With the Michael Taylor hype picking up...

[steve-a-reno]

I'm not a prospector by any means. Wondering if with the Michael Taylor hype picking up if I should sell the elite red status auto/25 I have of him or if I should wait and see if it continues to climb. I'm aware of the "what do you have in it" "don't be greedy" etc. type of prospector responses, but really just curious if his stuff has more room to grow or if it is near its max. Thanks

 

[soccerman034]

Sell it, and don't look back. The ultimate key to prospecting is taking profits when they are available, and not looking back.

 

[gt2590]

Hold, at least until the trading deadline. He might go to a team with a better chance to play sooner. I'm 95% sure he won't be traded, but his final stats will be more impressive anyway.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

I've got to say hold (or sell to me)! I've got several of these pup's & I'm holding as I'm comparing Taylor's number's to past player's whom had card's like this that completely flew out of the stratosphere for s period of time (getting $125 for the EEE Status Auto/25 is not that big of deal, considering what past EEE #d/25 got from hot player's)! If he can keep up anything near his pace he should get AA Eastern Player of the Year & he has a shot right now to win the "Triple Crown" (as he is leading or very close to leading nearly every offensive category across the board).... I've followed his progress & play for quite some time & I'm of the opinion that Taylor will be one of the better All-Star caliber power hitter's (as imo from his performance, he'll be a 30+ HR guy with a .300+ avg....throw in 10-15 sb's for good measure & "BOOM" or should I say "CHA-CHING"?!?!) :lol:
Good Luck & either way you're in a good position to be in!

 

[All The Hype]

I've got to say hold (or sell to me)! I've got several of these pup's & I'm holding as I'm comparing Taylor's number's to past player's whom had card's like this that completely flew out of the stratosphere for s period of time (getting $125 for the EEE Status Auto/25 is not that big of deal, considering what past EEE #d/25 got from hot player's)! If he can keep up anything near his pace he should get AA Eastern Player of the Year & he has a shot right now to win the "Triple Crown" (as he is leading or very close to leading nearly every offensive category across the board).... I've followed his progress & play for quite some time & I'm of the opinion that Taylor will be one of the better All-Star caliber power hitter's (as imo from his performance, he'll be a 30+ HR guy with a .300+ avg....throw in 10-15 sb's for good measure & "BOOM" or should I say "CHA-CHING"?!?!) :lol:
Good Luck & either way you're in a good position to be in!

While Taylor is having a great year, I think he will ultimately end up 4th in homers behind Dopriak, Strieby and Boesch in that order. So while his final numbers are certainly shaping up to be impressive, I sincerely doubt his shot at the EL triple crown this year.

For the OP's question, I think that if you can make a decent amount of money on the card, take it. The possibility of further value does exist, but when cards like this get up to their current prices, it's generally a good time to sell if you can make a decent profit. So basically, yes, his stuff COULD go higher, but that is NEVER a guarantee and you could really be kicking yourself later if you miss this sell opportunity. Taylor is a good player and a good prospect, but it is tough for ANY player to keep production up to the level at which he is performing right now.

 

[Invest4thefuture]

I'm always a big fan of selling when there's money to be made. Now that obviously doesn't mean taking a small $5 profit when obviously he has room for growth, but there's no need to get greedy if you would be happy with the return.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

I'd sell. If it were an Orange Refractor, then i'd hold.

 

[WJCIII]

As someone who has ended up stuck with a bunch of Delmon Young, Conor Jackson, etc. I'll never hold a player again if there is a significant profit to be made. The size of the profit is key. If you're going to make $10 then I'd hold, if you're going to make $50 or more I'd let it go. That has since saved me with guys like Maybin, Tabata, and Saltalamacchia.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

I've got to say hold (or sell to me)! I've got several of these pup's & I'm holding as I'm comparing Taylor's number's to past player's whom had card's like this that completely flew out of the stratosphere for s period of time (getting $125 for the EEE Status Auto/25 is not that big of deal, considering what past EEE #d/25 got from hot player's)! If he can keep up anything near his pace he should get AA Eastern Player of the Year & he has a shot right now to win the "Triple Crown" (as he is leading or very close to leading nearly every offensive category across the board).... I've followed his progress & play for quite some time & I'm of the opinion that Taylor will be one of the better All-Star caliber power hitter's (as imo from his performance, he'll be a 30+ HR guy with a .300+ avg....throw in 10-15 sb's for good measure & "BOOM" or should I say "CHA-CHING"?!?!) :lol:
Good Luck & either way you're in a good position to be in!

