Will paypal side in your favor if Beckett says unauthentic?

[flightposite]

Wondering if any of you know (or even what you think) paypal would do if you purchased a patch card off ebay and it was kicked back from beckett grading as unauthentic?

 

[HPC]

Maybe.

It would depend alot on how the auction was worded and described

 

[muchuckwagon]

My guess is your window to open a dispute has closed?

 

[phillyfan0417]

its worth a shot although it may be tough.

 

[nyc3]

I think you have 45 days from getting the item to open a claim, I may be wrong though not very certain on this one.

 

[flightposite]

I think you have 45 days from getting the item to open a claim, I may be wrong though not very certain on this one.

Yeah. Not worried about the window.

 

[ru4scuba]

Wondering if any of you know (or even what you think) paypal would do if you purchased a patch card off ebay and it was kicked back from beckett grading as unauthentic?

God knows... I've lost some disputes that I thought were obviously fraud on the seller's part and won some that I've had little evidence to back my case. Paypal seems to be inconsistent with their rulings.

 

[JoshHamilton]

Sorry, Beckett only grades the authenticity of the card, not the patch

 

[soccerman034]

For Donruss, at least, you can send cards in to have their swatches verified (although I am not sure how much its costs). The process is shown at their FAQ page: http://www.donruss.com/faq.cfm

Each company should really scan each version of their prime pieces before releasing them.

 

[daveyou]

bo, if u dont mind, scan of the card in question?

i remember a while back when beckett slabbed that 06 ripken fake patch that was deemed authentic but i guess now they take more into consideration? or does the border look at all damaged, like tampered with?

dave

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

Bo,

I'm confused by this seller. He appears to sell almost purely auto'd memorabilia with a "COA", so his past auctions don't scream patch faker. At the same time, I don't see any damage to the patch window.

That said, like I told you earlier, it just looks too good to be true.

Craig

 

[nyc3]

Sorry, Beckett only grades the authenticity of the card, not the patch

Not true they have bounced back several as of late due to being fake.

 

[mazarazz]

Haven't dealt with Beckett, but have with PSA...

I took a chance on a high quality looking Nolan Ryan RC that I had a good feeling was fake, had a psa grading coupon to use. Sure enough I could tell the card was fake as soon as I received it; flimsy card stock among other things. I assumed that I'd use my voucher to confirm the fake and win the claim I filed with paypal and have my $ in no time. Because PSA labeled the card "questionable authenticity" paypal would not decide the claim in my favor. However, I was able to win my claim. Paypal instructed me to get a written claim from an industry expert assessing the fraudulence of the card. I had my local shop owner take a look and type something up for me and sign it. Paypal was satisfied with letter and eventually returned my $ to my account. Couple days later I took my refunded cash and bought a few boxes at the shop.

I don't recall if Beckett labels them inauthentic(I believe you stated inauthentic) or questionable authenticity, could that verbiage make a difference in the way Paypal views the graders' opinions?

 

[flightposite]

Bo,

I'm confused by this seller. He appears to sell almost purely auto'd memorabilia with a "COA", so his past auctions don't scream patch faker. At the same time, I don't see any damage to the patch window.

That said, like I told you earlier, it just looks too good to be true.

Craig

He purchased it at a dreaded card show, so who knows what kind of seller it comes from.