Which would you rather have? Harper vs. Myers

[GAbballplayer148]

Looking for opinions here. The deal has already been made, but I would like to hear other people's thoughts on this subject. Would you rather have a 2011 Bowman Chrome Bryce Harper Refractor Auto /500 or a 2010 Bowman Chrome Wil Myers Gold Refractor Auto /50? For what it's worth, the Harper had already been sent to get graded, and did not get a 9.5 (some people will say centered copies sell better, so it would make a difference).

I realize there is about a $30-$40 difference, but let's say they sell for the same just for the hell of it. (Harper $330, Myers $300)

 

[hive17]

I voted Myers, simply because I don't know how much higher the Harper could go (15% increase?), but the Myers screams double or triple if he produces in the MLB like he is in the minors.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I also like the upside of the Myers

 

[chompsmcgee]

Myers is a much bigger risk, although the short-term upside is the largest. If Myers becomes a legitimate stud in the majors that card could fetch near $1K. If he flounders that card can drop to $175 in a heartbeat.

Harper is much likelier to have a better career, win MVPs, and all that fun stuff that increases card values. The belief that there is a ceiling on Harper's value is shortsighted. If he lives up to the hype there's no telling how high his prices will go.

 

[hive17]

Harper is much likelier to have a better career, win MVPs, and all that fun stuff that increases card values. The belief that there is a ceiling on Harper's value is shortsighted. If he lives up to the hype there's no telling how high his prices will go.

That might be true, but he'll have to win a few MVPs for that to be true, and there's still no telling. Right now, the best player in the MLB, be it Braun, Kemp or Hamilton, doesn't fetch what Harper is getting. You are essentially arguing that he'll either be light years better than those 3, or he will sustain these massive prices despite average production.

 

[chompsmcgee]

That might be true, but he'll have to win a few MVPs for that to be true, and there's still no telling. Right now, the best player in the MLB, be it Braun, Kemp or Hamilton, doesn't fetch what Harper is getting. You are essentially arguing that he'll either be light years better than those 3, or he will sustain these massive prices despite average production.

How do Pujols' rookie auto prices hold up these days? How about Miguel Cabrera? Did Lebron outsell all his veteran counterparts his rookie year? Does he still outsell them today?

Seems like you missed the boat on my point. I never stated he'll have to be light years better than the guys you mentioned or sustain his prices despite average production. Those are things you inferred yourself through a misunderstanding of the concept. It's not appropriate to compare prices of Braun or Kemp to Harper because they weren't touted as the greatest prospect of all time before reaching their potential. Hamilton might have been there had he not taken a life detour, however.

Therefore, what we could potentially see with Harper prices is unprecedented.

 

[hive17]

How do Pujols' rookie auto prices hold up these days? How about Miguel Cabrera? Did Lebron outsell all his veteran counterparts his rookie year? Does he still outsell them today?

Seems like you missed the boat on my point. I never stated he'll have to be light years better than the guys you mentioned or sustain his prices despite average production. Those are things you inferred yourself through a misunderstanding of the concept. It's not appropriate to compare prices of Braun or Kemp to Harper because they weren't touted as the greatest prospect of all time before reaching their potential. Hamilton might have been there had he not taken a life detour, however.

Therefore, what we could potentially see with Harper prices is unprecedented.

Seems you can't make your point consistant. Cabrera and Pujols were NEVER hyped in the same way Harper was, so your using them to prove the point makes it invalid. Harper has been a cover boy since he was 16.

Furthermore, I guess you're saying that Harper and Pujols are on the same level. Quite a lot to ask; even the previous "super rookie", Griffey, couldn't live up to the hype.

So, you go ahead and bank on something that is "unprecedented" (in Harper), and I'll bank on something that has happened dozens and dozens of times in the last year (in a Gold Chrome auto of an elite prospect jumping in value).

 

[GAbballplayer148]

Wow, this turned into a very interesting debate. I'll go ahead and admit I sold my Harper Ref Auto, then used the money to purchase the Myers (essentially trading one for the other).

I essentially had the same thought process you have hive17. The ceiling seems much more limiting on the Harper than the Myers. When Harper first got called up, I think Ref Auto's went up to $450-$500, which would be (almost) the best case scenario for this card. If the Myers grades as a 9.5 (which it looks like it may) then it solidifies my stance a little more. I think the potential for the Gold to go up is much higher than the refractor at this point in time.

 

[Leaf]

Myers..

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Harper

 

[jbhofmann]

even the previous "super rookie", Griffey, couldn't live up to the hype.

3 video games over two different systems
630 HRs
All-Century Team
Numerous Signature Shoes

If any player does that in the next century I'll buy them a Coke.

 

[Simple8]

Myers

 

[ThoseBackPages]

does johnny blowhard even have any idea who Wil Myers is?

no, of course he doesnt.

 

[jbmm161]

I like both cards but the Myers being a possible BGS 9.5 Gold /50 versus an off center Harper Refractor /500 i think you have a better chance of ROI.
I think your ROI coming from it being more limited than the base refractor Harper.

The Harpers have gone up and down since being released and personally I think its going to take either a multiple HR game or consecutive HR games to
spike them back up. Myers has had a breakout minor league season and will most likely end up being a top 5 prospect next season.
The only concern I would have would be if Myers falls vicitim to the same huge hype/poor play cycle that plagues every KC Royal prospect
(Alex Gordon, Moustakas, Hosmer) so don't get greedy and flip it before he slumps.