While Taylor is having a great year, I think he will ultimately end up 4th in homers behind Dopriak, Strieby and Boesch in that order. So while his final numbers are certainly shaping up to be impressive, I sincerely doubt his shot at the EL triple crown this year.

The kicker here is that he does have a shot (no one else stands close to it as he does, which was my point- that his production across the board is beyond anyother player in AA Eastern league).

For the OP's question, I think that if you can make a decent amount of money on the card, take it. The possibility of further value does exist, but when cards like this get up to their current prices, it's generally a good time to sell if you can make a decent profit. So basically, yes, his stuff COULD go higher, but that is NEVER a guarantee and you could really be kicking yourself later if you miss this sell opportunity. Taylor is a good player and a good prospect, but it is tough for ANY player to keep production up to the level at which he is performing right now.

This is very true about making a buck when you can, I was just giving my opinion on Taylor & what I plan on doing (I'm in hold mode, at least until they hit a certain projected price that I've got figured out as a prime time to move for the certain card's....other's I will hold for his big league performance as I have faith he will do very well)! People also tend to forget how they kick themselves when they knew they should have held on longer (as that also is a way of losing money, when you could have had more but settled for less) though I agree there is no certainty there will be more $$ in the future, but the game we play as prospector's is rooted with uncertainties so why let this deter/sway you from your gut or the set goal's you had when you began...if uncertainty is not for you then prospecting is most certainly not your cup o' tea!).

Taylor is a good player and a good prospect, but it is tough for ANY player to keep production up to the level at which he is performing right now

I know it is tough, but it is not like Taylor just all-of-a-sudden began performing like this at the beginning of this year (he's done this throughout his minor league career & has only gotten better/progressed with each level he has advanced to)! So it's not like we're dealing with a player who is having a breakout year, Taylor has been producing this type of power & high average and has shown a high level of outfield play (with a plus arm to boot....& after hearing some of the play's he's made this year I'd say on the verge of plus-plus arm/accuracy)...The bottom line with him is most people were skeptic's, writing him off as producing because he was ahead of the curve due to age, & now those people are taking notice of his play yet think he has just begun producing like this, when in reality he's been performing at this level for awhile now!

Anyhow, I guess what I'm trying to get at is: although we know there are no certainties, what do you monitor that tells you if a player could be good in the MLB? If it's not thier production (which Taylor obviously has & has had for sometime with an increase in percentage's at each level) then what do we look at to gauge thier future success??? I say this because if this were Heyward or Moustakas performing like this the key consensus would probably be to "hold" right now because they were destined to blow-up & be a superstar....so why can't Taylor? If you think about it for a bit you may realize alot boils down to "junk" (the junk called hype).... :lol:

 

[Quenepa22]

I've got to say hold (or sell to me)! I've got several of these pup's & I'm holding as I'm comparing Taylor's number's to past player's whom had card's like this that completely flew out of the stratosphere for s period of time (getting $125 for the EEE Status Auto/25 is not that big of deal, considering what past EEE #d/25 got from hot player's)! If he can keep up anything near his pace he should get AA Eastern Player of the Year & he has a shot right now to win the "Triple Crown" (as he is leading or very close to leading nearly every offensive category across the board).... I've followed his progress & play for quite some time & I'm of the opinion that Taylor will be one of the better All-Star caliber power hitter's (as imo from his performance, he'll be a 30+ HR guy with a .300+ avg....throw in 10-15 sb's for good measure & "BOOM" or should I say "CHA-CHING"?!?!) :lol:
Good Luck & either way you're in a good position to be in!

While Taylor is having a great year, I think he will ultimately end up 4th in homers behind Dopriak, Strieby and Boesch in that order. So while his final numbers are certainly shaping up to be impressive, I sincerely doubt his shot at the EL triple crown this year.

The kicker here is that he does have a shot (no one else stands close to it as he does, which was my point- that his production across the board is beyond anyother player in AA Eastern league).

