Will the baseball nerds ruin the sport with cybermetrics and WAR stuff?

[ThoseBackPages]

Sad to see so many upset that Cabrera was awarded the MVP. To see people so reliant on "THE NUMBERS" about this and that. Takes away from the game as a whole. Of course, that's just me and my opinion.

 

[George_Calfas]

Sad to see so many upset that Cabrera was awarded the MVP. To see people so reliant on "THE NUMBERS" about this and that. Takes away from the game as a whole. Of course, that's just me and my opinion.

Verlander and Trout had the higher WAR yet lost the award race, Price was 3rd.

 

[alwayson22]

I don't see how computing a player's overall value "ruins the sport", especially since every front office uses advanced metrics to value players.

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

Sad to see so many upset that Cabrera was awarded the MVP. To see people so reliant on "THE NUMBERS" about this and that. Takes away from the game as a whole. Of course, that's just me and my opinion.

No, they won't. It only takes away from the game if you let. Cabrera DID win the award this year, didn't he?

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Even nerds should be able to realize that a proper balance between cybermetrics and traditional metrics is necessary when evaluating anything.

 

[hive17]

If WAR matters sooooo much, then just give the MVP to the person with the highest (qualified) WAR at the end of the season. No more voting.

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

I don't see how computing a player's overall value "ruins the sport", especially since every front office uses advanced metrics to value players.

Exactly. It is just another metric. Front offices would be foolish not to use them. And writers would be foolish not to value narrative. Nothing's ruined either way.

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

If WAR matters sooooo much, then just give the MVP to the person with the highest (qualified) WAR at the end of the season. No more voting.

Right. Leading in WAR can be its own award. Let's continue to see who the writers vote for.

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

WAR is a useful tool but it is not the be all that ends all. It is but one piece of the puzzle that should be looked at along with everything else.

 

[morgoth]

Until there are more meaningful ways to measure defense statistically WAR is flawed and shouldn't be used by itself for any meaningful discussions on who was more valuable as a player.

 

[thefatguy]

SABRmetrics

Society for American Baseball Research

 

[jbhofmann]

You guys talking WAR are already old. The next great stat is WPA ( win probability added).

 

[jrinne]

Triple Crown = MVP no questions asked.

 

[scotty216brs]

Triple Crown = MVP no questions asked.

Which is why only about half of Triple Crown winners have won the MVP?

 

[jbhofmann]

Triple Crown = MVP no questions asked.

 

[MojoDan]

Which is why only about half of Triple Crown winners have won the MVP?

None worse that Ted Williams winning the Triple Crown twice and not getting it...

 

[Hallsgator]

People who think this MVP debate is about stats really don't know what they are talking about. For both sides.

 

[Hallsgator]

Even nerds should be able to realize that a proper balance between cybermetrics and traditional metrics is necessary when evaluating anything.

You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

 

[Lars]

Trout maybe the greatest thing since sliced bread but advanced stats haven't evolved far enough to dictate who had the better story like Cabrera's where he did nail down something which hasn't been done in 46 years.

 

[notjomommasclint]

No but them ramming it down our throats like we're Linda Lovelace will.