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Who was the greatest Post-War pitcher?
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Re: Who was the greatest POST-WAR pitcher?
Maddux
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Re: Who was the greatest POST-WAR pitcher?
Warren Spahn
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Re: Who was the greatest POST-WAR pitcher?
Not trying to be a homer, but I voted other:
Pedro.
Not trying to be a homer, but I voted other:
Pedro.
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Some guy with 5714 K's.
Some guy with 5714 K's.
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Bob Gibson
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Re: Who was the greatest POST-WAR pitcher?
Nolan Ryan
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Bob Gibson based solely on the fact MLB re-designed the pitcher's mound to compensate for his dominance. He has the stats, reputation, and big game performance to back it up.
Bob Gibson based solely on the fact MLB re-designed the pitcher's mound to compensate for his dominance. He has the stats, reputation, and big game performance to back it up.
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I voted for Randy Johnson.
In my opinion, he was the most feared and dominant SP since WWII.
Pedro, Koufax were both dominant for a short period of time; I love Ryan, but he was never "dominant", just look at his overall numbers; Gibson is my favorite SP of all time, but I would still take RJ over him (Especially since he is a lefty) and Maddux was more crafty than dominant.
So, for me, The Big Unit it is.
I voted for Randy Johnson.
In my opinion, he was the most feared and dominant SP since WWII.
Pedro, Koufax were both dominant for a short period of time; I love Ryan, but he was never "dominant", just look at his overall numbers; Gibson is my favorite SP of all time, but I would still take RJ over him (Especially since he is a lefty) and Maddux was more crafty than dominant.
So, for me, The Big Unit it is.
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I have Gibson ahead of Clemens using my interpretation of WAR.
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I have Gibson ahead of Clemens using my interpretation of WAR.
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Man with all the other threads, I would have figured someone would have asked "greatest on what basis"?
You guys just don't learn
Anyway, IMHO, they are all the greatest.
Clemens= greatest* statistically
Gibson=greatest statistically
Seaver=greatest consistently and longevity
Maddux=greatest groundout pitcher
Randy Johnson=greatest strikeouts/9IP
Koufax=well, uh, he was gay and Jewish
Sure we can throw a few more greatest in there while we are at it
Nolan=best at fooling many he was greatest due to his long mediocre career
Pedro=best at throwing managers to the ground (seriously, who picked him..he is up there for pWAR and so/9ip, but he doesn't really own any stats, so not sure why he was picked as greatest by one person here)?
Point being, "greatest" is a subjective and relative word, which can be defined by whatever meaning one chooses.
Beyond that, I personally would say that the most correct answer based on WAR, pWAR, Winshares, or most any other meaningful statistic you could throw at them would be:
Clemens* or if you don't like asteriks Bob Gibson...both beat Koufax in every category, even if you look at just their best 5 years.
Man with all the other threads, I would have figured someone would have asked "greatest on what basis"?
You guys just don't learn
Anyway, IMHO, they are all the greatest.
Clemens= greatest* statistically
Gibson=greatest statistically
Seaver=greatest consistently and longevity
Maddux=greatest groundout pitcher
Randy Johnson=greatest strikeouts/9IP
Koufax=well, uh, he was gay and Jewish
Sure we can throw a few more greatest in there while we are at it
Nolan=best at fooling many he was greatest due to his long mediocre career
Pedro=best at throwing managers to the ground (seriously, who picked him..he is up there for pWAR and so/9ip, but he doesn't really own any stats, so not sure why he was picked as greatest by one person here)?
Point being, "greatest" is a subjective and relative word, which can be defined by whatever meaning one chooses.
Beyond that, I personally would say that the most correct answer based on WAR, pWAR, Winshares, or most any other meaningful statistic you could throw at them would be:
Clemens* or if you don't like asteriks Bob Gibson...both beat Koufax in every category, even if you look at just their best 5 years.
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Mariano Rivera. And I (swear that rhymes with "ducking") hate the Yankees.
He got guys out with the best fastball the game has ever seen.
Now, if someone would like to qualify this with "best post-war starting pitcher" or "best stuff" or something then of course I would change this.
Mariano Rivera. And I (swear that rhymes with "ducking") hate the Yankees.
He got guys out with the best fastball the game has ever seen.
Now, if someone would like to qualify this with "best post-war starting pitcher" or "best stuff" or something then of course I would change this.
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I have Gibson ahead of Clemens using my interpretation of WAR.[/quote:qzr98nd5]
Oh,ok...I had to do a double-look...yea, I guess pWAR5 he has him by a fraction.... I know Clemens beats him in pWAR7,10, and career war.
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I have Gibson ahead of Clemens using my interpretation of WAR.[/quote:qzr98nd5]
Oh,ok...I had to do a double-look...yea, I guess pWAR5 he has him by a fraction.... I know Clemens beats him in pWAR7,10, and career war.