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":1vzg4fpg]
For the OP's question, I think that if you can make a decent amount of money on the card, take it. The possibility of further value does exist, but when cards like this get up to their current prices, it's generally a good time to sell if you can make a decent profit. So basically, yes, his stuff COULD go higher, but that is NEVER a guarantee and you could really be kicking yourself later if you miss this sell opportunity. Taylor is a good player and a good prospect, but it is tough for ANY player to keep production up to the level at which he is performing right now.

This is very true about making a buck when you can, I was just giving my opinion on Taylor & what I plan on doing (I'm in hold mode, at least until they hit a certain projected price that I've got figured out as a prime time to move for the certain card's....other's I will hold for his big league performance as I have faith he will do very well)! People also tend to forget how they kick themselves when they knew they should have held on longer (as that also is a way of losing money, when you could have had more but settled for less) though I agree there is no certainty there will be more $$ in the future, but the game we play as prospector's is rooted with uncertainties so why let this deter/sway you from your gut or the set goal's you had when you began...if uncertainty is not for you then prospecting is most certainly not your cup o' tea!).

Taylor is a good player and a good prospect, but it is tough for ANY player to keep production up to the level at which he is performing right now

I know it is tough, but it is not like Taylor just all-of-a-sudden began performing like this at the beginning of this year (he's done this throughout his minor league career & has only gotten better/progressed with each level he has advanced to)! So it's not like we're dealing with a player who is having a breakout year, Taylor has been producing this type of power & high average and has shown a high level of outfield play (with a plus arm to boot....& after hearing some of the play's he's made this year I'd say on the verge of plus-plus arm/accuracy)...The bottom line with him is most people were skeptic's, writing him off as producing because he was ahead of the curve due to age, & now those people are taking notice of his play yet think he has just begun producing like this, when in reality he's been performing at this level for awhile now!

Anyhow, I guess what I'm trying to get at is: although we know there are no certainties, what do you monitor that tells you if a player could be good in the MLB? If it's not thier production (which Taylor obviously has & has had for sometime with an increase in percentage's at each level) then what do we look at to gauge thier future success??? I say this because if this were Heyward or Moustakas performing like this the key consensus would probably be to "hold" right now because they were destined to blow-up & be a superstar....so why can't Taylor? If you think about it for a bit you may realize alot boils down to "junk" (the junk called hype).... :lol: [/quote:1vzg4fpg]

^^^^What he said!!!^^^^

Really, though, I remember when the talk last year was him being a possible fluke in "low A" and the real test was better pitching in SAL league. Like it was said before, a lot of opinions were disregarding him as a legitimate prospect as he was too old and playing amongst younglings! There was even talk that everyone should have sold last year!

I agree on the thought that if you would be able to make a decent profit on you investment then a person would be wise to sell. If you are looking at making an astronomical profit then you might consider yourself a fool (if you lose) or a genius in the future. It is that choice that each person has to make!

I, for one am definitely holding...I think that he definitely has a strong chance to emerge as a future cornerstone/franchise player! He has a great work ethic, has developed a rare form of consistency to excel in different levels of the minors and he is a charismatic player and well-liked by fans and the "prospectors" !

Whatever you choose to do, Good Luck! And please remember, this is just 'my opinion!'

Ed

 

[jcmint]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

 

[ryanhoward06]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

I agree with this.

By the way, he did struggle his first year in low A. In fact he struggled mightily. Nobody can honestly say they bought in to him because they saw something in his numbers(prior to 2008). He did very little in college as well.

It was because he was a big black dude from the Phillies drafted later. If some one can say otherwise, I would love to hear it.

 

[jmc280zx]

It depends on what you have. If you have alot sell enough to make back all your $$ and then some. If you dont have much of him/into him hold.

I had 26 Blue refractors (among other 2007 stuff) and was told by MANY I was a fool for not selling last year. Over the last few months I have sold most of them (still have around 10 left) and have more then doubled what I had in them. I will probably sell a few more and then hold the rest.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

I agree with this.

By the way, he did struggle his first year in low A. In fact he struggled mightily. Nobody can honestly say they bought in to him because they saw something in his numbers(prior to 2008). He did very little in college as well.

It was because he was a big black dude from the Phillies drafted later. If some one can say otherwise, I would love to hear it.

