Who's buying Mike Trout?

[ballerskrip]

This is NOT Mike Trout's peak. I promise. There is meat left on the bone, and I think refractor autos are a deal at 120-125 (chromes are 80-90, and Xs are around 2 bens), and sure to rise.

Smart people who have lots of extra $ to tie up are buying him, and they WILL make money. I'd put money on that (see what I did there?).

It's not over.

"Ya'll need to listen to this aminors guy."

I disagree with all of the above. So if Mike Trout bats .310 with 15 HR and 45 Sb's, you think his chrome autos should keep rising? I have a TOUGH time believing that is the case. Jason Heyward is a MUCH better player/prospect with a higher ceiling and in a better card marker. Plus Heyward's explosion happened when he was about to the the big club, not heading to AA. I think people paying these inflated prices are gonna feel the pain, and it isn't going to be pretty.

skrip

Step back, breathe and read the whole thread. Nobody here thinks he's the starting CF for the Angels. But you are telling me that if Trout is named the top prospect by BA, his prices won't see another jump? That when ESPN's Buster Olney does some spring training cutup of him being compared to Mantle that the prices won't jump. Today is Feb. 6th. What could Trout possibly do to cause a decrease in the coming weeks other than hanging out with Delino Jr.?

I have read the thread. Is there a possibility he could see another small jump? Of course. But players prices don't continue to rise unless your name is Albert Pujols. Could he see another jump when BA releases it's topp 100 list? Yes, but hasn't everyone already assumed that he is the #1 prospect while paying these already crazy prices? If what you are saying is a guarantee, we would all be buying right now. Also, to see mike trout's elite auto outsell Jason Heywards elite auto is a joke.

skrip

 

[jbhofmann]

I think it is a joke. I compared the kid to Drew Stubbs and got laughed at. I'm just saying that there is no where to go but up until......

 

[bballcardkid]

I'm not one of these buying Trout right now, but with all the people claiming that if Trout starts out unspectacularly his prices will fall like a rock, I have to ask...what does Bryce Harper have to do this season to maintain a $50-$60 base Chrome value? Hit a home run every game while curing cancer and solving world hunger? The answer for both to both players is they don't have to.

The difference between the two is Trout is still a virtual unknown to the common baseball fan. It doesn't matter if he isn't going to break camp as a big leager, his hype is only in it's infancy. For every 1000 fans that have heard of Bryce Harper, maybe 100 have heard of Trout. Is there a chance that he falls flat on his face this spring making current prices the near the highest they will possibly be? Sure, but there is also the chance that the common baseball fan will relate the word Trout more so with a top baseball prospect than a fish. All it takes is one game, just one game this spring for Trout to show all his tools and have all of the ESPN sheep to start ooing and ahing over the new #1 prospect in the game for cards to go BONKERS. Not every casual has heard of Keith Law, much less read his blogs, nor watch MLB Network. They are spoon fed from ESPN. Just one good game, and it's not like Trout hasn't performed in spring training, these prices could become an after thought real quick.

You could argue that you really shouldn't sell any prospect before spring training starts because there is always the outside chance that they perform well against major league competition once given the chance. If your one of the least known #1 prospects over the past decade, that statement is even more true because just a short hot streak would lead to more exposure, thus higher prices. Anybody remember Jacob Turner last year when he pitched what, 1 game and his prices doubled? To say that anybody should be sold NOW, at this very moment, otherwise your a fool is absurd.

 

[jbhofmann]

Ok, who's the idiot?

688.88 to 860 in a matter of seconds.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=120679637822

 

[MallCopKJ]

"Scouting Report: Trout has turned himself into a favorite of scouts in the Northeast, both for his talent and his makeup. An East Carolina commitment, he has rocketed up draft boards as a senior, thanks to an improved offensive approach. Last year, even in the fall, he had a tendency to bail out in the batter's box, particularly against sliders. This spring he has quieted his approach and improved against breaking balls, and he's shown the ability to hit hard line drives to all fields, though his swing still gets loopy and long at times. Halfway through the spring, Trout even began working on hitting lefthanded, and he showed some aptitude for it. Trout's frame and skill set draws comparisons to Aaron Rowand, but he's a faster runner—he runs the 60-yard dash in 6.5 seconds. He has good range and instincts in center field and plenty of arm for the position. Trout's bat is not a sure thing, but he has a chance to be a solid-average hitter with average or better power. Like Rowand, Trout is a grinder who always plays the game hard"

 

[Jaypers]

Ok, who's the idiot?

688.88 to 860 in a matter of seconds.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=120679637822

Seeing as how I'm the seller, I'd like to thank that idi....errr, I mean that extremely savvy buyer.



(Paid right away, too.)

 

[abeabe]

LOL :lol: Good for you!!!

