Why part of LBJ fans think LBJ is the same as MJ ?

[KandKCards]

None of that disproved any of what I said before.
I'll say it again: anyone who says Jordan is unarguably better (at this point in their careers) is a fool and doesn't understand the game.

Since we're using videos now...

Thank you for sharing. but that video would not able to be compared with MJ's dominant.

Of course, LBJ has been crazy.

But the most important thing is his opponent , PO and Final.

The reason why I upload above games, that is one of the worst MJ game.
(and MJ's opponent is The Dream's Rockets...)

But even Worst Game, MJ was like that.


And for Kobe VS LBJ match-up. They couldn't match-up at Final yet.

Similar mlbsalltimegreats's comment, If you watch MJ game, you would not be able to compare with MJ at least now.


MJ's Opponent was too much.
Zeke + Dumars, Bird+Mchale, Sir Charles(he was 76ers as you know), Magic(final), Drexler(final),Miller+Smits(later), Ewing+Starks etc..and look at their name...most of them are HOF or super legend.

How about LBJ?

Only Kobe? and KG's Celtics and DH12(too weak than Legend Centers..very nice in this league though)'s Magic..and a few?

If you consider that, Rather LBJ would have to win most of game definitely. If not, it is buster.



Do you think LBJ would be able to break Bad boys if LBJ goes to post-1980's?

I don't think so. Even if Pip is there with LBJ, Pip would be useless. Badboys was crazy. not like now a days pistons.
(Of course, Pistons won Champ and great team until last season but they can't reach badboys.)


I don't think LBJ would be able to exceed 1986 Celtics and 1956 Celtics definitely.

Even Pippen and Grant will be given to him, he would not be able to win any game.
(You guys saw LBJ was swept by Spurs(final 4-0) already)



Before at least 5-6 winning champ, many people will think LBJ is not level of MJ.

But IMO, considering these days environment(KG and Duncan will retire within a few years..), LBJ will have to get 7-9 rings if he is real guy.



The craziest thing for MJ, MJ won't play roughly.

He played with his full passion every games.
(Of course, LBJ has done his best but can't reach MJ...I don't tell whole career MJ VS now LBJ. Same Season MJ VS LBJ)


At least like Drexler match-up, if LBJ scores 40+++ against Final Game # 1 against Kobe(If they matchup) and Lakers can't do anything, at least LBJ nearly would be or not MJ Level.



If you didn't watch whole MJ's game(especially PO and Final), you can't tell about MJ.


Over 40+++ at season is less meaningful.


I can't understand why LBJ addicted guys(they tells always LBJ is already over MJ) always say without watching any MJ crazy video...


SO if someone wants to know how MJ is the craziest, I would recommend below games.(I consider most of people don't have much time so only a few games..lol)

Below is from my memory so it would not be exact but roughly..

1986 Playoff Game # 2 Bulls @ Celtics

1990 PO CF any game Bulls VS Pistons

1990 Final Game # 2 Bulls VS Lakers MJ Vs Magic

1991 Final Game # 1 Bulls VS Blazers - MJ VS Glider

1992 Final Game # 6 Bulls @ Suns - MJ VS Sir Charles

1995 Final any game Bulls VS Sonics - MJ VS Shawn Kemp

I would not want to tell you watching Jazz Final because too famous and there is less tension for MJ.
(I felt MJ was more convinience than other final at Jazz Game. )


And to watch classic games, age is not important.

You can find most of famous(especailly MJ's) games in famous P2P.

 

[G $MONEY$]

Ive seen both of their careers from the beginning and at this point in time, i gotta also say that LBJ is better and more of a mature player tha MJ was, at that point in his career.

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[Bornagaincollector]

I have had the pleasure of seeing both of them play.Jordan broke my heart a few times as a Cavs fan in the playoffs.I would say that Lebron is a beast and the best all-around player in the league rightnow.I just don't think he is in Jordans league rightnow.

Jordan is overrated to a certain extent,but nobody has ever come close to his level when it is playoff time,he was the best i ever seen!

Maybe Lebron gets into that Level with a few championships,that 48 points in Detroit where he scored the last 25 points for Cleveland,tells me he is capable of doing it.

 

[mlbsalltimegreats]

None of that disproved any of what I said before.
I'll say it again: anyone who says Jordan is unarguably better (at this point in their careers) is a fool and doesn't understand the game.