Just because you didn't see anything in him doesn't mean other's didn't (which you are basically calling anyone a "liar" if they think differently than you did....remember it's not all about thier "number's", especially in the very early going's). It's odd that you would say that he was just average in college (a huge draw-in to Taylor in the very early-going's were having to look at his size, speed, & projectability, especially being that he hit for a solid .300+ average over his 3 year's at Stanford- .316 to be exact...This was & still is a huge factor to me for someone of his size to be able to hit for average, in which he has contined to do so, with the sheer size that he has I'll take early signs of a good hitter's eye & high average over power; as sooner or later with a player of his size & stature consistantly making solid contact with the ball, it can be expected that the power will inevitably come)!

Just to show a little proof of his college production, here's a bio/write-up from: http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-base ... 07aaa.html

"Taylor earned All-Pac-10 honors for the first time in his career as a junior in 2007 when he had career-bests in nearly every offensive category, including home runs (12), RBI (59), batting average (.335) and hits (78). He also added career-bests with 16 doubles, 136 total bases and a .584 slugging percentage, while equaling career-highs in triples (3) and on-base percentage (.395). Taylor paced the team in RBI and doubles, while co-leading the club in homers, at bats, total bases and slugging percentage. He finished his 2007 season on a tear with a career-high 12-game hit streak and had multiple-hit games in 16 of his last 19 contests with a .429 batting average, seven homers and 31 RBI during the 19-game stretch.

Taylor has put up solid numbers during his three seasons at Stanford with a career .316 batting average, 21 homers and 126 RBI. He has also added 124 runs scored, 217 hits, 45 doubles, eight triples, 341 total bases, 63 walks, 21 hit by pitches and 12 stolen bases to go with a .497 slugging percentage and a .385 on-base mark. Taylor has also been extremely durable during his collegiate career, playing in 174 of 176 possible games with 173 starts, including 140 in a row during one stretch that spanned all three of his Stanford seasons from 2005-07."

He might not have been a 1st Round prospect after Stanford, but IMO he showed the maturity, intelligence, size, & patience to have one helluva projectible future! Just my opinion (Oh & I can honestly say this)!

 

[phillyfan0417]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

I agree with this.

By the way, he did struggle his first year in low A. In fact he struggled mightily. Nobody can honestly say they bought in to him because they saw something in his numbers(prior to 2008). He did very little in college as well.

It was because he was a big black dude from the Phillies drafted later. If some one can say otherwise, I would love to hear it.

Ok, I'll throw in the fact he was a highly regarded hitter in college who happened to have a bad senior year, kind of like another philly we all know. Taylor had what the phillies called a case of "draftitis" and thought the tools were there. I know several folks who follow the phillies drafts much more than I do who thought he was the pick of the draft in the days following its completion.

Michael Taylor is an upper echelon prospect who is putting up better and better numbers as he moves up in competition. Although I still would buy Dominic Brown over Taylor, you cant argue with his results.

 

[rainmanesq]

depends. Are you a gambler? What’s your buy in cost? How high do you realistically think his cards can go? When do you realistically think his cards will go there? As for myself, I pulled his orange ref a few mos. ago after busting my bazillionth case of 07 bcdp. My buy in cost was essentially 0 as the other cards from the case (ex., heyward blue ref which became a bgs 10, mills red ref au, etc.) had long since paid for that case + already made me a NIIIICE profit. Slabbed the taylor, got a 9.5 + sold it + never looked back as the profit was insane. BTW, the last 2 orange refs of his have sold for ½ of what my 9.5 sold for, so I don’t regret selling @ all.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

I agree with this.

By the way, he did struggle his first year in low A. In fact he struggled mightily. Nobody can honestly say they bought in to him because they saw something in his numbers(prior to 2008). He did very little in college as well.

It was because he was a big black dude from the Phillies drafted later. If some one can say otherwise, I would love to hear it.

Ok, I'll throw in the fact he was a highly regarded hitter in college who happened to have a bad senior year, kind of like another philly we all know. Taylor had what the phillies called a case of "draftitis" and thought the tools were there. I know several folks who follow the phillies drafts much more than I do who thought he was the pick of the draft in the days following its completion.

Michael Taylor is an upper echelon prospect who is putting up better and better numbers as he moves up in competition.

Thank you for responding with the above stated info. as I forget to add in this point of Taylor getting pre-draft jitter's during his senior year & not producing to his potential (just for that I won't put a "smiley" in this post)!