 

[hail2thevictors]

anyone not selling now is a fool

I would have to disagree.

Anyone selling before BA's Top 100 list comes out is the fool. The guy is basically a lock to be #1-that alone drives value up at least a little. I don't have as much Trout stuff as I wish, but I have had 3 chrome autos and 1 ref auto for over 8 months. I wanted to pull the string at $40 on the chromes, but talked myself out of it. I wanted to sell at $60, but said nah, he has room to grow. I saw $80, and laughed. Told myself "the BA top 100 list isn't even out yet." I have no reason to sell before he is named #1 prospect by BA. Once that happens(February sometime?) I will be unloading most everything.

I was buying a lot of Bowman Platinum autos around $17-$25, and have contemplated still buying at $40-I think the Bowman Platinum's are going to take off for 2 reasons: 1) Not everyone can buy chrome autos at $100+, or Sterlings at $70+ and 2) These are on card. Sterlings aren't. I honestly think Platinum's could hit $60+. From where he is right now, that is around a 50% ROI, and I would anticipate only having the cards 2 months, max.

Those that say "he doesn't have power," well I would say you just don't understand. Power doesn't sell near as much as hype sells. Hype wins out, it's really that simple. This kid has potential to add average or better power-what is going to make him continue to rise is the insane hype around him. Think about it-BA #1, Keith Law #1, mlb.com #1-when there are guys like Bryce Harper and Montero, that is saying something. He doesn't have to hit 35 HR's, the hype will drive his prices just fine.

If I just had extra cash lying around, I would buy up every card listed via auction on eBay. There is no reason why you couldn't make 25%+ ROI on them in as little as 2 months.

And last-to the OP who said he wouldn't be talked about as much in Arkansas-you are kidding, right? He could be playing in Alaska and he would still have a love fest from all things prospects. Playing in Arkansas will have no negative effect on his hype, I can assure you of that.

 

[hail2thevictors]

Ok, who's the idiot?

688.88 to 860 in a matter of seconds.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=120679637822

Seeing as how I'm the seller, I'd like to thank that idi....errr, I mean that extremely savvy buyer.



(Paid right away, too.)

I saw that sale-what did you pay for it, though?

 

[ballerskrip]

anyone not selling now is a fool

I would have to disagree.

Anyone selling before BA's Top 100 list comes out is the fool. The guy is basically a lock to be #1-that alone drives value up at least a little. I don't have as much Trout stuff as I wish, but I have had 3 chrome autos and 1 ref auto for over 8 months. I wanted to pull the string at $40 on the chromes, but talked myself out of it. I wanted to sell at $60, but said nah, he has room to grow. I saw $80, and laughed. Told myself "the BA top 100 list isn't even out yet." I have no reason to sell before he is named #1 prospect by BA. Once that happens(February sometime?) I will be unloading most everything.

I was buying a lot of Bowman Platinum autos around $17-$25, and have contemplated still buying at $40-I think the Bowman Platinum's are going to take off for 2 reasons: 1) Not everyone can buy chrome autos at $100+, or Sterlings at $70+ and 2) These are on card. Sterlings aren't. I honestly think Platinum's could hit $60+. From where he is right now, that is around a 50% ROI, and I would anticipate only having the cards 2 months, max.

Those that say "he doesn't have power," well I would say you just don't understand. Power doesn't sell near as much as hype sells. Hype wins out, it's really that simple. This kid has potential to add average or better power-what is going to make him continue to rise is the insane hype around him. Think about it-BA #1, Keith Law #1, mlb.com #1-when there are guys like Bryce Harper and Montero, that is saying something. He doesn't have to hit 35 HR's, the hype will drive his prices just fine.

If I just had extra cash lying around, I would buy up every card listed via auction on eBay. There is no reason why you couldn't make 25%+ ROI on them in as little as 2 months.

And last-to the OP who said he wouldn't be talked about as much in Arkansas-you are kidding, right? He could be playing in Alaska and he would still have a love fest from all things prospects. Playing in Arkansas will have no negative effect on his hype, I can assure you of that.

YOu are fogetting the downfall of platinum as well

1. it is 2010!, NOT 2009
2. it is Bowman platinum, a new brand who not many people give a turd about

The rest of your points are well made and I agree with most of them

skrip

 

[hail2thevictors]

anyone not selling now is a fool

I would have to disagree.

Anyone selling before BA's Top 100 list comes out is the fool. The guy is basically a lock to be #1-that alone drives value up at least a little. I don't have as much Trout stuff as I wish, but I have had 3 chrome autos and 1 ref auto for over 8 months. I wanted to pull the string at $40 on the chromes, but talked myself out of it. I wanted to sell at $60, but said nah, he has room to grow. I saw $80, and laughed. Told myself "the BA top 100 list isn't even out yet." I have no reason to sell before he is named #1 prospect by BA. Once that happens(February sometime?) I will be unloading most everything.

