Wilmer Flores' Autograph

[Ian Stewart]

Met Flores today and got him to sign an OMLB, so I figured you holders of his BDP would be interested to see what the autograph on the BDP/Contenders/Threads might look like should he sign. I haven't seen any other Flores autographs out there, so here 'ya go. Jefry Marte is the other ball, if anybody is interested in seeing that as well.

 

[mburgin]

looks like wilmer flores and angel villalona learned how to write there name at the same place/time to me.

 

[kentuckyderby]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

 

[Ian Stewart]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

 

[Bruin7]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

 

[mburgin]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

not to mention that Topps always has someone there witnessing the signing, they don't just send you the cards/labels to sign like other companies do.

 

[Wes]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

 

[Ian Stewart]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

How many times do you think Flores signed his name back home?

 

[Bruin7]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

That's a fair reply but I'm banking on the fact that many of these kids aren't your typical scholar athlete. They're brought up to play ball and that's it. I remember reading an article back in the day about Manny Ramirez and his reading/writing level (something like a 6th grader's competency).

Allen

 

[goblue6919]

Wow his signature looks completely different to when I got him SS OMLB when he was in short season last year.

I'll post a picture of the ball later

 

[WoundedDuck]

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

I was gonna say the same thing....but I then thought about an interesting article in the ESPN mag a few weeks ago that talked about the baseball camps in the Dominican Republic. I'm not sure what it's like in Venezuela, but if he's been groomed for baseball from a very young age in a camp like that, it's possible he's had very little if any education.

Even if the lettering system is the same here and there, if you've never been taught how to read or write very well, it could be tough.

 

[Wes]

[quote="Ian Stewart":1gaqced3]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

How many times do you think Flores signed his name back home?[/quote:1gaqced3]

I'd say that speaks more to his education and literacy than it does to any translation problem. I could sign my name perfectly well as soon as I could write - something a lot of these foreign ballplayers never get the chance to do since they get thrown into baseball academies and taken out of school.

 

[Wes]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

That's a fair reply but I'm banking on the fact that many of these kids aren't your typical scholar athlete. They're brought up to play ball and that's it. I remember reading an article back in the day about Manny Ramirez and his reading/writing level (something like a 6th grader's competency).

Allen

Pretty sad considering he went to HS in the United States :/

 

[Ian Stewart]

[quote="Ian Stewart":31bd80og]

Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

How many times do you think Flores signed his name back home?

I'd say that speaks more to his education and literacy than it does to any translation problem. I could sign my name perfectly well as soon as I could write - something a lot of these foreign ballplayers never get the chance to do since they get thrown into baseball academies and taken out of school.[/quote:31bd80og]

I was speaking more on the "his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to". I doubt he received much, if any, schooling/guidance in his writing. It's quite similar to going to a foreign country, as he was probably not familiar with the concept of autographs before he came here. Sure, the whole difference in symbols needs to be taken into account, but I highly doubt he's signed many autographs before he came to the US.

 

[MTBright]

[quote="kentuckyderby":2mbj0kp6]Does anyone know if Topps going to redeem his BDP?

I was going to ask him, but he told me he didn't speak English when I asked him a question.

He took awhile (well, more than everybody else takes) to sign the ball, so who knows? I haven't seen a Flores autograph and if he is just really learning to do it, it may take quite awhile to redeem.

Hmmm, that would make sense why he's taking eons to get his Bowman Chrome and Donruss/Playoff labels signed. Imagine if you had to go to Japan or China and sign 2000+ signatures in their characters. I don't even want to think about it as there are tons of strokes in Chinese characters.

Allen

I wouldn't say that's really a fair comparison - Flore's home country uses the same lettering system as we do - his signature shouldn't be any different than he is used to.

That's a fair reply but I'm banking on the fact that many of these kids aren't your typical scholar athlete. They're brought up to play ball and that's it. I remember reading an article back in the day about Manny Ramirez and his reading/writing level (something like a 6th grader's competency).

Allen

Pretty sad considering he went to HS in the United States :/[/quote:2mbj0kp6]


I have had kids reading on the 2nd and 3rd grade levels. they dont read the parents dont read. only read at school.

we figure jail populations on 4th grade reading states. “if the child isn’t reading on 4th grade level when tested they will plan to budget building another jail cell."

 

[pjnprospects]

That signature is very different then the one I recieved this year while he was at brooklyn. The one you got is more legible and almost every letter. Below is a scan of mine (Wilmer is on the right). A similar thing had happened with Angel Villalona. I wonder which sig will be on the redemptions if they get redeemed.

I got Angel Villalona after a Lakewood/Augusta game last year and I got a scribble graph. But his chrome auto is much more legibal and basically print opposed to the scribble sig I got. So I guess it may be a toss up with some of these kids, who are still trying to figure out there signatures.

 

[GAbballplayer148]

Another board member and myself have a theory about Villalona's auto cards. It isn't him.