 

[ryanhoward06]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

I agree with this.

By the way, he did struggle his first year in low A. In fact he struggled mightily. Nobody can honestly say they bought in to him because they saw something in his numbers(prior to 2008). He did very little in college as well.

It was because he was a big black dude from the Phillies drafted later. If some one can say otherwise, I would love to hear it.

Ok, I'll throw in the fact he was a highly regarded hitter in college who happened to have a bad senior year, kind of like another philly we all know. Taylor had what the phillies called a case of "draftitis" and thought the tools were there. I know several folks who follow the phillies drafts much more than I do who thought he was the pick of the draft in the days following its completion.

Michael Taylor is an upper echelon prospect who is putting up better and better numbers as he moves up in competition. Although I still would buy Dominic Brown over Taylor, you cant argue with his results.

I know all about the draftitis and like those picks by teams. I didn't follow the Phillies draft nearly as much as I have over the past couple of years back then. I admit that I was wrong on seeing his potential and the chance of reaching it.

I mainly just posted to get Dave riled up, since anything that is related to Taylor he has to post about to show how right he was. It worked.

And for anyone that thinks I hate on Taylor still, I have multiple cards of him, including a gold. I have met him twice now and he's a real nice guy.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

I agree with this.

By the way, he did struggle his first year in low A. In fact he struggled mightily. Nobody can honestly say they bought in to him because they saw something in his numbers(prior to 2008). He did very little in college as well.

It was because he was a big black dude from the Phillies drafted later. If some one can say otherwise, I would love to hear it.

Ok, I'll throw in the fact he was a highly regarded hitter in college who happened to have a bad senior year, kind of like another philly we all know. Taylor had what the phillies called a case of "draftitis" and thought the tools were there. I know several folks who follow the phillies drafts much more than I do who thought he was the pick of the draft in the days following its completion.

Michael Taylor is an upper echelon prospect who is putting up better and better numbers as he moves up in competition. Although I still would buy Dominic Brown over Taylor, you cant argue with his results.

I know all about the draftitis and like those picks by teams. I didn't follow the Phillies draft nearly as much as I have over the past couple of years back then. I admit that I was wrong on seeing his potential and the chance of reaching it.

I mainly just posted to get Dave riled up, since anything that is related to Taylor he has to post about to show how right he was. It worked.

And for anyone that thinks I hate on Taylor still, I have multiple cards of him, including a gold. I have met him twice now and he's a real nice guy.

I have a few taylors but nothing higher than a blue ref.

If you want to look at something interesting, compare the numbers between Taylor and Brown at Clearwater. Before he got hurt, Browns numbers are pretty close to those of taylor in the same amount of games. If anything, Brown is a more disciplined hitter and is two full years younger.

Like i've said before, the sky is the limit for Dominic Brown...

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

Please look past the Michael Taylor love fest here and take the sizeable profit.

I agree with this.

By the way, he did struggle his first year in low A. In fact he struggled mightily. Nobody can honestly say they bought in to him because they saw something in his numbers(prior to 2008). He did very little in college as well.

It was because he was a big black dude from the Phillies drafted later. If some one can say otherwise, I would love to hear it.

Ok, I'll throw in the fact he was a highly regarded hitter in college who happened to have a bad senior year, kind of like another philly we all know. Taylor had what the phillies called a case of "draftitis" and thought the tools were there. I know several folks who follow the phillies drafts much more than I do who thought he was the pick of the draft in the days following its completion.

Michael Taylor is an upper echelon prospect who is putting up better and better numbers as he moves up in competition. Although I still would buy Dominic Brown over Taylor, you cant argue with his results.

I know all about the draftitis and like those picks by teams. I didn't follow the Phillies draft nearly as much as I have over the past couple of years back then. I admit that I was wrong on seeing his potential and the chance of reaching it.

I mainly just posted to get Dave riled up, since anything that is related to Taylor he has to post about to show how right he was. It worked.

And for anyone that thinks I hate on Taylor still, I have multiple cards of him, including a gold. I have met him twice now and he's a real nice guy.

Hey bud, I'm not riled up I just try to deal in the facts (so of course I'm going to reply to your post to correct it, especially since you're bashing my PC prospect player)!