I was buying a lot of Bowman Platinum autos around $17-$25, and have contemplated still buying at $40-I think the Bowman Platinum's are going to take off for 2 reasons: 1) Not everyone can buy chrome autos at $100+, or Sterlings at $70+ and 2) These are on card. Sterlings aren't. I honestly think Platinum's could hit $60+. From where he is right now, that is around a 50% ROI, and I would anticipate only having the cards 2 months, max.

Those that say "he doesn't have power," well I would say you just don't understand. Power doesn't sell near as much as hype sells. Hype wins out, it's really that simple. This kid has potential to add average or better power-what is going to make him continue to rise is the insane hype around him. Think about it-BA #1, Keith Law #1, mlb.com #1-when there are guys like Bryce Harper and Montero, that is saying something. He doesn't have to hit 35 HR's, the hype will drive his prices just fine.

If I just had extra cash lying around, I would buy up every card listed via auction on eBay. There is no reason why you couldn't make 25%+ ROI on them in as little as 2 months.

And last-to the OP who said he wouldn't be talked about as much in Arkansas-you are kidding, right? He could be playing in Alaska and he would still have a love fest from all things prospects. Playing in Arkansas will have no negative effect on his hype, I can assure you of that.

YOu are fogetting the downfall of platinum as well

1. it is 2010!, NOT 2009
2. it is Bowman platinum, a new brand who not many people give a turd about

The rest of your points are well made and I agree with most of them

skrip

You make a valid point, but in the end my personal opinion is that this stuff won't matter-because I think when fans want a Mike Trout auto, they are going to have a few options:

1-Bowman Chrome: will be $100+
2-Donruss Elite: probably will be $70+
3-Bowman Platinum: will be $60ish
4-TriStar autos: will depend, but probably will be around $40+

The BC autos will be too much for many fans. The TriStar's have the logo's airbrushed out, making the cards less attractive in my opinion.

That will leave Elites and Platinums. I think Platinum autos are going to do a lot better than most think. They are much better looking cards than Elite's in my take. We shall see, only time will tell.

 

[hail2thevictors]

"Scouting Report: Trout has turned himself into a favorite of scouts in the Northeast, both for his talent and his makeup. An East Carolina commitment, he has rocketed up draft boards as a senior, thanks to an improved offensive approach. Last year, even in the fall, he had a tendency to bail out in the batter's box, particularly against sliders. This spring he has quieted his approach and improved against breaking balls, and he's shown the ability to hit hard line drives to all fields, though his swing still gets loopy and long at times. Halfway through the spring, Trout even began working on hitting lefthanded, and he showed some aptitude for it. Trout's frame and skill set draws comparisons to Aaron Rowand, but he's a faster runner—he runs the 60-yard dash in 6.5 seconds. He has good range and instincts in center field and plenty of arm for the position. Trout's bat is not a sure thing, but he has a chance to be a solid-average hitter with average or better power. Like Rowand, Trout is a grinder who always plays the game hard"

Newsflash: You might want to check out a current scouting report, maybe one that has been updated since 2009. A lot has changed, and change here is good change.

 

[hail2thevictors]

Double post.

 

[Wes]

People here are buying him, they just aren't admitting it.

There were plenty of people here buying Strasburg at the peak too, yet no one fessed up.

I'm assuming that the people who are silent about buying into people at their peaks, are the same prospectors who claim to have never had a prospecting miss where they lost money on a player.

True, true...that certainly could be the case. But, do people realize that Trout is ticketed to AA this season? So, why are you buying at these ridiculous prices when he's unlikely to touch a MLB field until Sept. at the earliest? This is not a Heyward situation where "he has nothing left to prove in the minors". Trout has plenty left to prove in AA especially.

I just find it comical but WILL continue to sell to these people until I run out of Trout's to sell. Now, don't get me wrong, I think he's a great prospect and has a bright future but not at these prices.

If you're really into Trout, I would wait till he's down in Arkansas with no publicity whatsoever and his prices will decline a bit (not much)...then have at it!

The longer he's in the minors the more time there is to generate hype and the increase his card values. If Stanton had stayed in the minors all of last year his chromes would have reached $250 easily. Being called up cost him big time.

 

[Zymco]

People here are buying him, they just aren't admitting it.

There were plenty of people here buying Strasburg at the peak too, yet no one fessed up.

I'm assuming that the people who are silent about buying into people at their peaks, are the same prospectors who claim to have never had a prospecting miss where they lost money on a player.

