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[promodeltodd]

People can complain all they want.

Steinbrenner made MLB what it is today. Do I agree that these players should make thismuch money? No. But he spends money to put a winning team on the field. Is that not what every player, and every team wants to do?

The whole story about Damon is lame and more bitterness from RedSox fans. Spin it any way you want, Damon chose to go to another team like he did when he left Kansas City and just like when he left Oakland. Bring up all the players you want about PUBLICLY saying they will never play for the RedSox after playing for the Yankees. We can start a list of RedSox players that said the same thing, we will start with Bill Lee. The guy absolutely hated, and STILL hates the Yankees, so what? As a Yankee fan I can still say I like the guy, respect the guy, and enjoyed meeting him this summer. It does't make him a bad guy.

This all comes down to people need to spend more time supporting their team instead of hating the Yankees. Take some of that anger and write your teams owner about making better decisions or spend money better. You don't like the way the Yankees spend money, buy your own team and do what you want with it. Are the Cubs still for sale?

People just need to come up with some realistic arguments instead of clinging to half truths and look at their team and how they run it before complaining. Better yet, take your team, give it bottomless pockets. If they could put a team that finishes in the top 5 for best records for 10 years and make the playoffs 9 out of 10 years and even go to a world series, win or lose, would you take it? 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...gets kinda old, doesn't it. Just like this whole Yankee hating thing.

Have a nice day.

 

[ostrander111]

^ Whoa. Thats a lot of year after years.....that must have taken you years to post...

 

[promodeltodd]

the reasons to hate this spending is it puts the market out of whack.

- you have the yankees and sox bidding players contracts way up forcing the other teams to pony up or miss out. this leaves the other teams strapped in pursuing other proven players. then 3 years in you see a fire sale and short ended prospect trades that only benefit the teams with the most money.

- it throws off the market for players on the downhill side of their career. take johnny damon... a great fielding small balling leadoff man who is past his prime. the contract the yankees offer is 4 years and too much .5 million. now you have other players whose stats are just below, equal, or greater than captain caveman earning well above their skill level.

- it provides the agent with a way to falsley inflate free agents values. the rumor of the yankees or sox or mets being involved adds instant value to their player. anyone think at the time of signing zito was worth 126mil? no inflation and false demand increase the perception of value.

i prefer the way the yankees spend money instead of how the royals do but i wish there was a way to evaluate the contracts without the bidding and inflating that goes on. it would be a cheaper game for the fans to watch and would level the field out for most teams. i still dont understand how the yankees can pay out these contracts but cannot afford to build their own stadium without public money... :?

Of course it is out of whack my point is they are playing by someone elses rules. I understand big market vs small market but that is why they have the luxury tax. I think that tax standards need to come down to give these other small market teams the extra funds to get some good signings/better scouting.

Why? Many of those teams don't spend that money anyway. Agaihn, complain about your team and what they are not doing. It will be so nice this year when the Yankees are not paying these teams the luxury tax. Then the stuff will hit the fan.

 

[Wes]

the reasons to hate this spending is it puts the market out of whack.

- you have the yankees and sox bidding players contracts way up forcing the other teams to pony up or miss out. this leaves the other teams strapped in pursuing other proven players. then 3 years in you see a fire sale and short ended prospect trades that only benefit the teams with the most money.

- it throws off the market for players on the downhill side of their career. take johnny damon... a great fielding small balling leadoff man who is past his prime. the contract the yankees offer is 4 years and too much .5 million. now you have other players whose stats are just below, equal, or greater than captain caveman earning well above their skill level.

- it provides the agent with a way to falsley inflate free agents values. the rumor of the yankees or sox or mets being involved adds instant value to their player. anyone think at the time of signing zito was worth 126mil? no inflation and false demand increase the perception of value.

i prefer the way the yankees spend money instead of how the royals do but i wish there was a way to evaluate the contracts without the bidding and inflating that goes on. it would be a cheaper game for the fans to watch and would level the field out for most teams. i still dont understand how the yankees can pay out these contracts but cannot afford to build their own stadium without public money... :?

Of course it is out of whack my point is they are playing by someone elses rules. I understand big market vs small market but that is why they have the luxury tax. I think that tax standards need to come down to give these other small market teams the extra funds to get some good signings/better scouting.

