trademhigh
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This was in the paper today. I forgot who was interviewed (I think scouts, if not, then players or something). 12-0 in favor of Hughes was the verdict.
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Who would you rather have: Phil Hughes or Mike Pelfrey?
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darocker80
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Hughes 
especially after today.
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soccerman034
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darocker80 said:Hughes
Even after giving up 5 ER to one of the best teams in baseball, Pelfrey's ERA is still nearly a half a run better than Hughes on the season. I would take Hughes as well, but I feel that he is being short-changed in this poll.
Jays_Cards
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soccerman034 said:darocker80 said:Hughes
Even after giving up 5 ER to one of the best teams in baseball, Pelfrey's ERA is still nearly a half a run better than Hughes on the season. I would take Hughes as well, but I feel that he is being short-changed in this poll.
Comparing an ERA from a pitcher in the NL East to a pitcher in the AL East is laughable at best.
Canocollector#1
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Jays_Cards said:soccerman034 said:darocker80 said:Hughes
Even after giving up 5 ER to one of the best teams in baseball, Pelfrey's ERA is still nearly a half a run better than Hughes on the season. I would take Hughes as well, but I feel that he is being short-changed in this poll.
Comparing an ERA from a pitcher in the NL East to a pitcher in the AL East is laughable at best.
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soccerman034
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Jays_Cards said:soccerman034 said:darocker80 said:Hughes
Even after giving up 5 ER to one of the best teams in baseball, Pelfrey's ERA is still nearly a half a run better than Hughes on the season. I would take Hughes as well, but I feel that he is being short-changed in this poll.
Comparing an ERA from a pitcher in the NL East to a pitcher in the AL East is laughable at best.
Ok.
Pelfrey's ERA+: 170 (70% better than the league average)
Hughes ERA+: 132 (32% better than the league average)
Zymco
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I feel like people are still voting, so I'll vote again. hughes 365 days a year. he does everything better than Pelfrey at a younger age in a division that is 53295032582308 times harder to pitch in. Hughes is a future number for the best and most popular team in baseball, i am shocked his cards are still affordable.
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soccerman034 said:Jays_Cards said:soccerman034 said:darocker80 said:Hughes
Even after giving up 5 ER to one of the best teams in baseball, Pelfrey's ERA is still nearly a half a run better than Hughes on the season. I would take Hughes as well, but I feel that he is being short-changed in this poll.
Comparing an ERA from a pitcher in the NL East to a pitcher in the AL East is laughable at best.
Ok.
Pelfrey's ERA+: 170 (70% better than the league average)
Hughes ERA+: 132 (32% better than the league average)
Comparing ERA across leagues is irrelevant, whether it is raw or normalized. Coming into today:
Hughes -
FIP - 2.91
WAR - 2.2
K/9 - 8.84
BB/9 - 2.63
AVG - .229
WHIP - 1.13
Pelfrey -
FIP - 3.29
WAR - 1.9
K/9 - 6.13
BB/9 - 3.29
AVG - .235
WHIP - 1.22
It's not really even close.
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soccerman034
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How is it irrelevant? In the NL, Pelfrey's ERA is 70 percent better than the average. In the AL, Hughes ERA is 32 percent better than the average. Unless I am completely misinterpreting the stats (which could be), Pelfrey has a more impressive ERA. Regardless, I am just excited to watch both continue to improve.