True, true...that certainly could be the case. But, do people realize that Trout is ticketed to AA this season? So, why are you buying at these ridiculous prices when he's unlikely to touch a MLB field until Sept. at the earliest? This is not a Heyward situation where "he has nothing left to prove in the minors". Trout has plenty left to prove in AA especially.

I just find it comical but WILL continue to sell to these people until I run out of Trout's to sell. Now, don't get me wrong, I think he's a great prospect and has a bright future but not at these prices.

If you're really into Trout, I would wait till he's down in Arkansas with no publicity whatsoever and his prices will decline a bit (not much)...then have at it!

The longer he's in the minors the more time there is to generate hype and the increase his card values. If Stanton had stayed in the minors all of last year his chromes would have reached $250 easily. Being called up cost him big time.

Exactly, its all about the hype, performance is almost secondary. Which is the exact reason why his stuff still has room to grow, its the exact reason why Trout's chrome auto can sell as high as a Braun chrome auto and outsell chrome autos of guys like Kershaw and Lester and Upton, hype.

 

[hail2thevictors]

People here are buying him, they just aren't admitting it.

There were plenty of people here buying Strasburg at the peak too, yet no one fessed up.

I'm assuming that the people who are silent about buying into people at their peaks, are the same prospectors who claim to have never had a prospecting miss where they lost money on a player.

True, true...that certainly could be the case. But, do people realize that Trout is ticketed to AA this season? So, why are you buying at these ridiculous prices when he's unlikely to touch a MLB field until Sept. at the earliest? This is not a Heyward situation where "he has nothing left to prove in the minors". Trout has plenty left to prove in AA especially.

I just find it comical but WILL continue to sell to these people until I run out of Trout's to sell. Now, don't get me wrong, I think he's a great prospect and has a bright future but not at these prices.

If you're really into Trout, I would wait till he's down in Arkansas with no publicity whatsoever and his prices will decline a bit (not much)...then have at it!

The longer he's in the minors the more time there is to generate hype and the increase his card values. If Stanton had stayed in the minors all of last year his chromes would have reached $250 easily. Being called up cost him big time.

Exactly, its all about the hype, performance is almost secondary. Which is the exact reason why his stuff still has room to grow, its the exact reason why Trout's chrome auto can sell as high as a Braun chrome auto and outsell chrome autos of guys like Kershaw and Lester and Upton, hype.

It's good to see some folks understand that hype sells, above all else.

Everyone who says you should sell now will say that he has no power. Well, I am here to tell you he could hit 15 HR this year, and he could still go up very easily. It's all about the hype.

People will say well "Player X"(a guy with Trout-like numbers) never sold like this. Well, that Player X was never hyped even close to what Trout has been, and will continue to be.

 

[aaron41984]

This is my final thought on this subject. Those who have sold Trout and made $, good job. Those who are selling Trout now, I'm sure you are making out well, good job. Those who are holding... don't be too greedy. Those who are buying, good luck.

 

[bballcardkid]

This is my final thought on this subject. Those who have sold Trout and made $, good job. Those who are selling Trout now, I'm sure you are making out well, good job. Those who are holding... don't be too greedy. Those who are buying, good luck.

You have nice Cox! You've one upped me on the Blues as I have 7.

 

[MallCopKJ]

"Scouting Report: Trout has turned himself into a favorite of scouts in the Northeast, both for his talent and his makeup. An East Carolina commitment, he has rocketed up draft boards as a senior, thanks to an improved offensive approach. Last year, even in the fall, he had a tendency to bail out in the batter's box, particularly against sliders. This spring he has quieted his approach and improved against breaking balls, and he's shown the ability to hit hard line drives to all fields, though his swing still gets loopy and long at times. Halfway through the spring, Trout even began working on hitting lefthanded, and he showed some aptitude for it. Trout's frame and skill set draws comparisons to Aaron Rowand, but he's a faster runner—he runs the 60-yard dash in 6.5 seconds. He has good range and instincts in center field and plenty of arm for the position. Trout's bat is not a sure thing, but he has a chance to be a solid-average hitter with average or better power. Like Rowand, Trout is a grinder who always plays the game hard"

Newsflash: You might want to check out a current scouting report, maybe one that has been updated since 2009. A lot has changed, and change here is good change.

LOL! Um, did you read the posts before mine? I agreed with a few others who didnt buy into the hype currently around him. I am well aware of where the hype is right now, I simply do not believe any player goes from "like Aaron Rowand" with more speed to Mickey Mantle in 14 months.

 

[Jaypers]

Ok, who's the idiot?

688.88 to 860 in a matter of seconds.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=120679637822

Seeing as how I'm the seller, I'd like to thank that idi....errr, I mean that extremely savvy buyer.



(Paid right away, too.)

I saw that sale-what did you pay for it, though?

$50.00.