Many of the "small market" teams have the funds and don't spend them, instead choosing to turn a profit than put out a winner. The tax is not going to make a difference.

 

[MallCopKJ]

People can complain all they want.

Steinbrenner made MLB what it is today. Do I agree that these players should make thismuch money? No. But he spends money to put a winning team on the field. Is that not what every player, and every team wants to do?

The whole story about Damon is lame and more bitterness from RedSox fans. Spin it any way you want, Damon chose to go to another team like he did when he left Kansas City and just like when he left Oakland. Bring up all the players you want about PUBLICLY saying they will never play for the RedSox after playing for the Yankees. We can start a list of RedSox players that said the same thing, we will start with Bill Lee. The guy absolutely hated, and STILL hates the Yankees, so what? As a Yankee fan I can still say I like the guy, respect the guy, and enjoyed meeting him this summer. It does't make him a bad guy.

This all comes down to people need to spend more time supporting their team instead of hating the Yankees. Take some of that anger and write your teams owner about making better decisions or spend money better. You don't like the way the Yankees spend money, buy your own team and do what you want with it. Are the Cubs still for sale?

People just need to come up with some realistic arguments instead of clinging to half truths and look at their team and how they run it before complaining. Better yet, take your team, give it bottomless pockets. If they could put a team that finishes in the top 5 for best records for 10 years and make the playoffs 9 out of 10 years and even go to a world series, win or lose, would you take it? 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...gets kinda old, doesn't it. Just like this whole Yankee hating thing.

Have a nice day.

Im a Red Sox fan brotha. Its been a few nice YEARS since '04.

 

[promodeltodd]

Im a Red Sox fan brotha. Its been a few nice YEARS since '04.

[/quote]

I never would have guessed with all your complaining and Yankee threads the last month or so.

My guess is you and any Red Sox fan will always find something to complain about.

 

[MallCopKJ]

Im a Red Sox fan brotha. Its been a few nice YEARS since '04.

I never would have guessed with all your complaining and Yankee threads the last month or so.

My guess is you and any Red Sox fan will always find something to complain about.[/quote]

Its all in good fun. Not like Yankees fans have any love/good things to say about Red Sox fans. Believe me, its nothing personal against anyone. I just think the way the Steinbrenners choose to run things is laughable. Its quite opposite of the New England sports way of handling business. The Yankees seem to be quite open about the way they feel about things but half the time it isnt true. Funny that they criticized the Red Sox for using a personal plane to travel, making it seem like their so conservative with their cash and yet they spent almost half a billion dollars in 1 offseason.

Anyways I dont think a lot of Red Sox fans actually hate the players (Yankees fans might actually hate Red Sox players but I cant tell you that). I know anything I see the Yankees do and anything I say is said with a smile on my face because in the end its all just a game and it is entertaining. Just a high stakes chess match in my mind and neither team wants to lose.

 

[notjomommasclint]

no one in their right mind would argue that damons contract was a solid investment. his skills are fading or have faded and he is still earning top dollar. i look a cc like a used truck. his heavy frame has had 2 owners in 7 years. the last owner drove the piss out of him and he is a 1 cold day from breaking down. you might get 2 or 3 seasons out of him but if you are caught holding the lease in 4yrs when it breaks down your inequity will cost you dearly. so you might cast this off as having a red sox bias but we cant talk about the sox cause they are throwing 400mil at slightly above average players with long drawn out contracts... yet!

 

[jcmint]

the reasons to hate this spending is it puts the market out of whack.

- you have the yankees and sox bidding players contracts way up forcing the other teams to pony up or miss out. this leaves the other teams strapped in pursuing other proven players. then 3 years in you see a fire sale and short ended prospect trades that only benefit the teams with the most money.

- it throws off the market for players on the downhill side of their career. take johnny damon... a great fielding small balling leadoff man who is past his prime. the contract the yankees offer is 4 years and too much .5 million. now you have other players whose stats are just below, equal, or greater than captain caveman earning well above their skill level.

- it provides the agent with a way to falsley inflate free agents values. the rumor of the yankees or sox or mets being involved adds instant value to their player. anyone think at the time of signing zito was worth 126mil? no inflation and false demand increase the perception of value.

i prefer the way the yankees spend money instead of how the royals do but i wish there was a way to evaluate the contracts without the bidding and inflating that goes on. it would be a cheaper game for the fans to watch and would level the field out for most teams. i still dont understand how the yankees can pay out these contracts but cannot afford to build their own stadium without public money... :?

