George_Calfas
Well-known member
Only Jr.
Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.
Only Jr.
I second that!
What ever happened to the hall of fame and not the hall of "I was good but played for 20 years and accumulated a lot of stats". Or " the hall of very good"
Griffey, Piazza, Bagwell, Raines
I do not think Raines belongs, and think it's a joke he's constantly supported as such
I think it's a joke that people who purport to be baseball fans don't realize that Raines was one of the most valuable players in the game for a large portion of his career.
He also had a MUCH higher stolen base % than Rickey did.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14390306/the-hall-fame-case-tim-raines
Right, because all-star appearances determine how good of a player you were.Seriously? You are going to attack me as a baseball fan? Boy, I sure love FCB... I guess you and I have a l lot less in common than I thought.
Nonetheless, he played for 23 years, was an all-star for what, 8? That's a Large portion? He was good, no doubt. Not HOF.
Since stats are so interesting to you, I'm curious if you think Andre Dawson should be a HOFer? Raines was good for a most of the 80's, less than 10 years. He played mediocrely for 15 more years (amassing stats). That to me is not HOF.Here's a couple of fun tweets I saw as well...
Raines vs Brock
BA: Rock
OBP: Rock
SLG: Rock
OPS: Rock
TOB: Rock
HR: Rock
SB%: Rock
OPS+: Rock
wOBA: Rock
wRC+: Rock
WAR: Rock
HOF: Brock
Lou Brock would have to return to baseball and steal 762 consecutive bases without being caught to pass Tim Raines in SB efficiency.
Wait, his years in Canada were his only AS years, so that defense has no bearing. I know AS is not the most important thing, but if you aren't even (feared, respected, liked, loved, favorited) enough to be an AS, how can you expect to be a HOFer?Right, because all-star appearances determine how good of a player you were.
He played in ****ing Canada, in the non-internet, non-MLB package 1980s.
He is one of the best base-stealers, best left fielders, and probably the 2nd best leadoff man of all time after Rickey.