Who knew, Cabrera on pace for Aaron?

[justwar]

Just saw this on the Tigers telecast. Obviously there's a long way to go but why can't Miggy break the record? OK, he's a big boy, but he's not fat and out of shape. With modern medicine and training techniques who knows. I only posted this because I had no idea there was such a similarity.

AT THE AGE OF 26

Miggy:
Seasons: 6
Homers: 179
RBIs: 662

Aaron:
Seasons: 6
Homers: 179
RBIs: 617

 

[Austin]

Most people don't know Aaron never hit 50 homers in a season.
47 was his career high.
Aaron was just amazingly consistent over a long 23-year career.
That's averaging only 33 home runs a season.

 

[trevordchi]

Odds are very low Miggy is the age he claims to be. None of them are.

 

[nborton]

Most people don't know Aaron never hit 50 homers in a season.
47 was his career high.
Aaron was just amazingly consistent over a long 23-year career.
That's averaging only 33 home runs a season.

There is something to be said for long term consistency. Personally, I think long term consistency is more impressive than a couple of great years and then nothing. I've never gotten the compiler slams on certain members of the HOF.

 

[Halonut]

miguel is a great hitter no doubt but his body type doesn't lend itself to a long career. how many fat boys have played 23 years?

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Odds are very low Miggy is the age he claims to be. None of them are.

ehh cabrera looked like a little boy when he came in the league...alot different than a full grown man like albert pujols...I would bet my life that he is the age he says he is.

 

[All The Hype]

Odds are very low Miggy is the age he claims to be. None of them are.

ehh cabrera looked like a little boy when he came in the league...alot different than a full grown man like albert pujols...I would bet my life that he is the age he says he is.

Yeah that's what came to my mind when I read this post too.

He's an unbelievable hitter with tremendous power, and he COULD do it, but a lot of things would have to go right for it to happen.

He sure is off to a great start this season though.

 

[nborton]

miguel is a great hitter no doubt but his body type doesn't lend itself to a long career. how many fat boys have played 23 years?

I worry about that too. Although, Ruth had a pretty long career. Hopefully, he keeps it under control. He gets a lot of junk talked about him for his weight, but he's not that much bigger than Pujols.

Pujols 6'3 230
Miggy 6'4 240

 

[All The Hype]

miguel is a great hitter no doubt but his body type doesn't lend itself to a long career. how many fat boys have played 23 years?

I worry about that too. Although, Ruth had a pretty long career. Hopefully, he keeps it under control. He gets a lot of junk talked about him for his weight, but he's not that much bigger than Pujols.

Pujols 6'3 230
Miggy 6'4 240

I don't know how true my perceptions are, but my perception of Pujols is that the guy is made out of muscle.

My perception of Cabrera is that he is a little softer in the midsection.

Although they are close in size, one is in much better physical shape (or at least I think that's the way it is just from looking at the two of them)

 

[nborton]

miguel is a great hitter no doubt but his body type doesn't lend itself to a long career. how many fat boys have played 23 years?

I worry about that too. Although, Ruth had a pretty long career. Hopefully, he keeps it under control. He gets a lot of junk talked about him for his weight, but he's not that much bigger than Pujols.

Pujols 6'3 230
Miggy 6'4 240

I don't know how true my perceptions are, but my perception of Pujols is that the guy is made out of muscle.

My perception of Cabrera is that he is a little softer in the midsection.

Although they are close in size, one is in much better physical shape (or at least I think that's the way it is just from looking at the two of them)

Fair enough. I have the same perception. Overall though, it's seems that it ends up being joints that start to wear out (knees, backs, elbows, etc.). Weight is weight when it comes to that. It is funny to look at guys in their rookie season, and then when they retire. Almost all of them are 20+ pounds heavier. It wouldn't shock me to see Grady Sizemore hitting 40+ bombs a year and filling out like Dye or someone similar.

 

[Halonut]

listed height and weight does nothing for me...all i know is miggy has appeared sloppy at times and seems to have trouble maintaining his physique

 

[All The Hype]

miguel is a great hitter no doubt but his body type doesn't lend itself to a long career. how many fat boys have played 23 years?

I worry about that too. Although, Ruth had a pretty long career. Hopefully, he keeps it under control. He gets a lot of junk talked about him for his weight, but he's not that much bigger than Pujols.

Pujols 6'3 230
Miggy 6'4 240

I don't know how true my perceptions are, but my perception of Pujols is that the guy is made out of muscle.

My perception of Cabrera is that he is a little softer in the midsection.

Although they are close in size, one is in much better physical shape (or at least I think that's the way it is just from looking at the two of them)

Fair enough. I have the same perception. Overall though, it's seems that it ends up being joints that start to wear out (knees, backs, elbows, etc.). Weight is weight when it comes to that. It is funny to look at guys in their rookie season, and then when they retire. Almost all of them are 20+ pounds heavier. It wouldn't shock me to see Grady Sizemore hitting 40+ bombs a year and filling out like Dye or someone similar.

Yeah definitely.

By the way, are you watching the Tigers game? Granderson mashed a leadoff bomb to straightaway center.

 

[UMich92]

Most people don't know Aaron never hit 50 homers in a season.
47 was his career high.
Aaron was just amazingly consistent over a long 23-year career.
That's averaging only 33 home runs a season.

