have one more of this guy coming so I guess 20% is a good number.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

more then 5 red refractors

 

[tommyfro21]

more then 5 red refractors

Sadly we have seen that happen. ::facepalm::

 

[aaron41984]

Honestly if you feel like you're buying at value prices (cheaper than they should be) or you're VERY confident about a prospects' cards going up, I am a fan of buying until they are out of your range. Doesn't matter what or how many, as long as they're within range, I'm buying.

If you're less certain or making a bigger risk, then you limit what you buy accordingly, keeping in mind how confident you are in the player.

I agree. I set a per card dollar amount to the various colors (or base autos) of the player I want to buy into and simply stop buying after they go above that number. I set an $80 limit on Cox Blue autos and bought from $55 up to the point where they went over $80.

 

[The_ReverendAct2]

Same I have not reached my limit

Honestly if you feel like you're buying at value prices (cheaper than they should be) or you're VERY confident about a prospects' cards going up, I am a fan of buying until they are out of your range. Doesn't matter what or how many, as long as they're within range, I'm buying.

If you're less certain or making a bigger risk, then you limit what you buy accordingly, keeping in mind how confident you are in the player.

I agree. I set a per card dollar amount to the various colors (or base autos) of the player I want to buy into and simply stop buying after they go above that number. I set an $80 limit on Cox Blue autos and bought from $55 up to the point where they went over $80.

 

[tommyfro21]

Well, amazingly, I just lost an auction that would have netted me my 7th 2010 BC Sonny Gray Orange refractor. Didn't think anyone else would bid on it but it only took one other person and they outbid me.

Oh well, guess I'll just be happy with my 6 Orange refractors, 6 Gold refractors, and 5 Blue refractors...

 

[shayscards79]

Depends on the player and how much money I have at the time. I try to make it a point to buy at least one or two colored refractors of any prospects I like and usually buy a bunch of base and regular refractors as well.

The only downside to buying a bunch of base and reg ref stuff is that you do have to buy a lot of them to make a decent profit. I have a friend that doesn't even bother with the lower end autos because he says they are too much trouble to keep and grade. He'd rather just buy blue, gold, orange and red all day. But then, again, you gotta obviously be pretty serious to drop that kind of coin.

 

[zdf123]

personally, i only buy color autos. just for the fact that i'm better off buying a couple nice color autos that i know will grade well than just buying a bunch of base autos. This is how i get around the fact that the %ROI is typically lower for color autos. i'm just too lazy to list a bunch of base autos, i find it hard to move about 30 of one player's cards especially if the market cools down on them

 

[Weatherwarrior]

I know your pain on being outbid an refractors of your prospect somebody keeps outbidding me on Auto's of Dillon maples and Henry Owens. And I understand the thoughts about Color Ref's and up but isn't the Return % wise about the same (except orange and up). I mean (example)buy a base auto at $10 and Sell at $15 50% ROI Buy a Blue Ref auto for $50 and Sell for $75. I mean if the return is about the same does it really matter whether you get Color Ref's or not? However Like some have already said I set a price i would like to buy at try to stay under that price point when it goes over I just move to the next auction.

 

[Yankees1218]

I usually go for about 3 base and 2 refs of each guy. If he's really cheap, i'll get a blue instead of a base.

I pick 10 guys, and do the above on them all. When i get to 5 each, i expand to 10. This is so i dont load up on one or 2 guys and have them bust while 2-3 of the lesser invested guys break out.

 

[glewis22]

I like sticking to base because investment is low enough to make money over all. It's about quantity not quality. For example 10 base Jesus Monteros would make more money then say a Gold Ref Montero, bad example because I don't know what his goes for but you get the basic idea.

Your wrong sir......its better to have the higher end item and sell it in one shot and it will go for more coin than 10 base - which in some cases you will break up and sell to a few people then you pay more for shipping etc.

There is so much more room for growth on the higher end stuff, the base, not soo much.