Of course it is out of whack my point is they are playing by someone elses rules. I understand big market vs small market but that is why they have the luxury tax. I think that tax standards need to come down to give these other small market teams the extra funds to get some good signings/better scouting.

Why? Many of those teams don't spend that money anyway. Agaihn, complain about your team and what they are not doing. It will be so nice this year when the Yankees are not paying these teams the luxury tax. Then the stuff will hit the fan.

Dude I am one of the bigger yankee fans on these boards. Anyone can see the small market teams dont have the cash to do what the bigs do. It is certainly out of whack.

 

[jcmint]

the reasons to hate this spending is it puts the market out of whack.

- you have the yankees and sox bidding players contracts way up forcing the other teams to pony up or miss out. this leaves the other teams strapped in pursuing other proven players. then 3 years in you see a fire sale and short ended prospect trades that only benefit the teams with the most money.

- it throws off the market for players on the downhill side of their career. take johnny damon... a great fielding small balling leadoff man who is past his prime. the contract the yankees offer is 4 years and too much .5 million. now you have other players whose stats are just below, equal, or greater than captain caveman earning well above their skill level.

- it provides the agent with a way to falsley inflate free agents values. the rumor of the yankees or sox or mets being involved adds instant value to their player. anyone think at the time of signing zito was worth 126mil? no inflation and false demand increase the perception of value.

i prefer the way the yankees spend money instead of how the royals do but i wish there was a way to evaluate the contracts without the bidding and inflating that goes on. it would be a cheaper game for the fans to watch and would level the field out for most teams. i still dont understand how the yankees can pay out these contracts but cannot afford to build their own stadium without public money... :?

Of course it is out of whack my point is they are playing by someone elses rules. I understand big market vs small market but that is why they have the luxury tax. I think that tax standards need to come down to give these other small market teams the extra funds to get some good signings/better scouting.

Many of the "small market" teams have the funds and don't spend them, instead choosing to turn a profit than put out a winner. The tax is not going to make a difference.

Did you read my first post in this thread....

 

[predatorkj]

the reasons to hate this spending is it puts the market out of whack.

- you have the yankees and sox bidding players contracts way up forcing the other teams to pony up or miss out. this leaves the other teams strapped in pursuing other proven players. then 3 years in you see a fire sale and short ended prospect trades that only benefit the teams with the most money.

- it throws off the market for players on the downhill side of their career. take johnny damon... a great fielding small balling leadoff man who is past his prime. the contract the yankees offer is 4 years and too much .5 million. now you have other players whose stats are just below, equal, or greater than captain caveman earning well above their skill level.

- it provides the agent with a way to falsley inflate free agents values. the rumor of the yankees or sox or mets being involved adds instant value to their player. anyone think at the time of signing zito was worth 126mil? no inflation and false demand increase the perception of value.

i prefer the way the yankees spend money instead of how the royals do but i wish there was a way to evaluate the contracts without the bidding and inflating that goes on. it would be a cheaper game for the fans to watch and would level the field out for most teams. i still dont understand how the yankees can pay out these contracts but cannot afford to build their own stadium without public money... :?

Of course it is out of whack my point is they are playing by someone elses rules. I understand big market vs small market but that is why they have the luxury tax. I think that tax standards need to come down to give these other small market teams the extra funds to get some good signings/better scouting.

Why? Many of those teams don't spend that money anyway. Agaihn, complain about your team and what they are not doing. It will be so nice this year when the Yankees are not paying these teams the luxury tax. Then the stuff will hit the fan.

Dude I am one of the bigger yankee fans on these boards. Anyone can see the small market teams dont have the cash to do what the bigs do. It is certainly out of whack.

Basically it would be like me and a couple of other collectors buying up someting in particular ....lets just say a Griffey Upper Deck rookie...for ungodly amounts just because we can and nobody else could outbid us.So now we have overinflated a card worth a mere $40 to some astronomical amount and nobody else can afford one.Not to mention that paying these players this kind of money translates to increased prices in the stadium for seats.

This can only end badly.Sure the yankees could end up buying the farm on a few players if/when they break down but in the end...the fans are the ones who have to pay the price.

 

[Guest]

People can complain all they want.