KandK you have some good stuff that you point out but this is the funniest thing you have said. You are basically saying that we are fools if we believe that Micheal Jordan (THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY THE GAME) is arguably better than Lebron James at this point in their Careers. Listen to what you are saying!! We are not arguing about any player we are arguing about Micheal Jordan being better than Lebron whether it's now or yesterday. I could see you calling us fools if we said that John Starks was better than Lebron at this point in there careers but we are not, we are talking about Micheal Jordan. Look Lebron has a Bright, Bright future and I am excited to see what he does in his career so I am on the wagon but until Lebron gets close to 5 MVP Awards, 6 Finals MVP awards, 6 Titles, Defensive player of the year award, 10 scoring titles (all done in a row) I could go on and on. Lets talk more about this once Lebron gets close to this. Out of that list of accomplishments So far he (Lebron James) has 1 scoring title, so he is on his way right? Now for those that say Micheal Jordan is underrated has to be the craziest comment I have ever heard. If the accomplishments I bolded are overrated then I am done with basketball!!!

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

None of that disproved any of what I said before.
I'll say it again: anyone who says Jordan is unarguably better (at this point in their careers) is a fool and doesn't understand the game.

KandK you have some good stuff that you point out but this is the funniest thing you have said. You are basically saying that we are fools if we believe that Micheal Jordan (THE BEST PLAYER TO PLAY THE GAME) is arguably better than Lebron James at this point in their Careers. Listen to what you are saying!! We are not arguing about any player we are arguing about Micheal Jordan being better than Lebron whether it's now or yesterday. I could see you calling us fools if we said that John Starks was better than Lebron at this point in there careers but we are not, we are talking about Micheal Jordan. Look Lebron has a Bright, Bright future and I am excited to see what he does in his career so I am on the wagon but until Lebron gets close to 5 MVP Awards, 6 Finals MVP awards, 6 Titles, Defensive player of the year award, 10 scoring titles (all done in a row) I could go on and on. Lets talk more about this once Lebron gets close to this. Out of that list of accomplishments So far he (Lebron James) has 1 scoring title, so he is on his way right? Now for those that say Micheal Jordan is underrated has to be the craziest comment I have ever heard. If the accomplishments I bolded are overrated then I am done with basketball!!!

He said "to this point in their careers" so MJ didn't have the 5 MVP's, 6 Finals MVP's, 6 Titles...

Looking by the numbers they are close "at this point" and of course if you look at MJ's 10+ years it is better than Lebron's first few years. But MJ's first few compared to Lebron's first few are close, and the edge may even go to Lebron.

 

[Guest]

they are both unbelievable players....and everyone has a right to their own opinion of course....and mine....LeBron is probably ONE OF THE GREATEST SF's the league has ever seen.......and Jordan is ONE OF THE GREATEST SG's the league has ever seen.....read the bold area's of my reply so my opinion is....it's absolutely ridiculous to compare guys who played two different positions in two different era's with two completely different supporting casts....don't jump me....it's just my opinion

 

[mlbsalltimegreats]

they are both unbelievable players....and everyone has a right to their own opinion of course....and mine....LeBron is probably ONE OF THE GREATEST SF's the league has ever seen.......and Jordan is ONE OF THE GREATEST SG's the league has ever seen.....read the bold area's of my reply so my opinion is....it's absolutely ridiculous to compare guys who played two different positions in two different era's with two completely different supporting casts....don't jump me....it's just my opinion

Very good point. I think I just have a problem when I look at Jordans overall accomplishments that clearly Superseed anything that Lebron has done Because Lebron has not had enough time yet he is still very young and has many many years to build his legacy. So with that said he cannot be in the same breath as Micheal Jordan right now. We can all say he is on his way (I think that myself) but so was Grant Hill and so Was Vince Carter and so was Kobe Bryant. He hasnt even surpassed Kobe Bryant accomplishments and Kobe is no where near Jordans accomplishments. So comparing what Lebron has done and whether or not he is the greatest is way way to early.

 

[Guest]

they are both unbelievable players....and everyone has a right to their own opinion of course....and mine....LeBron is probably ONE OF THE GREATEST SF's the league has ever seen.......and Jordan is ONE OF THE GREATEST SG's the league has ever seen.....read the bold area's of my reply so my opinion is....it's absolutely ridiculous to compare guys who played two different positions in two different era's with two completely different supporting casts....don't jump me....it's just my opinion

Very good point. I think I just have a problem when I look at Jordans overall accomplishments that clearly Superseed anything that Lebron has done Because Lebron has not had enough time yet he is still very young and has many many years to build his legacy. So with that said he cannot be in the same breath as Micheal Jordan right now. We can all say he is on his way (I think that myself) but so was Grant Hill and so Was Vince Carter and so was Kobe Bryant. He hasnt even surpassed Kobe Bryant accomplishments and Kobe is no where near Jordans accomplishments. So comparing what Lebron has done and whether or not he is the greatest is way way to early.

I agree...comparing accomplishments...they don't compare.