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Who are the AL/NL MVPs so far in 2010

Who are the NL/AL MVPs so far in 2010?


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sportscardtheory

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PLEASE PICK ONE A.L. PLAYER AND ONE N.L. PLAYER.

Honorable mentions;

A.L. - Vernon Wells, Paul Konerko, Jered Weaver

N.L. - Jayson Werth, Barry Zito, Adam Wainwright
 

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numba1yankeefan said:
they have the CY Young award for a reason

Other than possibly Werth, who I mentioned, tell us who, besides Lincecum, Halladay and Jimenez, is more deserving of top-five voting for the MVP Award in the N.L.
 

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Im not really sure how it can be anyone other than Cabrera and Ethier so far.
 

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LLWesMan said:
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He might not be the guy but not having Pujols on here is comical.

He is having a pedestrian season. Just because his name is Pujols, doesn't mean he is raking.

Maybe pedestrian for his standards, but he's projected for .320, 35 and 126. Pretty good in my eyes.

I never said it wasn't good, but MVP?
 

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sportscardtheory said:
LLWesMan said:
sportscardtheory said:
LLWesMan said:
He might not be the guy but not having Pujols on here is comical.

He is having a pedestrian season. Just because his name is Pujols, doesn't mean he is raking.

Maybe pedestrian for his standards, but he's projected for .320, 35 and 126. Pretty good in my eyes.

I never said it wasn't good, but MVP?

I voted for Ethier.
 

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LLWesMan said:
sportscardtheory said:
LLWesMan said:
sportscardtheory said:
LLWesMan said:
He might not be the guy but not having Pujols on here is comical.

He is having a pedestrian season. Just because his name is Pujols, doesn't mean he is raking.

Maybe pedestrian for his standards, but he's projected for .320, 35 and 126. Pretty good in my eyes.

I never said it wasn't good, but MVP?

I voted for Ethier.

Same here, and Cabrera.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
LLWesMan said:
He might not be the guy but not having Pujols on here is comical.

He is having a pedestrian season. Just because his name is Pujols, doesn't mean he is raking.

His 7 HRs and 25 RBIs in the Cardinals' first 33 games projects to 34 HRs and 123 RBIs for the season. He is batting .320 with an OPS+ of 160 and the Cardinals are in first place.

He has averaged .334 with 41 HRs and 124 RBIs in his first 9 seasons, with an OPS+ of 172, finishing in the top 3 in MVP voting in 7 of those 9 years (finished 4th and 9th the other two seasons). Clearly, his projected numbers, along with the Cardinals in first place, is deserving of his placement on a list of 5 potential NL MVP candidates.

Don't change your poll now, or all the votes will be lost, but he should be on the poll, for sure. Remember, MVP voters give priority to guys on first place teams. Although Ethier has the best numbers, the Dodgers currently have a losing record, which would most certainly cost him some MVP votes.

Now, if the poll was "Who is having the best season?", that is a different story.


David
 

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leatherman said:
sportscardtheory said:
LLWesMan said:
He might not be the guy but not having Pujols on here is comical.

He is having a pedestrian season. Just because his name is Pujols, doesn't mean he is raking.

His 7 HRs and 25 RBIs in the Cardinals' first 33 games projects to 34 HRs and 123 RBIs for the season. He is batting .320 with an OPS+ of 160 and the Cardinals are in first place.

He has averaged .334 with 41 HRs and 124 RBIs in his first 9 seasons, with an OPS+ of 172, finishing in the top 3 in MVP voting in 7 of those 9 years (finished 4th and 9th the other two seasons). Clearly, his projected numbers, along with the Cardinals in first place, is deserving of his placement on a list of 5 potential NL MVP candidates.

Don't change your poll now, or all the votes will be lost, but he should be on the poll, for sure. Remember, MVP voters give priority to guys on first place teams. Although Ethier has the best numbers, the Dodgers currently have a losing record, which would most certainly cost him some MVP votes.

Now, if the poll was "Who is having the best season?", that is a different story.


David

"So far" in the league, he is not the MVP or even in the top-five. The poll isn't "Who will win the MVP Award".
 