Steinbrenner made MLB what it is today. Do I agree that these players should make thismuch money? No. But he spends money to put a winning team on the field. Is that not what every player, and every team wants to do?

The whole story about Damon is lame and more bitterness from RedSox fans. Spin it any way you want, Damon chose to go to another team like he did when he left Kansas City and just like when he left Oakland. Bring up all the players you want about PUBLICLY saying they will never play for the RedSox after playing for the Yankees. We can start a list of RedSox players that said the same thing, we will start with Bill Lee. The guy absolutely hated, and STILL hates the Yankees, so what? As a Yankee fan I can still say I like the guy, respect the guy, and enjoyed meeting him this summer. It does't make him a bad guy.

This all comes down to people need to spend more time supporting their team instead of hating the Yankees. Take some of that anger and write your teams owner about making better decisions or spend money better. You don't like the way the Yankees spend money, buy your own team and do what you want with it. Are the Cubs still for sale?

People just need to come up with some realistic arguments instead of clinging to half truths and look at their team and how they run it before complaining. Better yet, take your team, give it bottomless pockets. If they could put a team that finishes in the top 5 for best records for 10 years and make the playoffs 9 out of 10 years and even go to a world series, win or lose, would you take it? Or would you enjoy not making the playoffs, always chasing that .500 record, year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year year after year after year after year after year after year after year 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...gets kinda old, doesn't it. Just like this whole Yankee hating thing.

Have a nice day.

Now that's my style!

 

[promodeltodd]

the reasons to hate this spending is it puts the market out of whack.

- you have the yankees and sox bidding players contracts way up forcing the other teams to pony up or miss out. this leaves the other teams strapped in pursuing other proven players. then 3 years in you see a fire sale and short ended prospect trades that only benefit the teams with the most money.

- it throws off the market for players on the downhill side of their career. take johnny damon... a great fielding small balling leadoff man who is past his prime. the contract the yankees offer is 4 years and too much .5 million. now you have other players whose stats are just below, equal, or greater than captain caveman earning well above their skill level.

- it provides the agent with a way to falsley inflate free agents values. the rumor of the yankees or sox or mets being involved adds instant value to their player. anyone think at the time of signing zito was worth 126mil? no inflation and false demand increase the perception of value.

i prefer the way the yankees spend money instead of how the royals do but i wish there was a way to evaluate the contracts without the bidding and inflating that goes on. it would be a cheaper game for the fans to watch and would level the field out for most teams. i still dont understand how the yankees can pay out these contracts but cannot afford to build their own stadium without public money... :?

Of course it is out of whack my point is they are playing by someone elses rules. I understand big market vs small market but that is why they have the luxury tax. I think that tax standards need to come down to give these other small market teams the extra funds to get some good signings/better scouting.

Why? Many of those teams don't spend that money anyway. Agaihn, complain about your team and what they are not doing. It will be so nice this year when the Yankees are not paying these teams the luxury tax. Then the stuff will hit the fan.

Dude I am one of the bigger yankee fans on these boards. Anyone can see the small market teams dont have the cash to do what the bigs do. It is certainly out of whack.

Basically it would be like me and a couple of other collectors buying up someting in particular ....lets just say a Griffey Upper Deck rookie...for ungodly amounts just because we can and nobody else could outbid us.So now we have overinflated a card worth a mere $40 to some astronomical amount and nobody else can afford one.Not to mention that paying these players this kind of money translates to increased prices in the stadium for seats.

This can only end badly.Sure the yankees could end up buying the farm on a few players if/when they break down but in the end...the fans are the ones who have to pay the price.

You don't need to explain anything to me. Of course players are over paid. Over course the Yankees spend a lot of money. Of course the Yankees have an advantage because of the bigger market.

The players union will not allow a cap anytime soon.

MLB will make a new luxury tax type set up long before there is a cap of any kind.

The players in the mean time, can go out adn work their tail off to become the best player they can. If that results in them being an all star calibur player that will allow them to be courted by high paying employers, then they are free to go where they want for what someone is willing to pay them. If they aren't so good, they will need to go to who will pay them.

