With Marlins listening to offers for Giancarlo - who would you trade from your team?

[markakis8]

I think he could put the Orioles into annual contending mode if they could somehow land him. And if we could trade Gausman, I would totally ship out Bundy and Gausman tomorrow.

Not sure if this would peak the Marlins interest or not, but I would put two MLB ready arms in the package:

Bundy
Tillman
Britton
Schoop
Ed. Rodriguez
Avery

for

Stanton
Mike Dunn

If your team needs someone like Stanton, what would you give up for him?

 

[Super Mario]

MLB should just contract the damn Marlins.


They are an embarrassment to baseball.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

id like to see him in Toronto

 

[rum151man]

Anywhere but the Yankees please

 

[Super Mario]

id like to see him in Toronto

I mean Hell, if we're going to get greedy, I'd love to see him in St. Louis, haha. But I have no idea who they'd give up for him.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'd offer the entire Astros team, to which the Marlins would respond "don't call us, we'll call you"

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Everyone in the minors or majors.

 

[HPC]

I personally dont think trading 5 prospects or 3 of the teams top prospects and 2 major leaguers for him is a good strategy for any team.

 

[James52411]

Too bad Ozzie Guillen got fired. Starlin Castro would have piqued his interest in a trade. Perhaps a package of Castro, Almora, and a pitching prospect would be a good start to a trade.

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

Are the Mets still paying Bobby Bonilla? Trade that contract for him

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[Pine Tar]

I would dump the whole marlins team between the league right now. And spare them from doing it after this season anyway.

 

[markakis8]

I personally dont think trading 5 prospects or 3 of the teams top prospects and 2 major leaguers for him is a good strategy for any team.

It's not like it's a one year rental. The Orioles would have control of Stanton, one of the best power hitters in the game today and not even in his prime, for four more years. I would easily give up a handful of young arms and unproven players - regardless of where they are ranked in the system - for that kind of power and team control. Especially b/c he fits two huge needs of the Orioles - LF and RH power bat.

You know the Tigers shelled out a decent chunk of their farm system for Miguel Cabrera and it worked out pretty well...while the players the Marlins got?

 

[HPC]

It's not like it's a one year rental. The Orioles would have control of Stanton, one of the best power hitters in the game today and not even in his prime, for four more years. I would easily give up a handful of young arms and unproven players - regardless of where they are ranked in the system - for that kind of power and team control. Especially b/c he fits two huge needs of the Orioles - LF and RH power bat.

You know the Tigers shelled out a decent chunk of their farm system for Miguel Cabrera and it worked out pretty well...while the players the Marlins got?

Im not saying it might not or wouldnt work out but in today's game where prospects are coveted to the point of being overvalued I just dont see it being a good strategy to clean house for one guy

Sure, it's easy to point out the Cabrera trade and see why it is a good idea but look at the Dbacks failures where they gave the farm away for--basically--one big name guy:

*Dec. 14, 2007, the Diamondbacks sent Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland, Carlos Gonzalez and Greg Smith to Oakland for Dan Haren and Connor Robertson.

*Dec. 1, 2003: Arizona trades Chris Capuano, Craig Counsell, Chad Moeller, Lyle Overbay, Jorge De La Rose and Junior Spivey to Milwaukee for Noochie Varner, Shane Nance and Richie Sexson. (Sexson basically played half a season of healthy ball for the Dbacks)

The Dbacks had the same mentality teams would now with Stanton: these prospects might never pan out so lets take the "sure thing" and help the team.

Only problem is, sometimes, it doesnt work out that way. The Brewers were a better team with those players while the Dbacks were left figuring out what just happened.

 

[markakis8]

Im not saying it might not or wouldnt work out but in today's game where prospects are coveted to the point of being overvalued I just dont see it being a good strategy to clean house for one guy

Sure, it's easy to point out the Cabrera trade and see why it is a good idea but look at the Dbacks failures where they gave the farm away for--basically--one big name guy:

*Dec. 14, 2007, the Diamondbacks sent Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland, Carlos Gonzalez and Greg Smith to Oakland for Dan Haren and Connor Robertson.

*Dec. 1, 2003: Arizona trades Chris Capuano, Craig Counsell, Chad Moeller, Lyle Overbay, Jorge De La Rose and Junior Spivey to Milwaukee for Noochie Varner, Shane Nance and Richie Sexson. (Sexson basically played half a season of healthy ball for the Dbacks)

The Dbacks had the same mentality teams would now with Stanton: these prospects might never pan out so lets take the "sure thing" and help the team.