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anyone who selects someone besides Ethier for the NL MVP at this point is a complete moron.
 

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I don't expect anyone to agree with me, my vote goes to R. Soriano. He has 8 saves and a Win. The knock on the Rays gonig into this season was their bullpen, and he has been great for the first place Rays.

A few weeks ago my vote would have been Cano, but he has cooled off some
 

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Dodgers are below .500 and would not make the playoffs if they started today. Many people do not vote for someone whose team is not in the playoffs which is one of the reasons Ethier is not running away with this.

vetsgt02 said:
anyone who selects someone besides Ethier for the NL MVP at this point is a complete moron.
 

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Huffamaniac said:
Dodgers are below .500 and would not make the playoffs if they started today. Many people do not vote for someone whose team is not in the playoffs which is one of the reasons Ethier is not running away with this.

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anyone who selects someone besides Ethier for the NL MVP at this point is a complete moron.

...And people NEVER vote for closers. While Soriano has definitely solidified the back end of the Rays pen, he is not in the top 3 most valuable players on his own team.
 

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Jays_Cards said:
Huffamaniac said:
Dodgers are below .500 and would not make the playoffs if they started today. Many people do not vote for someone whose team is not in the playoffs which is one of the reasons Ethier is not running away with this.

vetsgt02 said:
anyone who selects someone besides Ethier for the NL MVP at this point is a complete moron.

...And people NEVER vote for closers. While Soriano has definitely solidified the back end of the Rays pen, he is not in the top 3 most valuable players on his own team.


Of course people do not vote for closeers for MVP that is what the Cy Young is for.
 

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That is not true. I know for a fact Mark Davis was 6th in the MVP voting in 1989 when he won the CY Young. Eckersly ahs been in the top 5 a few years in the late 80's to early 90's

I am pretty sure Rivera has gained plenty of votes over the years also.

Jays_Cards said:
Huffamaniac said:
Dodgers are below .500 and would not make the playoffs if they started today. Many people do not vote for someone whose team is not in the playoffs which is one of the reasons Ethier is not running away with this.

vetsgt02 said:
anyone who selects someone besides Ethier for the NL MVP at this point is a complete moron.

...And people NEVER vote for closers. While Soriano has definitely solidified the back end of the Rays pen, he is not in the top 3 most valuable players on his own team.
 

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Huffamaniac said:
That is not true. I know for a fact Mark Davis was 6th in the MVP voting in 1989 when he won the CY Young. I am pretty sure Rivera has gained plenty of votes over the years also.

Jays_Cards said:
Huffamaniac said:
Dodgers are below .500 and would not make the playoffs if they started today. Many people do not vote for someone whose team is not in the playoffs which is one of the reasons Ethier is not running away with this.

vetsgt02 said:
anyone who selects someone besides Ethier for the NL MVP at this point is a complete moron.

...And people NEVER vote for closers. While Soriano has definitely solidified the back end of the Rays pen, he is not in the top 3 most valuable players on his own team.

Finishing 6th and being a legitimate MVP candidate are two drastically different things. How many players on bad teams have won the MVP versus closers winning the MVP?
 

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sportscardtheory said:
"So far" in the league, he is not the MVP or even in the top-five. The poll isn't "Who will win the MVP Award".

I take the subject to mean this: If the season ended today, who would you vote for MVP?

Using those parameters, it wouldn't be a pitcher. The last pitcher to finish in the top 5 for MVP voting, in any league, was Pedro Martinez in 2000 (he finished 5th). In 2006, while still pitching in the AL, Johan Santana led all of MLB in wins, ERA, and strikeouts. He finished 7th in AL MVP voting, so clearly the MVP voters prefer hitters.

In my opinion, to have 3 pitchers on the poll for NL MVP, and not Pujols (who is clearly the Cardinal's best hitter this year on a first place team), is a mistake. By the way, Pujols has yet to make an error this year in the field.

I stand by my argument: So far in 2010, Pujols is in the top 5 of NL MVP candidates. You can disagree, of course. After all, it is your post and your poll.

David
 

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