 

[yankeefan812]

no one in their right mind would argue that damons contract was a solid investment. his skills are fading or have faded and he is still earning top dollar. i look a cc like a used truck. his heavy frame has had 2 owners in 7 years. the last owner drove the piss out of him and he is a 1 cold day from breaking down. you might get 2 or 3 seasons out of him but if you are caught holding the lease in 4yrs when it breaks down your inequity will cost you dearly. so you might cast this off as having a red sox bias but we cant talk about the sox cause they are throwing 400mil at slightly above average players with long drawn out contracts... yet!

wait i'm confused are you saying that CC and Tex are only slightly above average?

 

[cowboysrule48]

I have said it time after time. The problem is not in the lack of a strict salary cap. What will fix it is if MLB implemented a salary floor. Teams like the Royals and Pirates turn huge profits because their management refuses to pay big contracts when they can afford them. Profit sharing is not working, and it will not work until a floor is put into place. Baseball is a business, and the point of business it to make money. Nothing will change until the commissioner's office steps in and does something. A combo of profit sharing and a salary floor would force teams to spend the money to improve their teams, which is the point of the system.

 

[qualitycards94]

Moves like claiming they didnt offer Teixeira a contract and that they were not one of the "mystery" teams interested in signing him, only to sign him 2 days later doesnt help. A simple, "no comment" would have helped. As a Red Sox fan, I hate the fact that players on the Yankees have said they would never play for the Red Sox and dont, but a snake like Johnny Damon leaves Boston for there.

Good for him he has nothing to show for it, HA!

Yeah, except for 10 million dollars.

 

[nborton]

I have said it time after time. The problem is not in the lack of a strict salary cap. What will fix it is if MLB implemented a salary floor. Teams like the Royals and Pirates turn huge profits because their management refuses to pay big contracts when they can afford them. Profit sharing is not working, and it will not work until a floor is put into place. Baseball is a business, and the point of business it to make money. Nothing will change until the commissioner's office steps in and does something. A combo of profit sharing and a salary floor would force teams to spend the money to improve their teams, which is the point of the system.

Agreed. Although, I doubt the owners would allow it. Just like the players wouldn't go for a cap. I like the floor idea best, but I think a cap could happen first just based on the fact the owners have more power than the players in the end. It's easier to find replacement players than to find a replacement league.

 

[ballerskrip]

For me, the Yankess and Notre Dame are the exact same thing.

It's not the owner/dean
It's not the money/grades
It's not the team
It's not the success.....

It's the fans. Can't stand em. They are the people that push me to not like the team.

Joe, you are the exception bud! I have friends that are yankees and notre dame fans, but in my eyes, they are the exception.

Just my HONEST opinion.

matt

 

[dano7]

Never forget that its all about money....for the players, owners and agents. Winning is important to many of the owners, but it doesn't appear that is true of all.
I wish I knew what the answer was, but I don't. Making the owners spend the money from the luxury tax earnings and a salary floor seem like good starts. The money could either be put into contracts or development, as the development worked excellently for the Rays. I would really like to see a way for the smaller market teams to be able to keep the players they develop longer, as to many have to trade their budding stars as they know they'll lose them to free agency. Keeping at least a small base of players would help the fan loyalty for the teams and give them a chance to win.
I'm a Yankee fan, but more importantly a baseball fan. I'm even going to pull hard for the Salem Red Sox, which will be our local minor league team this coming season. Those who play here will become favorites, even when they reach the Red Sox.
DANNY

 

[Mighty Bombjack]

I have said it time after time. The problem is not in the lack of a strict salary cap. What will fix it is if MLB implemented a salary floor. Teams like the Royals and Pirates turn huge profits because their management refuses to pay big contracts when they can afford them. Profit sharing is not working, and it will not work until a floor is put into place. Baseball is a business, and the point of business it to make money. Nothing will change until the commissioner's office steps in and does something. A combo of profit sharing and a salary floor would force teams to spend the money to improve their teams, which is the point of the system.

Do you guys think that the Yankees lose money? All teams push to make a profit, it's just that the Yankees can spend well over 200 mil per and still flip it.

I don't hate on Steinbrenner, I respect his spending, for all of the reasons mentioned above. I just want you Yankees/Red Sox fans to recognize your team's inherent advantages, which you seem to be doing. I also agree with the inflating of FA prices, but such is life in a market economy.

As far as you Yankees fans go, my team has made it to the World Series more recently than your traveling free agent all-stars, and with 1/4 the payroll (only to be beaten by the Yanks in red).