Why not just post price on everything?

[ajbraves25]

I posted a thread with like 50 cards on it. Put the prices above the cards and if a current deal gets accepted, I will have 2 deals done at the prices I put out. I priced them low enough to be really good deals and I still get a bit more than my money back. Win-Win I'd say. No haggling or anything. Somebody wants card X, R and A and they get them. Pretty simple. I really don't like having to answer 5 different PM's about somebody's card and a price. If it isn't listed and I ask for a price, one PM should do the trick.

~AJ

 

[nyc3]

I don't think I have the right to tell anyone what they should do in this regard. Let it be as each user wishes.

Yep, I'd rather let those doing the dealing decide their own way of doing business...

The right? Come on guys I dont think its dramatic, you walk in to a card store they have prices on the cards, correct? Its really that simple, the current way its set up its like you walk in see a card with no price and ask the owner "How much?" than wait for an answer for a few days to hear it sold else where.

But I can see why some would feel the "man" is getting them I guess. Its just pointless for some to even look over there since it seems it takes 2 days to get a response and then its "what are you willing to pay?". Only to take another day to respond after that. It would clean up the transaction forum big time and also quell the need to bump a topic 6 billion times since the transactions you would think would go up just due to the amount of time saved.

Obviously certain cards couldnt be priced 1/1's, super rare cards or cards that haven't sold on ebay in a long time etc. but as for the common 2010 strasburg chrome thats selling for $20 is there a need for 5 people selling the same card under wraps?

 

[pigskincardboard]

I'll always chyme in on these threads and the main problem isn't the sellers, it's the buyers. You can always tell a seller that you're not interested at that price but buyer's are a completely different beast, it's a psychological beast. If there's enough cards around or you're willing to wait long enough, to can just tell the seller that you'll buy it on eBay cheaper. Not buyers though, you can't tell a buyer to just go buy it on eBay for the going rate.

If anywhere in the completed history a buyer sees a card that sells for reasonably cheap, they lock their mind on that one number. They assume that since someone else got a steal on eBay and they're arguably the best prospector alive, they should also be entitled to this steal. Even if the average of the last five cards is $50 and they see a $32 sale, they want it for $32 because they're a prospecting god. What they don't understand is that if they bid on that card, it would no longer be a $32 steal because odds are the winner had his bid set around the average.

The problem with this board moreso than any other board is that it's prospect-centric. That's awesome for discussion but absolutely awful for making a deal. When collectors start viewing cards as investments rather than collectibles, they'll want to maximize their profit margin. Even if the fully believe prospect x will increase 30%, they'll want to save 20% on the backend just to hedge their bets.

Most members over 25 are in a position where they never need to sell a card. Thus, they can set their own price. If I think that Beanie Wells is going to rush for 700 yards in the first 3 weeks of the season, why would I ever sell the card for market value? So, I ask for 10 bucks more than market value and if the card is popular and comes up often, I won't sell it. If the card doesn't come up that often and someone also thinks Beanie Wells will rush for 700 yards, they shouldn't have a problem paying 10 bucks more.

I've paid more than market value quite often for cards that I think will increase in value and they have. I've never looked back and thought to myself, "Why didn't I get that card for market value!?" Instead, I think to myself, "WOW I'm glad I grabbed that card when I did, even if I overpaid because I'd be paying almost double now"

Seriously, speculating on the future is a risk. I bet there are quite a few people cursing over not purchasing Mike Trout cards months ago when I asked 5 dollars over market value.

 

[coltsfan23]

The one thing I don't quite understand is the lack of negotiation while trying to work out a deal. Very often, my items are priced slightly below Ebay. Most people just say "I'll pass," though. There's no counteroffer and there's no negotiation whatsoever. It takes only a few minutes, really, to send a PM with a counter price. I've especially noticed this on other boards.

 

[ozzie's translator]

Make separate sections for priced and offers :lol:

 

[yanksno1]

As primarily a buyer, I typically stop looking if there are no prices listed. I'm not one to haggle. A seller wants what they want for a card and I'm willing to pay what I'm willing to pay. Going back and forth over a couple of dollars is not for me. In the same amount of time I could buy 10 different cards from someone else or ebay.

That said, I don't think that sellers should be forced to list prices, but they should know that there are some buyers out there, myself included, that will just skip to the next thread. (Unless it's a Javy Vazquez 1/1 )

Great thread BTW. I like all of the different opinions.

 

[thegreathambino]

Yea, I enjoy when people list prices too, although I will admit I havn't listed prices all the time. For now on I will. I hate when people ask for offers, and then they get offended or don't reply when they don't like the offer. Like, the least you can say is no thanks.

 

[matfanofold]

FCB is not a store or an auction house. It's just hobbiests and collectors alike. I see no problem with thoes who list prices, or thoes who ask for offers. If either option bothers you, then by all means move along. The simple and basic truth behind it is that both parties will have to agree with a price before a sale is made. How that comes about is personal prefrence. Having said that, I'd rather see prices listed, but have no ill will towards thoes who do not. What bothers me more is when I see someone trying to sell a card for more than it's currently worth, argues with people and is condescending in his negotiations, then ultimately makes several threads over the span of a couple weeks trying to sell the same card.

 

[Jastermereel]

I nearly always list prices. I sold 2 out of 3 cards I listed last week at my price. If something is "too rare" and "you don't know what it's worth" then how can you sell it unless you have a price in mind?

 

[SamHell]

If the card is not priced, I move along. It's your card. You should know how much you want for it. If I want an auction, I'll go to ebay. That said, It's your card. Putting a price on its up to you. I don't feel sellers should be forced to put a price out there if they don't want to.

 

[Sean_C]

I apply the following logic at card shows: if you can't tell me what you want for your card, I can't tell you how much I'm willing to pay. I'd apply the same logic to buying things on BST forums as well, if I ever bought anything from them.

 

[matchpenalty]

If no price is listed, then I just move on. Makes no sense to offer a card for sale with no price listed. Most people don't want to sit around and wait for an email for a price.