Why does Topps do this?

[Bill Menard]

I mean, especially when several in the market are ruining game used by removing the pieces and "upgrading" with fake material? This sort of thing only feeds into it! Some idiot will buy that and put in a 2009 Yankees patch of the new stadium, stick it back on ebay, call it pack pulled and proclaim how it's one of the nicest Mantle patches ever to surface and some even bigger idiot will buy it for a ridiculous amount of money thinking it's genuine (of course it is genuine... genuine crap)!

edit... i looked at the back of these too and apparently the card only says game used material. Doesn't specify what exactly it is (pants, jersey, bat, hat, etc...)

 

[boomo]

sure is a boring mantle.
your right, off to the patch factory

 

[jswaykos]

My problem is more with the fact that they're using a jumbo PLAIN swatch!!! If it's gonna be that big, at least give us a stripe. As for fakers, yeah, I can imaging this will be tampered with.

 

[ChasHawk]

Seen a few of these for other older players as well. NO idea why Topps would put "patch" on there. :benson:

 

[jswaykos]

Seen a few of these for other older players as well. NO idea why Topps would put "patch" on there. :benson:

Ah, I didn't notice that it actually said "patch" under the swatch. Whoops.

 

[A_Pharis]

Someone please catalogue that.

 

[jeff550]

Someone please catalogue that.

done

 

[Ct Sox Fan]

What surprises me is why don't more collectors express a concern with the fact that a true piece of American History is being cut up and ruined? How many truly authentic Mantle pants/jersey's actually exist? While I am somewhat Ok with the modern players as they probably have hundreds of jerseys (doesn't each team wear several different colors during the season?), I would much rather see the card companies give us collectors a shot at winning the actual jersey or pants. How cool would that be?

If they are going to cut it up, they should put a picture on the back of the card to show the jersey before it was destroyed. This would hopefully discourage the jerks who fake the patches from putting a patch that is not in the picture.

 

[HPC]

What surprises me is why don't more collectors express a concern with the fact that a true piece of American History is being cut up and ruined? How many truly authentic Mantle pants/jersey's actually exist? While I am somewhat Ok with the modern players as they probably have hundreds of jerseys (doesn't each team wear several different colors during the season?), I would much rather see the card companies give us collectors a shot at winning the actual jersey or pants. How cool would that be?

If they are going to cut it up, they should put a picture on the back of the card to show the jersey before it was destroyed. This would hopefully discourage the jerks who fake the patches from putting a patch that is not in the picture.

The ones cut up are the ones topps owns.

There are more out there that they dont, and topps is screwing themselves by making the full ones more expensive by cutting up the others.

While I agree with your statement about an idea for the whole jersey or pants, as long as topps bought em, you cant tell em how or what to do with em.

I like how topps makes em, but wish they would make less of them

 

[Fandruw25]

What surprises me is why don't more collectors express a concern with the fact that a true piece of American History is being cut up and ruined? How many truly authentic Mantle pants/jersey's actually exist? While I am somewhat Ok with the modern players as they probably have hundreds of jerseys (doesn't each team wear several different colors during the season?), I would much rather see the card companies give us collectors a shot at winning the actual jersey or pants. How cool would that be?

If they are going to cut it up, they should put a picture on the back of the card to show the jersey before it was destroyed. This would hopefully discourage the jerks who fake the patches from putting a patch that is not in the picture.

Didn't upper deck do something like that in 99 or 00? I wanna say I remember pulling an advertisement card in just about every pack I opened that showed a jersey, maybe dimaggio's, that you could win.

 

[Ct Sox Fan]

What surprises me is why don't more collectors express a concern with the fact that a true piece of American History is being cut up and ruined? How many truly authentic Mantle pants/jersey's actually exist? While I am somewhat Ok with the modern players as they probably have hundreds of jerseys (doesn't each team wear several different colors during the season?), I would much rather see the card companies give us collectors a shot at winning the actual jersey or pants. How cool would that be?

If they are going to cut it up, they should put a picture on the back of the card to show the jersey before it was destroyed. This would hopefully discourage the jerks who fake the patches from putting a patch that is not in the picture.

Didn't upper deck do something like that in 99 or 00? I wanna say I remember pulling an advertisement card in just about every pack I opened that showed a jersey, maybe dimaggio's, that you could win.

I don't remember that, but I did not get back into collecting until 2002 or so. That would be pretty cool pull, the winning entry for the Dimaggio! There was the Upper Deck product in 2004 too that you could win replica Mitchell and Ness Jerseys as well. But to have a chance to actually own an authentic Dimaggio/Mantle/Williams jersey would be amazing.

But as HPC mentions, Topps owns it and is going to try and maximize their return on the investment. Cutting it up and inserting it is several product lines over the course of a year or two will maximize their profits more than just giving it away.

 

[ChasHawk]

From what I have read in the past, they also tend to buy the jerseys, bats, etc. that in somewhat rough condition to begin with.

People also underestimate just how many cards can be made from said pieces, especially bats.

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

People also underestimate just how many cards can be made from said pieces, especially bats.

Averages about 2000 from a bat and 1200 from a jersey (that was in 2002, may be even more now).

 

[subpop77]

::facepalm:: If topps makes them they could at least make a laser cut design on the front so if they ****** the card it would bend or rip the front up.

 

[leatherman]

Then there was the post on April Fool's Day a few years back when a member on the BMB (Raymond?) posted a fake article stating that card manufacturers were going to stop making jersey cards, and instead include a link to view the article you now shared ownership in with 1000 others. It was classic.

David