Only problem is, sometimes, it doesnt work out that way. The Brewers were a better team with those players while the Dbacks were left figuring out what just happened.

Well the Dbacks/Athletics trade is just foolish to compare to my scenario - we are talking about a pitcher. I agree with you, regardless of how the prospects might turn out, trading that much for one arm is just silly. He can only impact your team once every 5 games.

With the Dbacks/Brewers trade - sure Sexson was a great power hitter at the time, but he was a dime a dozen during that time and played the least important position in the game - 1B. All he offered you was power. AND he left for free agency the following year, essentially making him a "one-year rental"

Giancarlo is a very unique situation. He's one of the best power hitters in the game, any team that traded for him would have control of him for 4 years, and he offers more to the game that just his power....AND he's not in his prime.

 

[morgoth]

Im not saying it might not or wouldnt work out but in today's game where prospects are coveted to the point of being overvalued I just dont see it being a good strategy to clean house for one guy

Sure, it's easy to point out the Cabrera trade and see why it is a good idea but look at the Dbacks failures where they gave the farm away for--basically--one big name guy:

*Dec. 14, 2007, the Diamondbacks sent Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland, Carlos Gonzalez and Greg Smith to Oakland for Dan Haren and Connor Robertson.

*Dec. 1, 2003: Arizona trades Chris Capuano, Craig Counsell, Chad Moeller, Lyle Overbay, Jorge De La Rose and Junior Spivey to Milwaukee for Noochie Varner, Shane Nance and Richie Sexson. (Sexson basically played half a season of healthy ball for the Dbacks)

The Dbacks had the same mentality teams would now with Stanton: these prospects might never pan out so lets take the "sure thing" and help the team.

Only problem is, sometimes, it doesnt work out that way. The Brewers were a better team with those players while the Dbacks were left figuring out what just happened.

It works both ways as just stated by both of you guys. It depends on how ready a team is to compete, how deep the farm system is and years of control involved. Stanton will take a huge offer due to the years of control he has left. A team like the Orioles makes sense due to the depth of their farm system and how close they are to a WS already. For a team like the Pirates or Astros it doesn't make sense because they are not just one player away from competing.

 

[markakis8]

The Marlins would be foolish to not trade Giancarlo right now. He's not happy, he's not going to help them in any capacity - even his monstrous home runs will not bring people to the ballpark. I really don't think they can sell any higher on him than right now b/c of the years of team control. They could get a really epic package of young talent from any team if they wanted to.

What about Texas? I would ship Profar and several young arms to Miami for Stanton.

 

[HPC]

The Marlins would be foolish to not trade Giancarlo right now. He's not happy, he's not going to help them in any capacity - even his monstrous home runs will not bring people to the ballpark. I really don't think they can sell any higher on him than right now b/c of the years of team control. They could get a really epic package of young talent from any team if they wanted to.

What about Texas? I would ship Profar and several young arms to Miami for Stanton.

Really they have one huge reason to keep him: ticket sales. Season and single game.

If they trade Stanton now it will be the final nail in the coffin that proves the ownership doesnt give 2 XXXXs about the team and wants to make as much money as possible while keeping payroll as low as it can be and their intentions all along were to get a lucrative new majority-publicly-funded stadium.

Stanton is probably the only reason most people want to go to their games now since the allure of a new stadium is gone.

Management's point of view: "he's pissed off? So what? He'll play or we'll suspend him without pay or Logan Morrison his ass."

Unless they get blown away (and I mean absolutely blown away) they have no incentive to move him now.

edit: also, as for the Haren deal, I agree it was stupid and everyone in AZ said so at the time. The point I was making was that Haren was a big name pitcher at that time that they gave away too much for and it backfired.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

The D-Backs did well in the Curt Schilling for Omar Daal, Travis Lee, Nelson Figueroa and Vicente Padilla deal.

 

[joey12508]

Anywhere but the Yankees please

that would be terrible:mrgreen:

 

[DRav87]

edit: also, as for the Haren deal, I agree it was stupid and everyone in AZ said so at the time. The point I was making was that Haren was a big name pitcher at that time that they gave away too much for and it backfired.

Let's not act like Haren sucked in Arizona. He was an All-Star in both of his full seasons in Arizona with 37-30 record for them. Yes, they did give up too much for him but it was nothing like the Richie Sexson deal, Haren at least played and played well.