There is something to be said for long term consistency. Personally, I think long term consistency is more impressive than a couple of great years and then nothing. I've never gotten the compiler slams on certain members of the HOF.

I agree wholeheartedly. To me there are three types of HOFers: 1) Extremely dominant for a relatively shorter period of time (Koufax is the best example); 2) Players that were all-stars for a long, long time but maybe never really the dominant player in the league (to stay with pitchers, Don Sutton is a good example); 3) Players who were both dominant and who lasted a long, long time and Hank Aaron is great example (20+ HR for 20 consecutive years with 15 of the years over 30).

Alex

 

[mlbsalltimegreats]

Just saw this on the Tigers telecast. Obviously there's a long way to go but why can't Miggy break the record? OK, he's a big boy, but he's not fat and out of shape. With modern medicine and training techniques who knows. I only posted this because I had no idea there was such a similarity.

AT THE AGE OF 26

Miggy:
Seasons: 6
Homers: 179
RBIs: 662

Aaron:
Seasons: 6
Homers: 179
RBIs: 617

I have no problem when people bring up the assumption that someone can break the home run record. The problem I have is believing that (With how much players are paid now) player in todays era would want or could stick around for 20 - 23 years which atleast in this comparision, Miggy would have to do to break/tie the record.

 

[All The Hype]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":1c77v896]

miguel is a great hitter no doubt but his body type doesn't lend itself to a long career. how many fat boys have played 23 years?

I worry about that too. Although, Ruth had a pretty long career. Hopefully, he keeps it under control. He gets a lot of junk talked about him for his weight, but he's not that much bigger than Pujols.

Pujols 6'3 230
Miggy 6'4 240

I don't know how true my perceptions are, but my perception of Pujols is that the guy is made out of muscle.

My perception of Cabrera is that he is a little softer in the midsection.

Although they are close in size, one is in much better physical shape (or at least I think that's the way it is just from looking at the two of them)

Fair enough. I have the same perception. Overall though, it's seems that it ends up being joints that start to wear out (knees, backs, elbows, etc.). Weight is weight when it comes to that. It is funny to look at guys in their rookie season, and then when they retire. Almost all of them are 20+ pounds heavier. It wouldn't shock me to see Grady Sizemore hitting 40+ bombs a year and filling out like Dye or someone similar.

Yeah definitely.

By the way, are you watching the Tigers game? Granderson mashed a leadoff bomb to straightaway center.[/quote:1c77v896]


He just hit ANOTHER one to lead off the third. Guy has been hot so far this week.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Odds are very low Miggy is the age he claims to be. None of them are.

As someone who saw Cabrera no less than 10 times during his low-A Midwest League stint where he was listed as 18...he clearly looked 18, if not younger compared to others on the team.

I also saw Pujols numerous times the year earlier and he looked older than most of the players on the team when he was listed at 20 - supposedly the young end of that team.

What does it mean?

Nothing other than I personally believe Cabrera is indeed his listed age. Also on note, the major offending country in 2002's (and beyond) "Age-Gate" were from the Dominican...not Venezuela.

And calling Cabrera "on pace for Aaron" is comical at this stage.

 

[nborton]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":17nnzwx8]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":17nnzwx8]

miguel is a great hitter no doubt but his body type doesn't lend itself to a long career. how many fat boys have played 23 years?

I worry about that too. Although, Ruth had a pretty long career. Hopefully, he keeps it under control. He gets a lot of junk talked about him for his weight, but he's not that much bigger than Pujols.

Pujols 6'3 230
Miggy 6'4 240

I don't know how true my perceptions are, but my perception of Pujols is that the guy is made out of muscle.

My perception of Cabrera is that he is a little softer in the midsection.

Although they are close in size, one is in much better physical shape (or at least I think that's the way it is just from looking at the two of them)

Fair enough. I have the same perception. Overall though, it's seems that it ends up being joints that start to wear out (knees, backs, elbows, etc.). Weight is weight when it comes to that. It is funny to look at guys in their rookie season, and then when they retire. Almost all of them are 20+ pounds heavier. It wouldn't shock me to see Grady Sizemore hitting 40+ bombs a year and filling out like Dye or someone similar.

Yeah definitely.

By the way, are you watching the Tigers game? Granderson mashed a leadoff bomb to straightaway center.[/quote:17nnzwx8]


He just hit ANOTHER one to lead off the third. Guy has been hot so far this week.[/quote:17nnzwx8]

Wooo Hooo!!! Granderson has more pop than most realize. That second one was REALLY gone too.

 

[fengzhang]

While Cabrera is on pace for a high amount of homeruns, he has not demonstrated tremendous power. 32 homeruns every 610 at-bats is good but not homerun champ good. As he gets older and the injuries start racking up, he won't be able to maintain 600+ AB's every year.

 

[matfanofold]

I'm not sure whats comical about it, the fact of the matter is that miggy is on pace for HR's and RBI's with Aaron at this point. This is not saying I or anyone else believes he will bring an Aaron-like carear to fruition, but at this point in there respective carears, taking only HR's and RBI's in to consideration, the comparison is there spot on!


Do I believe Miggy has 18 years of high production ball left in him? No.

Remember, when talking strictly stats involving HR's and RBI's, Miggy's on Par. Seriously taking any other comparison in to context with reguards to Aaron, his carear or accomplishment is indeed comical.